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George Liquor 08-30-2024 12:37 PM

Bloom was a Mo hire right? Sorry, but he's guilty by association. I want every bit of Mo stench removed from Busch.

ChiefsCountry 08-30-2024 12:57 PM

Pham just got DFA. Walker back up.

DJ's left nut 08-30-2024 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 17654758)
What is so loaded about their minor league system?

They have a handful of 50 FV prospects. You know what 50 FV projects to be? An Average MLB player. You know how often those kind of prospects even achieve average results? Like 10%.

I think Mayer is overrated.

That said, Anthony looks special, Teel might be damn good and Campbell looks like he may be the kind of player we hope Wetherholt turns into and they got him with a comp pick.

With Anthony, Mayer, Teel, Campbell and Montgomery, the Sox have 5 guys who are probable top 50 prospects this off-season.

Now is that 'special'? Eh...hard to say. If three of those guys are top 25 guys, it's pretty close. It's not the monster that Baltimore managed to put together, but it's a top 3-5 system pretty easily, IMO. Because it's showing a LOT of forward momentum. Guys like Montgomery and Campbell have been coming on really hard.

I'll say this - I'd put it over any system in the NL Central. And Bloom really didn't get a ton of time to finishing polishing it up to his vision. There's a really good chance the next contending Red Sox team is built on the back of Bloom's efforts in rebuilding that system.

BigRedChief 08-30-2024 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17654746)
Agree. Start completely fresh.

Though the rumor is Mo staying AND a declining payroll blamed on fans "not being loyal "

They think its bad now, wait till they keep Mo in the org or stay the course, they think fans not coming to the ballpark is bas now? Try that and it'll be a ghost town at Bush in 2025.

DJ's left nut 08-30-2024 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17654786)
Pham just got DFA. Walker back up.

He roped another one last night where he was able to get his arms extended.

And he really hit well from the moment he got back to Memphis. Tells me that, despite his prolonged pause in St. Louis, some of those changes may have actually stuck. Usually a week of stasis will break a mere hot streak. But if there were genuine mechanical changes that led to his better play in early August, those would surface again when he got an opportunity.

They did.

Can we please play the damn kid? And keep Turner Ward away from him?

Ocotillo 08-31-2024 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 17654758)
What is so loaded about their minor league system?

They have a handful of 50 FV prospects. You know what 50 FV projects to be? An Average MLB player. You know how often those kind of prospects even achieve average results? Like 10%.

Anthony and Meyer are FV 60 on Baseball America, and Teel and Campbell are FV 55.

The Red Sox were ranked seventh overall in farm system rankings this month by MLB Pipeline.

Ocotillo 08-31-2024 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17654806)
I think Mayer is overrated.

I think Mayer is overrated, too.

He has done well age relative wise to the levels he is playing in but I don't see standout tools.

Ocotillo 08-31-2024 01:34 PM

Jordan Walker is 0-for-4 with three strikeouts today.

BigRedChief 08-31-2024 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17655733)
Jordan Walker is 0-for-4 with three strikeouts today.

Yell at him, Bench him the next day, send him back to the minors. That'll teach him.

Chief Roundup 08-31-2024 04:46 PM

WOW, so the win today against the Yankees is the first in 60 years.

George Liquor 08-31-2024 05:42 PM

Didn't they sweep the Yankees a couple years ago during that 17 game winning streak?

BigRedChief 08-31-2024 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 17655866)
WOW, so the win today against the Yankees is the first in 60 years.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The last 2 Cardinals pitchers to win a game at Yankee Stadium:<br><br>Kyle Gibson<br>Bob Gibson</p>&mdash; Quinn (@QuinnSTLCards) <a href="https://twitter.com/QuinnSTLCards/status/1829968894502543870?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BigRedChief 08-31-2024 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by George Liquor (Post 17655911)
Didn't they sweep the Yankees a couple years ago during that 17 game winning streak?

I think the stat is for winning at Yankee stadium.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For the first time since 1964, the Cardinals have won a game at Yankee Stadium 🤯<br><br>(via <a href="https://twitter.com/MLB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MLB</a>)<a href="https://t.co/bPfZdDhliM">pic.twitter.com/bPfZdDhliM</a></p>&mdash; FOX Sports: MLB (@MLBONFOX) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLBONFOX/status/1829969941711503391?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

George Liquor 08-31-2024 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17655986)
I think the stat is for winning at Yankee stadium.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For the first time since 1964, the Cardinals have won a game at Yankee Stadium ��<br><br>(via <a href="https://twitter.com/MLB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MLB</a>)<a href="https://t.co/bPfZdDhliM">pic.twitter.com/bPfZdDhliM</a></p>&mdash; FOX Sports: MLB (@MLBONFOX) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLBONFOX/status/1829969941711503391?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ok that makes a whole lot more sense.

Rams Fan 09-01-2024 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17654746)
Agree. Start completely fresh.

Though the rumor is Mo staying AND a declining payroll blamed on fans "not being loyal "

It’s so ****ing dumb. The Cardinals use accounting maneuvers to say they’re spending more when they really aren’t and how much they are spending isn’t a direct reflection of increased revenue + BPV.

Their refusal to spend on pitching for a true #1 (Gray isn’t a#1 and is older than signing a guy under 30) and inept development is catching up to them.

So they go like 83-79 this year. What ****ing happens in the off-season? More of the same shit with the FO saying they improved from last year.

I’ll be at the game today wearing black for the funeral in the bleachers.


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