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Easy 6 09-29-2018 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13773318)
What likely happened last year was due to the pain of this bone spur, he overcompensated on the other leg and ruptured that Achilles.

And honestly, we shouldn’t be surprised if it happens again since they probably haven’t legitimately fixed anything.

The more we rehash the possibilities, the worse this seems

One can only deny the obvious for so long

www.lifeafterberry.com

htismaqe 09-29-2018 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13773582)
oh God - This thread. Jesus

Back on track!

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-King- 09-29-2018 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 13773571)
Anyone else think our medical staff just might be completely ****ing incompetent?

Why? What should they have done in this situation?
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htismaqe 09-29-2018 09:47 PM

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htismaqe 09-29-2018 09:48 PM

Downtown KC!!!

https://u2.photofunia.com/1/results/...DzvdQAfg_r.jpg

Simply Red 09-29-2018 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13773644)
Why? What should they have done in this situation?
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Removed the spur with a dremel and taped him up

Simply Red 09-29-2018 09:52 PM

that's hot htismaqe

Simply Red 09-29-2018 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13773610)


Thank you.

Warrick 09-29-2018 09:57 PM

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dvg5ahDJ7pA/maxresdefault.jpg

New World Order 09-29-2018 09:58 PM

"Thanks Jason, but I'd really like to be a Chief"

htismaqe 09-29-2018 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Warrick (Post 13773678)

Reported.

Warrick 09-29-2018 09:59 PM

LoL, nice one

htismaqe 09-29-2018 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Warrick (Post 13773683)
LoL, nice one

:)

Warrick 09-29-2018 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13773682)
Reported.

https://cdn-s3.si.com/s3fs-public/20...on-garrett.jpg

Sorry is this one better?

htismaqe 09-29-2018 10:02 PM

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New World Order 09-29-2018 10:08 PM

LMAO

booger 09-29-2018 10:10 PM

Just getting caught up on today’s Berry news. One thing I think people need to do is separate the 2. Berry his health and contract and a potential Thomas trade are two separate things. Meaning no they wouldn’t need to get Berry to agree to a settlement or contract restructuring before a potential trade. Healthy or not Berry’s contract is too new to renegotiate. They aren’t through the guaranteed years portion of it. Where they say xx amount guaranteed through the first 3 years etc. That contract isn’t getting touched. Even if he was ready to retire right now which is a stretch to say his agent wouldn’t just go along with him and say redo it. Much much worse would be the NFLPA the union would throw a fit. Go look at Shazeer (spell?) and Pittsburgh. He hasn’t yet renegotiated his deal has he? Lots of money involved. Players in that situation would leave too much money on the table. It’s not as simple as a contract restructuring to make cap space available for Thomas. Not with Berry. His contract isn’t optional for that and him being injured just complicates things. IF he is ready to hang it up and retire they will have to go through arbitration to satisfy precedent, his agent and how that makes him look to potential clients, Berry, NFLPA and last priority is fairness to KC in terms of how that affects future cap years. That’s not happening during the season a month before the trade deadline. That’s an off-season of arbitration that would take months rather than days.

Houston and him being excused from practice the other day and the educated guess that it could be to renegotiate to make room for Thomas cap # that’s actually a legit possibility imo. Very strong chance if they are actually exploring making it work. Big thing to watch is does Thomas play tomorrow or do they in activate him? That’s big too. Why play him when a ankle sprain or whatever could ruin a potential trade if it’s close?

booger 09-29-2018 10:16 PM

Also NFI list doesn’t erase the players cap# or credit it back to the team. The only deal with NFI is whether they play a player when they are on that list. So that’s the actual cash that’s affected not cap space

htismaqe 09-29-2018 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by booger (Post 13773696)
Berry his health and contract and a potential Thomas trade are two separate things.

yep

Mother****erJones 09-29-2018 11:03 PM

Cowherd on his show early on Friday said Seattle is going to lose Earl Thomas to KC reportedly. Where’s he getting that?

New World Order 09-29-2018 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13773725)
Cowherd on his show early on said Seattle is going to lose Earl Thomas to KC reportedly. Where’s he getting that?

https://www.hanselman.com/blog/conte...ekfreakout.gif

Simply Red 09-29-2018 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13773725)
Cowherd on his show early on said Seattle is going to lose Earl Thomas to KC reportedly. Where’s he getting that?

he has a show on Saturday?

Mother****erJones 09-29-2018 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13773728)
he has a show on Saturday?

Sorry forgot to add on Friday. Don’t know why I did that lol

Simply Red 09-29-2018 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13773729)
Sorry forgot to add on Friday. Don’t know why I did that lol

No problem, he didn't EXACTLY say it that black/white - but yeah - something to that effect.

ChiefsFanatic 09-29-2018 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13773215)
I'm not confident this staff can even identify an elite pass rusher. They thought Speaks was a pass rusher. The only way they draft one is if one literally drops into their lap.

I was talking with someone today, and we were discussing the differences between the talent we identified and acquired on offense, versus the talent we identified and acquired on defense.

I know that Dorsey was also involved, as well as Veach, but it just seems like overall the percentage of offensive players who actually pan out and contribute is much higher on the offensive side of the ball. Of course, the defense has Sutton, so they already have a disadvantage. Anyone who has Houston in coverage almost 30% of his snaps does not seem to understand how to put players in a position to succeed.

Do you think Reid cannot recognize defensive talent, or do you think he doesn't even try because he only thinks about offense, and leaves defensive decisions to others?

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Chiefs Pantalones 09-29-2018 11:27 PM

Paylor said each week that goes by his salary gets cheaper. It goes down to $5.5 million I think by the week of the deadline. Expect for him to be dealt then.

Mother****erJones 09-29-2018 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13773730)
No problem, he didn't EXACTLY say it that black/white - but yeah - something to that effect.

Yes he did. Wasn’t during the Jason McIntyre interview. It was at the 18 min mark of the podcast of his show Friday

Simply Red 09-29-2018 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13773736)
Yes he did. Wasn’t during the Jason McIntyre interview. It was at the 18 min mark of the podcast of his show Friday

oh okay - I hadn't heard that - is there a copy online anywhere? I was thinking you'd meant that other one.

Simply Red 09-29-2018 11:46 PM

never mind mother ****er - I found it (good sighting) but he said verbatim 'they're going to lose Earl Thomas to the Chiefs reportedly' - very interesting.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-29-2018 11:59 PM

So there's still hope ?

Simply Red 09-30-2018 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 13773749)
So there's still hope ?

Sure. I think so.

BossChief 09-30-2018 12:10 AM

If Cowherd said it, it’s going down.

Imon Yourside 09-30-2018 12:33 AM

Let it be known CP put this thing over the top when it comes down :)

Simply Red 09-30-2018 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13773753)
If Cowherd said it, it’s going down.

around 18 mins - you may have to install a flash or plug-in or something

https://content.production.cdn.art19...NO%20MUSIC.mp3

Simply Red 09-30-2018 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 13773758)
Let it be know CP put this thing over the top when it comes down :)


I know you're halfway joking - but I think this place has more power than any of us truly know. We're like a force from the fans.

Simply Red 09-30-2018 12:36 AM

we're like talking to people out on the streets of KC. Arrowhead Pride and Addict are a couple of fans in air-conditioning drinking Arnold Palmers...

Imon Yourside 09-30-2018 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13773761)
I know you're halfway joking - but I think this place has more power than any of us truly know. We're like a force from the fans.

I do joke around a bit but i'm serious on this one, had we not been all over ET's nuts he wouldn't have felt the love.

Chiefs Pantalones 09-30-2018 12:51 AM

I don’t think Cowherd knows anything he’s assuming he’s going to be traded to the Chiefs while talking about teams in disarray.

JakeF 09-30-2018 01:43 AM

Wow, how are we going to trade for Thomas and afford the new contract that goes with it. I doubt that Seattle would trade him on a discount because he only has one year left.

Simply Red 09-30-2018 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 13773777)
Wow, how are we going to trade for Thomas and afford the new contract that goes with it. I doubt that Seattle would trade him on a discount because he only has one year left.

Because you don't worry about that right now - you go get that Superbowl - may i recommend you go play with the cap calculator that is available online - people really don't know just how doable this is - however we're not going to be able to keep EVERYone - in say 3 yrs. from now - it's not going to happen - that's the case already, even if we don't sign Earl. This is a sense of urgency, we need to bring the trophy home - and NOW is the best opportunity for that.

Chargem 09-30-2018 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 13773777)
Wow, how are we going to trade for Thomas and afford the new contract that goes with it. I doubt that Seattle would trade him on a discount because he only has one year left.

His current contract for this year fits into the Chiefs remaining cap space.

Next year, the Chiefs have $50m cap space. After extensions and re-signing role players, there will be 20-35m available for new free agents, I think ET fits fine in that.

I still hope they actually just pick up ET in free agency next year.

Simply Red 09-30-2018 02:01 AM

here you guys go

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/kansas-city-chiefs

BlackOp 09-30-2018 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13773780)

Anthony Sherman makes almost 2 1/2 time the amount of Hill...ROFL

Dont worry..If KC has to cut Berry..it's only $27 million against the cap....*Chunt*

PHOG 09-30-2018 07:10 AM

Is ET in town yet?

loochy 09-30-2018 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 13773839)
Is ET in town yet?

Yes. But he wants to phone home.

CupidStunt 09-30-2018 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 13773735)
Paylor said each week that goes by his salary gets cheaper. It goes down to $5.5 million I think by the week of the deadline. Expect for him to be dealt then.

I'm quite certain $ is irrelevant. Despite what some idiots think, Clark Hunt has proven to be an owner who will spend whatever it takes to get it done. And I'm sure we'd want as many games w/ ET as possible. It seems infinitely more likely that we're haggling over the price given all the numerous reports of the Seahawks' demands. What we really need is SEA to lose. Unfortunately until the deadline they have too many easy games, so it's likely to drag on another few weeks at least.

Sassy Squatch 09-30-2018 07:37 AM

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Pasta Little Brioni 09-30-2018 07:40 AM

That has a better chance of happening than ET to KC..

O.city 09-30-2018 08:00 AM

No talk about this on any pregame show that I’ve seen yet


Dream is dead

The Franchise 09-30-2018 08:06 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One issue we’ll discuss later on <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLGameDay?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NFLGameDay</a>: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Seahawks?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Seahawks</a> fined star S Earl Thomas last week for missing practices and other things, sources say. The communication should increase going forward.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1046392908507738112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 30, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

O.city 09-30-2018 08:07 AM

What’s that mean?

-King- 09-30-2018 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13773878)
No talk about this on any pregame show that I’ve seen yet


Dream is dead

As long as he still wants out (and he does) the dream is still alive. Seattle isn't just going to let him walk for nothing and I'm assuming they'd rather send him to an afc team than an nfc team.

It really all comes down to Veach.
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KChiefs1 09-30-2018 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13773878)
No talk about this on any pregame show that I’ve seen yet


Dream is dead



I'm trying to watch all of them & nothing.

KChiefs1 09-30-2018 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13773885)
What’s that mean?



Need to watch NFLN I guess.

displacedinMN 09-30-2018 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13773890)
I'm trying to watch all of them & nothing.

ugh. my head would explode

Sassy Squatch 09-30-2018 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13773885)
What’s that mean?

Nothing.

Pasta Little Brioni 09-30-2018 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13773905)
Nothing.

Yup

Sassy Squatch 09-30-2018 08:32 AM

La Canforna

Eagles, and others, have interest in Bell; Steelers would be open to a Bell for Earl Thomas swap:

O.city 09-30-2018 08:37 AM

Didn’t Seattle just take a rb in round 1?

pugsnotdrugs19 09-30-2018 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13773913)
Didn’t Seattle just take a rb in round 1?

Yeah. Highly doubt they want to pay Bell a premium price either

Coochie liquor 09-30-2018 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13773907)
La Canforna

Eagles, and others, have interest in Bell; Steelers would be open to a Bell for Earl Thomas swap:

Please no

Sassy Squatch 09-30-2018 08:40 AM

Just shows that the Steelers do indeed have interest in Thomas.

Mother****erJones 09-30-2018 08:40 AM

Schefter on his Earl Thomas segment said KC is the favorite because of the 2 2s. Asking price is a 2nd right now

O.city 09-30-2018 08:42 AM

Get it done

Sassy Squatch 09-30-2018 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13773921)
Schefter on his Earl Thomas segment said KC is the favorite because of the 2 2s. Asking price is a 2nd right now

A second? What the ****, Veach.

Mother****erJones 09-30-2018 08:42 AM

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...on-earl-thomas

Pasta Little Brioni 09-30-2018 08:43 AM

If it really was a 2nd, you smile and say done

Sassy Squatch 09-30-2018 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13773926)

It is an asking price the Seahawks are "stuck" on, according to a source.

The Chiefs were unwilling to meet that price but would be interested if the Seahawks were to lower their demands.

VEACH. WHAT THE ****, MAN?

Sure-Oz 09-30-2018 08:45 AM

@JasonLaCanfora: Eagles, and others, have interest in Bell; Steelers would be open to a Bell for Earl Thomas swap: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/e...r-earl-thomas/

O.city 09-30-2018 08:46 AM

Yeah if it’s a second and they don’t do it that’s dumb

carcosa 09-30-2018 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13773921)
Schefter on his Earl Thomas segment said KC is the favorite because of the 2 2s. Asking price is a 2nd right now

Yassss

O.city 09-30-2018 08:48 AM

Please don’t let him go to pitt

Mother****erJones 09-30-2018 08:48 AM

This should’ve been done man

carcosa 09-30-2018 08:49 AM

If Brett Veach doesn't pull the trigger on ONE GOD DAMN SECOND ROUNDER for EARL GOD DAMN THOMAS I will personally BURN HIS HOUSE DOWN

The Franchise 09-30-2018 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13773921)
Schefter on his Earl Thomas segment said KC is the favorite because of the 2 2s. Asking price is a 2nd right now

That’s it? Get this ****ing done!

Mecca 09-30-2018 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13773929)
It is an asking price the Seahawks are "stuck" on, according to a source.

The Chiefs were unwilling to meet that price but would be interested if the Seahawks were to lower their demands.

VEACH. WHAT THE ****, MAN?

Veach is completely stuck on that he can't move one of his higher picks for a player because if he does then he has less capitol to make picks and if he has 2 bad drafts in a row people are going to think he sucks as a GM.

Sassy Squatch 09-30-2018 08:52 AM

Yeah, Veach deserves a punch in the mouth if another team leapfrogs him with a 2nd. Only reason not is if Thomas is demanding a ridiculous contract

O.city 09-30-2018 08:53 AM

If you win people don’t care about bad drafts

-King- 09-30-2018 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13773921)
Schefter on his Earl Thomas segment said KC is the favorite because of the 2 2s. Asking price is a 2nd right now

Like I said, it's all up to Veach. Its only a matter of making a phone call.
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pugsnotdrugs19 09-30-2018 08:54 AM

If Veach doesn’t get ET because he’s worried about losing a late 2nd round pick, I’ll be pretty ****ing pissed.


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