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bigjosh 04-24-2020 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell (Post 14930671)
Sorry but it just doesn't work that way, the guy runs a 4.60. Taylor a 4.38.

Jfc.

Do you really think 40 time matters that much for a rb?

Not to mention that the 4.6 is an unofficial time. Would you be less of a bitch about it if he ran a 4.52?


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Chiefspants 04-24-2020 01:48 PM
Holmes ran a 4.7 40 time.

Ubeja Vontell 04-24-2020 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14930668)
What are YOU watching? LMAO.

Ok, go ahead and explain to us why Veach and Reid chose CEH over this can't miss, star prospect in Taylor. Why did Mahomes want him over Taylor?

Go. Explain to us all why he's still on the board.
LSU used CEH in the passing game, something that interests the Chiefs, get this kid out space with ball in hand. And it makes all the sense in the world.

I just think Taylor is the better RB and so far his production has proven that.

A 220 pound RB with 4.3 speed who scored 60 TD's rushed for over 6000 yards in three seasons and ya can't use him.....huh?

Chiefspants 04-24-2020 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell (Post 14930692)
I just think Taylor is the better RB and so far his production as proven that.
This is why taking Watson over Mahomes was a no-brainer in 2017.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2020 01:54 PM
Williams is a Hall of fame running back if you just count the playoffs

redfan 04-24-2020 01:56 PM
This ****ing guy, I love him!!

Ubeja Vontell 04-24-2020 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 14930686)
Jfc.

Do you really think 40 time matters that much for a rb?

Not to mention that the 4.6 is an unofficial time. Would you be less of a bitch about it if he ran a 4.52?


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So when do we stop with this?

Taylor is bigger, more powerful, gained far more NCAA yards, ran a far faster 40, scored far more TD;s.

So what are we going with?

Deberg_1990 04-24-2020 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell (Post 14930719)
So when do we stop with this?

Taylor is bigger, more powerful, gained far more NCAA yards, ran a far faster 40, scored far more TD;s.

So what are we going with?
It’s entirely possible both backs will be good. Veach and Reid just felt CEH is a better fit for their offense.

Kiimo 04-24-2020 02:03 PM
Wasn't CEH's 40 time a beat up injured CEH running far slower than normal?

Look at the tape his 10 speed is phenomenal. Taylor will never put up the numbers CEH will and if he does I think he'll be Larry Johnson and hit a wall. Lots of tread on those tires.

kccrow 04-24-2020 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell (Post 14930719)
So when do we stop with this?

Taylor is bigger, more powerful, gained far more NCAA yards, ran a far faster 40, scored far more TD;s.

So what are we going with?
They are both starting from scratch in the NFL. We'll see. Both are likely to be good in their own ways.

Helaire will be a Marshall Faulk, Curtis Martin, Brian Westbrook type of player. Taylor is more of a straight-up the middle, Adrian Peterson type back.

Helaire has traits that far better fit KC's offense though, no matter what shit you spit out today.

ToxSocks 04-24-2020 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell (Post 14930719)
, gained far more NCAA yards.... scored far more TD;s.

So what are we going with?
Well no shit. CEH only started one season LMAO.

Your obsession over college stats and a 40 yard dash is odd. It's literally all you've based your assessment on.

Pitt Gorilla 04-24-2020 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 14930729)
Wasn't CEH's 40 time a beat up injured CEH running far slower than normal?

Look at the tape his 10 speed is phenomenal. Taylor will never put up the numbers CEH will and if he does I think he'll be Larry Johnson and hit a wall. Lots of tread on those tires.
Yes. This is well-known.

Ubeja Vontell 04-24-2020 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14930727)
It’s entirely possible both backs will be good. Veach and Reid just felt CEH is a better fit for their offense.
Apparently that was the case.

To ignore.

Taylor

yards 6581
average per touch 6.8
td 55

CEH

2698
6.1
24

You had to be into....your scheme.

Kiimo 04-24-2020 02:06 PM
Scout on Taylor, not even mentioning his EIGHTEEN ****ING FUMBLES


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“The elite size-speed combo is where people will buy in,” said a third scout. “He’s going to disappoint you between the tackles. He doesn’t run to his size. He’s not going hit up in there. You watch the Ohio State games, he’s cringing before he even gets to the line. He’s cringing in the hole. That was really disappointing. I’ve seen it where NFL running back coaches can get that out (of players). That was the big knock on Le’Veon (Bell) coming out, that he didn’t run very big.” He posted a Wonderlic score of 21 and is from tiny Salem, N.J. “Melvin Gordon was different,” said a fourth scout. “He was slick and explosive and made big plays all the time. This guy is strong, not powerful. Excellent vision, excellent patience. Kind of a typical Wisconsin back. He just might have more of the workout-type attributes that you’re looking for. I’d rather have Gordon, all day.”

ToxSocks 04-24-2020 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell (Post 14930739)
Apparently that was the case.

To ignore.

Taylor

yards 6581
average per touch 6.8
td 55

CEH

2698
6.1
24

You had to be into....your scheme.
One did this in the Big10. The other in the SEC.

How many defensive players from the SEC were drafted last night? How many from the Big10?


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