Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6714583)

The people who have been questioning this teams personnel decisions the last several years are wrong? 10 wins in 3 seasons and those griping are the ones not in touch with reality?

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 6713728)

I just don't see it, personally. I mean 67% is way too high to be realistic IMO. Also 'constantly' I guess is subjective...but I see him as more of a situational player. 3rd downs, maybe some second & longs, and as a slot receiver...I just dont see it adding up to a 36th overall this season for this team...

I really hope I am wrong though. (I hope he has enough talent and durability to do more).

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6714602)

Hell, I'll give you an out.

Start a poll asking if I'm one of the more knowledgeable posters on the forum. Or if my takes are respected.

Then you have nothing to do with it, other than leaving when you're proven wrong.

You made the claim, coward. Back it up.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6714578)

Does every team in the league NEED a OLB?

He fell approximately 10 spots. Did he fit the needs of any of those teams?

Do any of those teams even play a 34?

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6714615)

No one is suggesting that the Chiefs are a playoff team in 2011, let alone, 2010.

This team has a long, long way to go before they're consistently competing in the playoffs, regardless of whether or not Pioli's the GM or not.

Originally Posted by CosmicPal (Post 6714635)

Let's put it this way: Had the Chiefs drafted Sergio Kindle in the 2nd round, this board, particularly YOU, Mecca, and Hamas would all be crying foul because Kindle is a serious injury risk- an injury that PALES in comparison to Moecki's minor injuries.

The fact is, had we drafted him you guys would be dissing the pick because you're NEVER, EVER content with anything the front office and coaching staff do. You guys just *****ing whine like a teenage girl with a bad haircut. It's the same shit with you guys every year. It gets ****ing old.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6714651)

Funny, I specifically recall you being in the group of people that expected a playoff caliber team by the 3rd year.

That group generally was expecting 4-12, 8-8, then a playoff run.

If you're backing down from that, fine. But make sure you explain why you're doing so.

My guess is because Scott Pioli hasn't done his job to the level he was expected.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6712572)

I think I have this whole thing figured out.

I had no idea what Pioli was doing last year. He drafted guys for the 3-4 and brought in 40 players off the street that were mostly familiar with the "system", their way of doing things. I didn't agree with it, but I'm beginning to understand their philosophy.

First and foremost, they're looking for leaders, smart instinctive football players and guys that will be at the core of this team for a decade. Guys that will be willing to take a little less when free agency comes around, just to be part of the "system" that will be in place. I think this draft solidifies this notion.

I also believe that Pioli knows he can't find playmakers in free agency, so he drafted playmakers this year. Berry, McClusters, Arenas and Moeaki all have the potential to be explosive, game changing playmakers. Asamoah could be a 10 year starter, maybe longer. Lewis plays much faster on film than his 40 time indicates because he's got natural football instincts, same with Sheffield.

I think the Chiefs passed on fat**** Cody and broke Kindle (along with a few other defensive players) because they honestly believe that Jackson, Magee, Dorsey, Mays, Belcher and Studebaker make a big leap from year one in their defense to year two. Personally, I don't disagree.

I also think that it will be much easier for them to grab an NT and a few linebackers at cutdown than for them to find a dynamic WR/RB, CB/Returner and a TE in the mold of Dallas Clark.

What's become extremely clear is that Pioli has five full years in which to build this franchise in his image and that he's under no pressure to win now. With that being the case, he's going to build it exactly as he sees fit, regardless of what anyone else thinks or believes.

Only time will tell if he's successful or not, but I for one am in no way, shape or form, disappointed with this draft because he got playmakers and instinctual, productive football players that will help this team for a long time.

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon (Post 6714632)

are you not getting the point?

Seriously...

are you stupid?

IT IS A POPULARITY CONTEST...THAT'S ALL IT WOULD BE...

Is that so tough to understand?

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6714602)

Hell, I'll give you an out.

Start a poll asking if I'm one of the more knowledgeable posters on the forum. Or if my takes are respected.

Then you have nothing to do with it, other than leaving when you're proven wrong.

You made the claim, coward. Back it up.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6714655)

Is that why I named 8-10 guys worthy of that spot? Kindle being one of them?

I expect this shit from Hootie, but you're better than this.

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon (Post 6714597)

ROFL

Oh, ok.

Damnit!

What a shitty draft we had! Only columnists like our draft...****! If only we hired Mecca/OTWP and Hamas Jenkins to do our drafts for us!

Originally Posted by tonyetony (Post 6714664)

If you're trying to tie your self worth to the few posters that actually like you on this board you are PATHETIC. I think you've become a better poster the last 6 months but please don't overrate yourself it could be embarrassing for you.

Go ahead and start the poll and if you lose will you actually leave this time?

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 6714613)

I understand where OTW is coming from on this. But, these were special talents with good character. The only other guys left were either guys with question marks or average good character kids.

While these may look like luxury picks... they are guys that are special. Not just bodies to fill the roster and guys that make an impact as soon as they get on the field.

I think the Chiefs played the draft perfectly.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6714659)

So now it's a popularity contest when you have nothing to do with it?

I'm in a popularity contest with myself.

You're ****ing pathetic.

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 6714616)

That goes both ways. The drafturbaters here shout down and insult anyone that dares disagree with them.