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aturnis 06-15-2014 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10693263)
This.

A 28 year old who has been nothing but great his entire career has one bad year, and people think he's washed up.

We have plenty of overpaid slapdicks we could have cut if it were only about money.
I don't think many people think he's washed up, just that he does not in any way for the scheme, and has become a liability deep.

milkman 06-15-2014 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10693565)
Once again though. He's had lingering issues the past 2 seasons and doesn't fit what Dorsey and Sutton want in a CB.
You're overplaying a bad season due to injury to justify your argument.

I get that Flowers doesn't really fit, and that his contract was overblown, but don't exagerarte his poor play due to injury for one season into he is a bad player.

aturnis 06-15-2014 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10693567)
The pass rush disappeared because of Houston's injury and Poe's fatigue.
Right, but Hali disappeared once Houston left the field.

I noted very early in the season that many of Hali's sacks were a case of him benefiting from the other side and the middle. He's definitely lost a step.

-King- 06-15-2014 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10693576)
You're overplaying a bad season due to injury to justify your argument.

I get that Flowers doesn't really fit, and that his contract was overblown, but don't exagerarte his poor play due to injury for one season into he is a bad player.
I'm not trying to make it seem like he is a bad player. He's an overpaid player past his prime, in a system he doesn't belong in and doesn't want to play in. Cutting him also makes space for our best pass rusher. So I don't consider it a big deal.

milkman 06-15-2014 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10693581)
I'm not trying to make it seem like he is a bad player. He's an overpaid player past his prime, in a system he doesn't belong in and doesn't want to play in. Cutting him also makes space for our best pass rusher. So I don't consider it a big deal.
We really aren't disagreeing.

RNR 06-15-2014 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10693581)
I'm not trying to make it seem like he is a bad player. He's an overpaid player past his prime, in a system he doesn't belong in and doesn't want to play in. Cutting him also makes space for our best pass rusher. So I don't consider it a big deal.
It's a tad early to declare him past his prime~

CoMoChief 06-15-2014 07:46 PM
Sure as hell hope our CB's step up and play....esp if Sean Smith gets suspended by the league. If not...it's gonna be a long season. Not necessarily saying Smith is a season saver, he has his own issues on the field as well...but in a matter of a week, we not only lost our (Pro Bowl) CB, but we may have lost our #2 as well for a considerable amount of time.

Cooper
Parker
Owens
Gaines
Commings/Abdullah

For a team that has to face Rivers and Manning twice a season, that list seems a bit concerning.

LoneWolf 06-15-2014 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 10693677)
Sure as hell hope our CB's step up and play....esp if Sean Smith gets suspended by the league. If not...it's gonna be a long season. Not necessarily saying Smith is a season saver, he has his own issues on the field as well...but in a matter of a week, we not only lost our (Pro Bowl) CB, but we may have lost our #2 as well for a considerable amount of time.

Cooper
Parker
Owens
Gaines
Commings/Abdullah

For a team that has to face Rivers and Manning twice a season, that list seems a bit concerning.
Why would you think Smith would get suspended for a considerable amount of time? I would think at most it would be 2 games.

Red Dawg 06-15-2014 08:20 PM
There is no way that losing Flowers is not a bad blow for this season. He is a vet and a tough competitor. We will hurt but if this gets Houston his money then it had to be done.

Kman34 06-15-2014 08:30 PM
My future son in law who is a big Broncos fan said he was going to bring me flowers for father's day,but said I would probably throw them away.
All I had to say is 43-8.
We had a peaceful Fathers Day.

ILChief 06-15-2014 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 10693741)
Why would you think Smith would get suspended for a considerable amount of time? I would think at most it would be 2 games.
Seriously, it was a DUI.

planetdoc 06-15-2014 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 10693919)
Seriously, it was a DUI.
I think first offense isnt even a suspension, but loss of game checks.

LoneWolf 06-15-2014 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by planetdoc (Post 10694003)
I think first offense isnt even a suspension, but loss of game checks.
That's what I'm thinking. I looked and could find no record of a player being suspended for their first DUI.

xztop123 06-15-2014 09:21 PM
Im hoping demarcus van dyke shows something and can make the 53

Mother****erJones 06-15-2014 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 10694112)
Im hoping demarcus van dyke shows something and can make the 53
You're going to be sadly disappointed


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