Whatever we do, we are not waiting. The plan is to win the Superbowl this year and the next.

Dont' know til they ask.

I'd call the Saints about Armstead. I'd call the Falcons about Matthews. See what you can drum up.

Where do you rate swing tackle in terms of importance for the year? Because that guy you're drafting in round 2 or 3 to develop for a year would at worst slot into that role (or may just reserve LT if they bring back Remmers for depth).

Not counting the last couple of years (because there isn't a large enough sample size yet), 2016 through 2018 was pretty good for tackles.

But then you have 2015, where the top 3 tackles are all guards now and one of them has bounced between 3 different teams.

2014's #2 overall pick has been with 4 different teams and can't stick anywhere.

Then you have 2013 where the #2 overall pick is out of the league and the #11 overall pick has bounced between 4 different teams.

In other words, there were little to no big misses between 2016 and 2018. But from 2013 to 2016 there was only ONE good tackle in the entire bunch.

Yeah I get that and Veach is probably doing that but lets say they either say no or ask for way to much?

Given the options that we KNOW are out there, I think this may be the best one. Thats all Im saying.

I'm perfectly fine with Reiff. He's not going to be that much of a downgrade from Fish. We also save draft capital that way.

Not very high. I'd sign some vet like Remmers and use that draft pick on a weapon or a DL or something.

I'm all about shaping up the OL, but there's a whole other side of the ball too.

The Ravens have confirmed they want a top 40 pick.

Brown reportedly wants to be a LT and wants to be paid like one.

How is that even an option, let alone the best one?

Brown's not a good fit, would require draft capital, likely a new contract, AND The Ravens would almost certainly not trade him to the team they consider their kryptonite and biggest rival. This last bit is enough by itself to rule out Brown, in all honesty. Ravens just flat wouldn't do that even if we wanted to.

Tunsil will be too much in draft resources.

Dillard is a possibility if Veach likes him, and he won't cost more than a #31. He was a #22 pick, had a rough rookie year at RT and missed year two with a torn bicep. He might cost you #63, and I think that's a reasonable risk IF Veach likes him. He's had a couple of years of NFL coaching and conditioning at least.

More likely I think is a Reiff/Okung type on a short deal and a Radunz/Little type draftee.

Your short term is covered, you're working towards the future, and you haven't screwed your cap so you can still look to fill other weak spots.

I'd say that speaks to the fact teams have gotten better at figuring out who's worth picking up there though.

Every position will have busts and guys that don't pan out. But my odds are higher they don't the higher I pick and I value LT as the 2nd most important position so I'm gonna increase my odds best I can.

Now maybe there isn't one they think is worth going up for. Thats fine. But at some point, they're gonna have to invest some resources there (they tried with Williams, I doubt they stop) because it's just too important.

The smart move is probably to go with as many "good" players as you can and see what sticks instead of risking the biscuit on an elite player though.

But I'm just an idiot dentist on a football message board, smart moves don't register with me.

How is trading multiple 1st's for one guy increased odds over keeping your 1st's and trying again next year?

Well we want him to be a LT. If you are a LT you want to be paid like one.
We can offer pick 31, in the top 40, yes?

He played LT last year and from what I can tell performed quite well. Thats already ahead of any LT we could take at 31. He is young and worth a late first rounder.

I guess I dont get the hate for this guy?

Yeah, I get it. In that case I think you just roll with Reiff (give him 2 years, maybe 3 if necessary) or Villanueva and work on a different long-term solution next offseason.

This T draft is SO deep, though. It's deep enough that guys like Little and Hudson look like round 3 guys (going off the mock draft database consensus big board). It would be hard to pass up the opportunity to get real value much later than normal. Especially since it's a long-term need.

I can spend 2 1's and get a blue chip prospect higher in the draft than sitting at the end of the first round and taking a developmental guy.

Show me where the Ravens offense matches up with what the Chiefs do.

Veach is swinging for the fences. Going up and taking BFA

I'm not opposed. But they just did that last year. I dunno that either of those guys really parlay out to a LT.

We coudl get lucky and it pans out and we're golden.

But based on history, LT's come from the top of the 1st.

Brown went in the 3rd round, c'mon Bart Vatch, let's go!

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...B/BrowOr00.htm

Kyle Long visiting today

And you're still taking a chance that he doesn't pan out, with no backup plan to boot. You're all in at that point and if it fails, no Super Bowl.

Im not convinced about the scheme being a bad fit. He performed well in the scheme he was in and we dont really know that he couldnt perform in another type scheme unless we see it.
Ravens probably would prefer to NOT trade with us but if we have the best offer than maybe. We have seen inter division trades recently its not like it used to be.

If we could get Dillard for 63 and as you say Veach likes him, I would love to see that. I would probably put that ahead of Brown.

I just dont think ruling Brown out is a good idea. In fact I would strongly consider it.

In non offensive line news.....


That WR market is shit right now. I hope Veach is out there getting ready to snag one.

The thing is, will the Ravens consider it, considering the Chiefs are their main nemesis in the AFC?

It's a non-starter if you think about it that way.

It doesn't. If thats your criteria for acquiring a LT, good luck.

They'll probably bring back Watkins.

I’ll ****ing kill you.

LMAO You know it's true, though.

Thats a strong possibility. On the other hand they have a guy that is NOT happy and wants to be a LT. They cant offer that to him. The closer the draft gets, having another first round pick just might be enough to sway them...

I swear to God, if you don’t shut the **** up. :D

Gimme Golladay

If his market is really low, I'd go for JuJu. As a 2nd weapon he's ****ing monstrous.

Juju or Samuel

The guy excels in the short field. He'd be really good in this offense opposite Hill.

Just comes down to the money.

Man if he'd just stop his dumbass tiktok bullshit, he'd be perfect...

Yes! Samuel would probably be cheaper and then we can spend the money saved on a TE #2 like Jared Cook.

Given the market right now, the money might be easy...

Doubt he’s dancing on any logos after this last season.

If we’re going strictly off of one year deals?

1. Juju
2. Samuel
3. Golladay

I agree. I don’t like his immature antics, but he’s a baller. If we could get him cheap, I’m all for it.

I wonder if the Kyle Long visit is due to hesitancy with LDT? But then we have Wylie who Andy is comfortable with.

Are we sure Thuney isn’t playing C bc apparently he’s more than capable

We didn’t just pay $16 million per season to a center.

Long would be RG if I had to guess. It’s not like we don’t need depth and if he can beat out LDT....even better.

Give me Golladay. I wanted Marvin Jones for the same reasons. He's a bigger bodied possession WR who is elite at making contested catches. We need a threat at WR in the RZ & we need a guy Pat can throw it up to when everyone is covered. Pat's never had that at WR here.

What about Kelvin Benjamin? ROFL

He'd make a fine LT

looked like Tarzan, played like Jane.

ROFL

I think that regardless of LDT's return, the right guard position is in flux.

While LDT says he's been working out for the past year, the Chiefs have no idea what kind of shape he'll be in once he returns to the team. If he decides at the last minute that he'd rather be a doctor than an NFL right guard, the Chiefs have a gaping hole at the position.

The Chiefs have 8 selections in the upcoming draft at this point so it wouldn't be surprising to see them take a developmental guard late that could start in 2022, so having a guy like Kyle Long around as a backup wouldn't be a bad thing, especially if their options come down to Wylie or Long in 2021.

Yeah, I'm not sure I'd count to much on LDT

Why? Where the **** would he even fit in? Can he play RG in case LDT comes back rusty as a mother****er?

Dane just answered that question for you. ;)

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Come on down, Juju.

FYP

Either one but I think Juju might be open to a one year deal more than Samuel. JMO though.

Yeah, I had kind of mentally written off Samuel because he seemed bound for the Jaguars but I'd gladly take him over JuJu unless for some reason their price points are similar.

Well guess they better go weapons because this OL isn't getting any better.

Yep. Season starts tomorrow. We’re ****ed.

The problem is we're now in a spot where we are at best similar to last year's line.

Dumb ass

****ing what? This is a pretty stupid take.

The LG is better it's going to be difficult to do better than wash at OT.

Which was fine until we got to the SB and had backups playing out of position everywhere.

This OL will be fine if it’s healthy. Reiff and Villanueva are pretty close to the same as Fisher. Not much difference there

Eh

I'd take Niang over injured Schwartz, reeruniff over Wylie, Thuney over Allegretti and our LT spot could be just a lateral move if they get Rieff.

I think it will be a solid offensive line. Better than last year.

In the immediate future, sure. But they can also draft a developmental tackle and be set beyond 2021.

We had an all pro lineman on the line last year?

How is that stupid? It's pretty accurate. In fact, the OL seems worse now than it was this time last season. :shrug:

LT - ?
LG - Thuney
C - ?
RG - LDT (who knows what kind of shape he's in?)
RT - ?

They're similar sort of, Villanueva is declining though, he doesn't have a ton left.

Free agency officially starts in 2 minutes. I mean, it's a little early for this isn't it?

No, but he can't do it alone, and right now, he's the only proven commodity, where last year we had several proven guys at this time. Just have to wait and see how it plays out.

LDT has never been awesome and has injury issues so counting on him to be a top performer would concern me.

Kyle Long is visiting today. Has an injury history but was also a 2-time pro bowler.

They're not done, not by a long shot. Free agency just started.

Exactly. That's one of the reasons why I agreed with your take on the OL.

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Yep. Just getting my PANIC mode on. :eek:

Plenty for a receiving weapon and a stopgap LT

Imagine thinking the Chiefs are remotely done fixing the OL

LMAO