Originally Posted by Rigodan (Post 5519599)

I posted this in another thread earlier this year:

There are a lot of really good teams that don't win a Superbowl every year. Look at the Pats last year. Possibly one of the greatest teams of all time and they lost. Look at the Steelers and Giants when they won and the Cardinals this year. Crazy stuff happens in the playoffs. For the Chiefs to win the Superbowl they're probably going to need more than one shot at it with a really good team because of the nature of the playoffs. Teams that are consistently in playoffs with good teams every year have one thing in common. They have great quaterbacks. Patriots/Brady, Colts/Manning, Steelers/Roethlisberger, Chargers/Brees/Rivers, earlier in the deacade you had Eagles/McNabb(before he couldn't decide whether to care or not).

You can also look at the great defenses this decade that didn't have franchise qbs. Baltimore and tampa bay for example. From 2003 to 2007 they finished in the top 6 in total defense every year except for Tampa Bay in 2006. Without a good quarterback those great defenses had a regular season record of 79-81, made the playoffs 4 out of 10 times and won ZERO playoff games. To repeat those defenses finished in the top 6 nine out of ten years and won 0 playoff games.

Sure we could build the defense, hope to get a qb later, and pray to god that everything falls into place like it did for Trent Dilfer. Sure it could happen, but its not likely.

Originally Posted by Rigodan (Post 5519599)

I posted this in another thread earlier this year:

There are a lot of really good teams that don't win a Superbowl every year. Look at the Pats last year. Possibly one of the greatest teams of all time and they lost. Look at the Steelers and Giants when they won and the Cardinals this year. Crazy stuff happens in the playoffs. For the Chiefs to win the Superbowl they're probably going to need more than one shot at it with a really good team because of the nature of the playoffs. Teams that are consistently in playoffs with good teams every year have one thing in common. They have great quaterbacks. Patriots/Brady, Colts/Manning, Steelers/Roethlisberger, Chargers/Brees/Rivers, earlier in the deacade you had Eagles/McNabb(before he couldn't decide whether to care or not).

You can also look at the great defenses this decade that didn't have franchise qbs. Baltimore and tampa bay for example. From 2003 to 2007 they finished in the top 6 in total defense every year except for Tampa Bay in 2006. Without a good quarterback those great defenses had a regular season record of 79-81, made the playoffs 4 out of 10 times and won ZERO playoff games. To repeat those defenses finished in the top 6 nine out of ten years and won 0 playoff games.

Sure we could build the defense, hope to get a qb later, and pray to god that everything falls into place like it did for Trent Dilfer. Sure it could happen, but its not likely.

Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 5519604)

Excellent post.

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5519598)

You can gurantee 100% fact that you know Stafford and Sanchez will end up like Dilfer or Collins? You have that much knowledge of the game to prove to everyone you can forsee the future with these two QB's?

Originally Posted by baitism (Post 5519612)

I think you need to go back a few pages and read the context of what was being said, then you will understand why I said that.

Sanchez could not even stay healthy behind a superb offensive line at USC. He would get slaughtered behind the Chief's OL.....

Originally Posted by baitism (Post 5519612)

I think you need to go back a few pages and read the context of what was being said, then you will understand why I said that.

Sanchez could not even stay healthy behind a superb offensive line at USC. He would get slaughtered behind the Chief's OL.....

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5519617)

What games did he miss last year because of injury?

Originally Posted by baitism (Post 5519618)

Did you watch any USC football. He hobbled around half the damn year with a knee brace on.

For the record, I would really like to draft a qb, im not even arguing that. I just think we should trade down to draft one. I would rather get two first round picks and get a QB than one....

Originally Posted by Crush (Post 5519562)

Picking the "safest" choice has done nothing this team in the last twenty years.

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5519620)

I watched plenty actually, I enjoy watching Carrols teams... But I must of missed where he hobbled around while he showed great mobility and pocket presence...

Originally Posted by soundmind (Post 5519248)

Zombie - for the love of god, come to terms with the idea that we're drafting a QB, unless the sky falls and they acquire Cassel. It's THE logical decision given this year's draft class, the current roster and the kind of compensation demanded of a top 5 selection.

ALL - don't Detroit's activities weigh pretty heavily on us in this? Think about it, if they acquire Cassel, they're likely to draft Curry or an OT...meaning they'd leave us "pick of the litter" which really fires up the Leak/Manning, er Stafford/Sanchez debate....if they don't get Cassel as some have presumed, they're likely to pull the trigger on anyone, QB-OT-OLB-hell it's Detroit-WR...

Who's the consensus #1 this year if there is one? And what do you see Detroit doing?

*all to be prefaced by STL taking an OT to relieve Pace. I'd suggest Raji or QB here, but they just have too much in Bulger, and their OL is strugglin.

Originally Posted by baitism (Post 5519625)

... Suffered a dislocated left knee cap prior to the season opener and his mobility was limited.

Right off nfl.com

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/...e-tab-analysis

Originally Posted by Rigodan (Post 5519599)

I posted this in another thread earlier this year:

There are a lot of really good teams that don't win a Superbowl every year. Look at the Pats last year. Possibly one of the greatest teams of all time and they lost. Look at the Steelers and Giants when they won and the Cardinals this year. Crazy stuff happens in the playoffs. For the Chiefs to win the Superbowl they're probably going to need more than one shot at it with a really good team because of the nature of the playoffs. Teams that are consistently in playoffs with good teams every year have one thing in common. They have great quaterbacks. Patriots/Brady, Colts/Manning, Steelers/Roethlisberger, Chargers/Brees/Rivers, earlier in the deacade you had Eagles/McNabb(before he couldn't decide whether to care or not).

You can also look at the great defenses this decade that didn't have franchise qbs. Baltimore and tampa bay for example. From 2003 to 2007 they finished in the top 6 in total defense every year except for Tampa Bay in 2006. Without a good quarterback those great defenses had a regular season record of 79-81, made the playoffs 4 out of 10 times and won ZERO playoff games. To repeat those defenses finished in the top 6 nine out of ten years and won 0 playoff games.

Sure we could build the defense, hope to get a qb later, and pray to god that everything falls into place like it did for Trent Dilfer. Sure it could happen, but its not likely.