Someone actually did a big write up about how teams aren't actually keeping safeties in the box against us (I think it was about the cowboys game) yet.

Our ol has been pretty ghastly up to this point.

Line of scrimmage was the 5.

Pass caught at the 20.

15-yard throw.

Yes, he threw it from the 5, where the ball was spotted, out of a shotgun snap


You're ridiculous

Irrelevant. When they mark it down in the book, like how ESPN and PFF do splits, that goes down as a 15-yard throw.

Throw distance is measured from the line of scrimmage.

He threw it out of the end zone.

That's how it's properly measured. LOS to point of reception.

You have to explain everything to these homers.

Yes, it is.

But it was obviously a 20 yards throw that clay is trying to be disengenious about

No.

I told you Alex had attempted 4 throws of 20 or more yards this season.

That was not one of them.

I guess we should tack on an extra 3 yards to all of Jamaal's carries cause that's usually how far in the backfield he is at the point of a handoff.

Fine 15 yard throw, Alex is a noodle arm, sucks

It was an excellent throw.

I just wish it wasn't Alex's idea of going down the field.

First play of the season was one, right?

Kaepernik throws down the field. How did he do today?

Kaepernick doesn't have anyone to throw to right now, their skill positions are a joke

That sort of throw proved his arm strength isn't the issue. He could throw deep if he liked and it wouldn't be some Philip rivers floater bullshit. He just doesn't.

It was.

You know who else chucks that pigskin downfield?

Geno Smith.

And he did just fine.

Geno's deep passing PFF rating after this game is gonna be hawt.

BE PATIENT! HE'S WORKING ON IT!

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Get the hell out of here with that bullshit.

im so sick of this excuse. Vance McDonald, Kyle Williams, Anquan Boldin, Garrett Celek, Kendall Hunter, Frank Gore.

That is MORE with a much better offensive line than Alex Smith had to throw to on Thursday night. No one gives him a break because of his lack of weapons.

Which I might remind you, was Charles, Bowe, and Avery.

THATS IT.

And here is why that pisses me off.

In the NFCCG, people on this BOARD, rip the hell out of him.

He was throwing to Crabtree, Kyle Williams, and Vernon, that's it. But he HAD weapons?

Pfff. Great qbs, make their wrs better.

Im still waiting to know to who?

McCluster? About the only guy he has, would be Avery.

or bowe, but Bowe doesn't get enough separation for Alex Smith. He needs at least 7 yards of separation.

He would never attempt that throw that Geno did. Hell, Holmes wasn't even open.

I'd say that Avery wasn't really open on that throw we're all talking about.

Alex will do it, when he's pinned back to the wall. Otherwise, yeah he's looking for some separation.

Nah, I was talking about Genos pass to Santonio Holmes. it was a go route, the db was step for step with him, he just never looked for the ball. Its just not a throw I have ever seen alex make. It also wasn't the clutch situation that Alex apparently loves.

haha.

Alex is on a career pace and if he gets better as he gets better in this offense then he could exceed a lot of peoples expectations. I'd like to see more TD passes but he's on pace for 3,500+ yards. Charles is on pace for 2,000 combined yards too and he's yet to have a real break out game. :clap::clap::clap:

Should have both Smith and Geno on the roster /hindsight

Could have traded down and gotten a decent OT prospect all the same, too.

I mean......wtf?

No one wanted that number one pick. I'm sure kc did everything in their power to get out and couldn't.

Worst year to have#1 in recent memory...

Don't even talk about it. Shit, the player we could have had.

Still, you are 3-0.

True.

It may sound like I'm complaining, I'm really not. I'm over the moon about how this team has been performing, but with a QB like Andrew Luck at the helm for the next decade to complement this incredible defense, we would be as dominant as the Broncos, but with a younger, mobile version of Peyton.

You'd need another wr imho but man am I glad you didn't get Luck.
What sort of satanic sacrifice does Indy undertake to get qb's? It's uncanny.

I know right. 15 years of Peyton, one 2-14 year, then another decade of a half of the second coming of Peyton. JFC are Colts fans lucky.

Don't forget Johnny Unitas and Bert Jones, though their was a bit of a stretch of suckery in-between Jones and Manning.

And Unitas is the best ever.

:rolleyes:

Yeah, I'm sure Dorsey and Reid never thought about that.

Also, I'm positive that they were flooded with offers.

And a better O-Line....and a Fullback....this could go on.

Didn't it though? 30 some years of being scared to take a QB in the 1st. That pick changed everything about the franchise.

They also selected Elway, but traded him. Amazingly timed draft luck
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NO.

I'm not EVEN hearing this O-line shit after what we've put in to it.


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The Raiders didn't have problems trading down from 3...

I'd have loved to have added a second round pick and taken Richardson at 12.

Players available at 12...

Sheldon Richardson
Tyler Eifert
Star Lotuieiououuoi
Eric Reid
Kyle Long
Kenny Vaccaro
EJ Manuel
Geno Smith
Cordarelle Patterson

I don't want to hear the excuses.

There were plenty of options that were ignored to take Fisher and he needs to start living up to the pick because of it.

It still would have been nice to grab someone like Jordan or Mingo at that #1 spot to help spell Hali.

How about Sheldon Richardson to play in front of him to add to the pass rush while adding a second round pick?

Yeah....he would've worked as well. Anybody but a RT that's repeatedly getting blown off the LOS.

I must admit I didn't like your chances on this one, Clay. You have obviously been proven right on Geno. Very impressive.

Crowing your genious on CP does nothing to right the listing ship that is the Chiefs organization. Seize this opportunity to claim your place in Chiefs' history.

Take your message to the sky over the stadium. Banners? pfffft. So last year.

SKYWRITING.

Obvious messages are "Shoulda drafted Geno" "We deserve Geno" "Trade for Geno". I'm sure there are many other messages to send.

I mean a couple of measley banners got Pioli and Crennel fired and Cassel cut. Just pretend what some modern day smoke signals would do.

I'd throw some cash into that one.

Dinny

I'd throw in on some "Chocolate Penii 4 Me!"

Richardson next to Poe....!@#$ me, that would be disgusting.

With Hali/Houston off the edges and w/ DJ's ability in space, you may really be looking at the best defense in the league there, perhaps since the '06 Ravens defense.

Fisher has to turn it up immediately.

But ultimately, your premise is flawed - nobody was giving up picks to move up in this draft. You can argue we should've taken Richardson at #1 overall, but there's no sense in claiming they'd have snagged a 2nd rounder as well - the market just wasn't there.

The Raiders traded down to 12 with Miami and got a second in return.

If the compensation, in terms of draft picks, was adequate then I can't see contract cost being a big difference. Shit, we were reportedly already talking to Miami about trading Albert to them around that same time, too.

Hopefully, Eric Fisher starts to get it sooner rather than later and becomes a premier player for his position. Seems like a long shot, but it's possible. Lots of work to do.

Seems like a long shot? He's a rookie. He's going to get better.

No kidding. Someone should dig around for threads about how bad Albert sucked when he was a rookie. I bet there are some around.

that throw is to the inside..he's lucky the DB was Bartee.

Watching that game yesterday honestly made me happy we didn't take Geno or Manuel. It was bad...

I'd take a sack of stale bread over Sanchez.

Someone should remind Albert of how he stopped sucking because he's doing it again.

Peyton Mannings 3rd career game. L 6-44 20-44 193yards 0 TD 2 INT's Rating of 39.3

Geno Smith 3rd career game W 27-20 16-29 331 yards 3td 2 int Rating 89.9

I'm happy that Peyton guy didn't fall into our laps. I watched him his 3rd game and it was bad/ Black Bob

Seriously....you are trying to compare Geno Smith to Payton Manning? There isn't even a remote comparison to these two if you are looking at them coming out of college.

I understand what you are trying to say, but you picked the wrong comparison and undermine your argument.

Albert only gave up 4 sacks as a rookie.

Saying he sucked is ignorant.

So here is my question.....Geno had one good game, which was yesterday and now we are back questioning why we didn't take him?

I'm all for saying you can't label him a bust yet, but on the same argument you can't label him a success based on one good appearance.

You see. What I did to help the readers keep it in context was quote Bob's post about not like either QB in the 3rd game of their careers. If Bob has watched Peyton's 3rd game of his career he would have left with a much worse impressions one would think, yes?

When I quote the above post to keep it in context it's to prevent someone that lacks common sense from going

"OMG Oh Noesss! You are saying Geno is going to be as good as Peyton!!!! OMG That's crazy! "

Obviously I can't fix stupid every time.

Geno had a total QBR of 85.8 in Sundays game. That's a scale that ranges from 0-100.

That was the 5th best in the NFL.

Hey maybe Geno can become a good QB. I just don't think he'll ever be one of the greats. I don't see him becoming Brees, Rodgers, Manning, Brady, etc. And before someone comes in and says "But we didn't know all of those guys were going to become elite when they were rookies either", that's true, but the fact is they did become elite. I don't think Geno will. Of all the QBs we've passed on in our history (and there have been a lot) there were much better guys we passed up. I'm more upset we passed on Russell Wilson for example and that's just talking about recent history.

I didn't say he sucked.

Or here's a thought.. wait for it.... wait for it.... We understand he's a rookie, who is learning the game and growing and give it time before making any definitive judgements on a 3 game career. I know I know, that's just crazy talk but just a thought.

It's nice you are able to predict the future. Can you provide me with Wednesday's powerball numbers while you are at it?

Neither did anyone else back then. Care to build another straw man?

I'm not saying I can't be wrong.

Did Sanchise ever top 3 TD's and 300 yards?...

What's the problem man? Are you mad because we didn't take the guy you wanted? Draft picks are a crap shoot. Especially in shitty drafts.

However, don't sit here and say "Geno is just a rookie" and then say "no more excuses" in reference to Fisher.

What in the hell is wrong with some of you guys? ROFL

Jets 30, Houston 27. November 2010. 315 yards and 3 TDs.

That's the only one I could find. He had some other games where he threw 3 TDs, one being in the playoffs against the Patriots in 2011, but as far as I can see he never had 300+ and 3+ in any other game.

http://thebiglead.com/2013/09/12/her...-appears-over/

If that is truly what is happening...OK. But I agree with one poster on here who said that when Geno was playing bad in the preseason and the first couple of games, many of his supporters went into hiding. Now that he had one good game suddenly they reappear.

One thing we all should agree on....we won't really know if Geno Smith was another QBOTF we whiffed on for 2 years. By then the Alex Smith project will either be over and another topic that lights up The Planet, or many people will have to eat crow.

I'm hoping for the latter, but thus far afraid it is the former.

Unfortunately you do have a point there...

Irsay tanked it.

The guy was tweeting about drafting Andrew Luck in week 4. He knew what he was trying to do when they let Manning go.

He sabotaged his own team. Nice job at it too.

Suck the penii, haters.

Spoken like a true expert.

If Eric Fisher was a fourth round pick, he would have been benched by now.

Geno has been a huge reason the Jets (who many thought would be the worst team in football) are 2-1 and could have been 3-0

That's not even the point, though.

The point is that we spent the first pick in the draft to downgrade a non premier position.

Shouldn't you expect the first pick in the whole draft to come in and at least be kinda good right away?

Fisher flat put sucks and there were at least 15 players that would have been better picks.

Who huffs glue.