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OnTheWarpath15 06-23-2015 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 11562936)
A dull knife, with a very short blade that over 50% of the fan base thinks will turn into Excalibur magically in year 10 or 11.
LMAO

RunKC 06-23-2015 03:28 PM
It's going to be really interesting to see what Seattle does in the draft next year.

They WILL lose Okung. They will lose Mebane. They will lose Irvin. I bet they might be able to keep Wagner.

They've already lost their LG and C and are replacing them with average at best players. JR Sweezy and projected starting G Alvin Bailey are both FA's too. At least one will be gone.
Nickel CB's Burley and Lane are both FA's.
Jermaine Kearse and Ricardo Lockette both FA's.

The Seahawks are About to go through what he Ravens went through in 2013 after Flacco got paid. Massive turnover is coming.
They've already downgraded at LG, C and CB opposite of Sherman.


Better hope Schneider's drafts will keep producing good players.

BigMeatballDave 06-23-2015 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11562935)

It's irrelevant because Seattle would never give up Wilson for two first rounders, anyway. He's far more valuable.
Oh, I bet they would.

Amnorix 06-23-2015 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11562959)
It's going to be really interesting to see what Seattle does in the draft next year.

They WILL lose Okung. They will lose Mebane. They will lose Irvin. I bet they might be able to keep Wagner.

They've already lost their LG and C and are replacing them with average at best players. JR Sweezy and projected starting G Alvin Bailey are both FA's too. At least one will be gone.
Nickel CB's Burley and Lane are both FA's.
Jermaine Kearse and Ricardo Lockette both FA's.

The Seahawks are About to go through what he Ravens went through in 2013 after Flacco got paid. Massive turnover is coming.
They've already downgraded at LG, C and CB opposite of Sherman.


Better hope Schneider's drafts will keep producing good players.

At some point, probably within a year or two, Marshawn Lynch will hit the wall. He has 300+ carries the last four years (including playoffs), and 340+ each of the last three years. He turned 29 a few months ago. The chances of injury or a dramatic drop in productivity are getting pretty damn high.

notorious 06-23-2015 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 11562991)
Oh, I bet they would.
JFC

BigMeatballDave 06-23-2015 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11562914)
I don't see why that's a big deal.

We need to pull the trigger on a R1 QB anyway...so it's an extra first for a proven one...and a big contract, who cares...HE'S A ****ING QB. THEY GET BIG CONTRACTS.

Not that hard.
It's gotta be a rd 1 QB? Really? Where was Wilson drafted, again? :)

You can't keep your arguments in line. :D

BigMeatballDave 06-23-2015 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11562998)
JFC
Jesus had nothing to do with it.

Hammock Parties 06-23-2015 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 11563003)
It's gotta be a rd 1 QB? Really?
Yes.

How ****ing obtuse are you at this point that you would even entertain the notion that this franchise should pass on a R1QB?

BigMeatballDave 06-23-2015 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11563021)
Yes.

How ****ing obtuse are you at this point that you would even entertain the notion that this franchise should pass on a R1QB?
I actually never said that, but you like to make things up.

My point was, that Wilson was NOT a first Rd pick, yet he's the end all be all that you'd trade for. I would too, just not 2 firsts.

Mother****erJones 06-23-2015 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11562959)
It's going to be really interesting to see what Seattle does in the draft next year.

They WILL lose Okung. They will lose Mebane. They will lose Irvin. I bet they might be able to keep Wagner.

They've already lost their LG and C and are replacing them with average at best players. JR Sweezy and projected starting G Alvin Bailey are both FA's too. At least one will be gone.
Nickel CB's Burley and Lane are both FA's.
Jermaine Kearse and Ricardo Lockette both FA's.

The Seahawks are About to go through what he Ravens went through in 2013 after Flacco got paid. Massive turnover is coming.
They've already downgraded at LG, C and CB opposite of Sherman.


Better hope Schneider's drafts will keep producing good players.

They draft well to begin with.

Mother****erJones 06-23-2015 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 11563029)
I actually never said that, but you like to make things up.

My point was, that Wilson was NOT a first Rd pick, yet he's the end all be all that you'd trade for. I would too, just not 2 firsts.
He's not the end all be all. This is a trade discussion about him. I'm sure a lot of us would rather have trade for Luck. So you would rather keep Dee Ford and Eric Fisher than trading for Russell Wilson?

BigMeatballDave 06-23-2015 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 11563031)
So you would rather keep Dee Ford and Eric Fisher than trading for Russell Wilson?
Holy shit! That is the dumbest ****ing argument I've ever heard. LMAO

eDave 06-23-2015 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11563021)
Yes.

How ****ing obtuse are you at this point that you would even entertain the notion that this franchise should pass on a R1QB?
Wilson is shit behind our line. Unless it improves.

RunKC 06-23-2015 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11563021)
Yes.

How ****ing obtuse are you at this point that you would even entertain the notion that this franchise should pass on a R1QB?
Last 10 drafts

EJ Manuel
Luck
RG3
Tannehill
Weeden
Newton
Locker
Gabbert
Ponder
Bradford
Tebow
Stafford
Sanchez
Freeman
Ryan
Flacco
Russell
Quinn
Young
Leinart
Cutler
Alex
Rodgers

You've got 3 (Flacco, Rodgers, Luck) for sure QB's who are very good or have shown to very good and 2 that are 2nd tier at best (Ryan, Stafford).
And we've had a chance to draft only 2 of them in Flacco and Rodgers.

That's an 8% rate over the last 10 years out of 23 QB's that we passed on that were available to us. Your bitching is so annoying dude.

Maybe, just maybe, Reid doesn't think any of the QB's to come out the last 3 years are worth it. I'm trusting him over you.

The Franchise 06-23-2015 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11563052)
Last 10 drafts

EJ Manuel
Luck
RG3
Tannehill
Weeden
Newton
Locker
Gabbert
Ponder
Bradford
Tebow
Stafford
Sanchez
Freeman
Ryan
Flacco
Russell
Quinn
Young
Leinart
Cutler
Alex
Rodgers

You've got 3 (Flacco, Rodgers, Luck) for sure QB's who are very good and 2 that are 2nd tier at best (Ryan, Stafford).
And we've had a chance to draft only 2 of them in Flacco and Rodgers.

That's an 8% success rate over the last 10 years out of 23 QB's. Your bitching is so annoying dude.

Maybe, just maybe, Reid doesn't think any of the QB's to come out the last 2 years are worth it. I'm trusting him over you.
You're missing Bridgewater.....who we DID have a chance to draft and we SHOULD have ****ing drafted.


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