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Perineum Ripper 08-20-2016 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 12377574)
Dude has skills.
I think it was the 2nd gif in the article..the ball is snapped and I pausedon't it..Jones was the only guy standing..no oline had moved and he was already up and starting to cross the line..great speed from such a big guy

Chiefshrink 08-20-2016 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 12377537)
I am looking forward to seeing how our O-line holds up against the Lambs D-line. They have a few studs that could really cause some damage. It will be a great test for them. I am sure Milkman will be watching these battles close and will give us a good summary,

I want to see someone step up and claim that 2nd CB spot across from Peters. As well as see consistent pressure on Goff by our defense.

Really excited to see if Jones has another dominating game and would like to see Hill flash some of that speed that people were gushing at during camp.
I think our O-line holds up well. Jones will rule again, I love this kid's enthusiasm and his motor and I don't think he realizes just how good he can be. The CB position will still be up in the air until Gaines comes back but all our CBs tonight will play so well it will make it very difficult for Reid who to start opening day which is a good problem to have. I'm calling it tonight that Hill returns for a TD!!:thumb:

Halfcan 08-20-2016 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 12377650)
I think our O-line holds up well. Jones will rule again, I love this kid's enthusiasm and his motor and I don't think he realizes just how good he can be. The CB position will still be up in the air until Gaines comes back but all our CBs tonight will play so well it will make it very difficult for Reid who to start opening day which is a good problem to have. I'm calling it tonight that Hill returns for a TD!!:thumb:
With that speed and long arms-he reminds me of a young Neil Smith. Many on here hate Neil since he went to the Donks-but I got the pleasure of watching every single Chiefs home game he ever played in-and he had some amazing years. Jones should learn a lot from our vets and I agree-love his attitude!

Chiefshrink 08-20-2016 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 12377681)
With that speed and long arms-he reminds me of a young Neil Smith. Many on here hate Neil since he went to the Donks-but I got the pleasure of watching every single Chiefs home game he ever played in-and he had some amazing years. Jones should learn a lot from our vets and I agree-love his attitude!
Agree with your comparison and it this point Jones is stronger than Neil however Neil was a tad quicker but maybe Jones will get quicker over time. How can anyone hate Neil Smith:rolleyes: It's a business and you must take care of yourself. Lucky you man !!!

Halfcan 08-20-2016 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mac459 (Post 12377594)
I think it was the 2nd gif in the article..the ball is snapped and I pausedon't it..Jones was the only guy standing..no oline had moved and he was already up and starting to cross the line..great speed from such a big guy
That is awesome, IF Jones can consistently get the jump on his counter part across the line-it will be such a huge advantage. He has the speed to slide past them before they can set their feet and block- we also saw the highlight of that great slap move-where he judo chops the guy out of the way ala Reggie White. Jones also has the power to Bull Rush his guy into the backfield, jamming running lanes-as we saw on that key 4th down stop last week.

Can't wait to see what he does this week. :)

RunKC 08-20-2016 01:36 PM
Have fun in Oakland Sean!

SB Nation NFL @ SBNationNFL-Sean Smith says the Raiders lost because the team lacked “effort and enthusiasm.”

But it’s preseason so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2...en-bay-packers

staylor26 08-20-2016 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12377767)
Have fun in Oakland Sean!

SB Nation NFL @ SBNationNFL-Sean Smith says the Raiders lost because the team lacked “effort and enthusiasm.”

But it’s preseason so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2...en-bay-packers
He sees the difference in the cultures.

KChiefs1 08-20-2016 02:54 PM
Bills released Karlos Williams & Marcell Dareus going into rehab.

Buffalo will need players.


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thabear04 08-21-2016 02:16 AM
Nice highlight video of Peters.

https://youtu.be/e1IljLgfS-M

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-22-2016 01:25 PM
Figure Berry will get on board this week.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-23-2016 03:12 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Other practice notes: Tyler Bray was back and No. 3 at QB, ahead of Aaron Murray. Jamaal Charles worked in full team drills for 1st time</p>&mdash; Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/768188589784043520">August 23, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

rico 08-23-2016 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 12382865)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Other practice notes: Tyler Bray was back and No. 3 at QB, ahead of Aaron Murray. Jamaal Charles worked in full team drills for 1st time</p>&mdash; Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/768188589784043520">August 23, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Interesting.

PunkinDrublic 08-23-2016 03:15 PM
Dee Ford not performing like a first round pick.

-Teicher

Mr_Tomahawk 08-23-2016 03:16 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Saw Tyler Bray, Charcandrick West and Phillip Gaines at practice today. Bray worked with the 3s, Gaines with the 1s</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/768194808120680449">August 23, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

PunkinDrublic 08-23-2016 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by rico (Post 12382868)
Interesting.
I think it's just to give Bray some more snaps to prove himself. I still think Bray will be the odd man out. He missed an entire year due to injury. It may be too late for him to catch up to speed.

staylor26 08-23-2016 03:18 PM
Nice to see Tamba out there moving around. Looks good.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-23-2016 03:19 PM
For the last 3 years everyone has been saying Bray will be cut that year.


Just sayin...

staylor26 08-23-2016 03:21 PM
Terez Paylor
Saw Tyler Bray, Charcandrick West and Phillip Gaines at practice today. Bray worked with the 3s, Gaines with the 1s

Good.

DJ's left nut 08-23-2016 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 12382877)
For the last 3 years everyone has been saying Bray will be cut that year.


Just sayin...
Murray had his shot.

He literally fumbled it away.

Reid's post-game remarks and general tone was one of obvious frustration. I think Murray may have played himself right off the team last weekend.

Bray will get his shot this week and if he can show anything at all, I expect he'll displace Murray. And if he looks as shitty as he looked in week 1 (arguably worse than Murray looked in Week 2), Reid may just flip a goddamn coin at that point.

Mr. Laz 08-23-2016 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12382881)
Murray had his shot.

He literally fumbled it away.

Reid's post-game remarks and general tone was one of obvious frustration. I think Murray may have played himself right off the team last weekend.

Bray will get his shot this week and if he can show anything at all, I expect he'll displace Murray. And if he looks as shitty as he looked in week 1 (arguably worse than Murray looked in Week 2), Reid may just flip a goddamn coin at that point.
So you think Bray is going to play this week with a fractured bone in his neck?

Mr_Tomahawk 08-23-2016 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12382883)
So you think Bray is going to play this week with a fractured bone in his neck?
He has been cleared to practice.

Reid said he could have played in the Rams game...

RippedmyFlesh 08-23-2016 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12382881)
Murray had his shot.

He literally fumbled it away.

Reid's post-game remarks and general tone was one of obvious frustration. I think Murray may have played himself right off the team last weekend.

Bray will get his shot this week and if he can show anything at all, I expect he'll displace Murray. And if he looks as shitty as he looked in week 1 (arguably worse than Murray looked in Week 2), Reid may just flip a goddamn coin at that point.
Hogan instead of a coin flip

Mr. Laz 08-23-2016 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 12382888)
He has been cleared to practice.

Reid said he could have played in the Rams game...
wow

Then why the **** didn't he play?


We have an important decision to make about #3 QB

Mr_Tomahawk 08-23-2016 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12382895)
wow

Then why the **** didn't he play?


We have an important decision to make about #3 QB
Because medical didn't officially clear him until yesterday.

DJ's left nut 08-23-2016 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh (Post 12382890)
Hogan instead of a coin flip
They're pretty clearly sitting on Hogan in the hopes of getting him to the PS. He was never a consideration to play last week at all and doesn't appear to be getting any reps during practice.

I'd be shocked if he's on the roster.

RippedmyFlesh 08-23-2016 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12382905)
They're pretty clearly sitting on Hogan in the hopes of getting him to the PS. He was never a consideration to play last week at all and doesn't appear to be getting any reps during practice.

I'd be shocked if he's on the roster.
I know but I can dream.

DJ's left nut 08-23-2016 03:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 12382888)
He has been cleared to practice.

Reid said he could have played in the Rams game...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 12382899)
Because medical didn't officially clear him until yesterday.
You may want to sit the next play out, Laz.

Kiimo 08-23-2016 03:54 PM
Not sure whether I'm pleased as punch or scared as f that Tamba and Charles aren't wearing any kind of knee braces at practice today.

O.city 08-23-2016 04:07 PM
Yeah, I messed up my mcl a little my Sr year of high school and had to wear this massive knee metal thing.

Times have changed I guess. Now they rip it in half and come back wearing a little neoprene sleeve

staylor26 08-23-2016 04:09 PM
Tamba's looking like he's lost a little weight.

DJ's left nut 08-23-2016 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12382952)
Tamba's looking like he's lost a little weight.
Kinda have to as you age.

He could either lose weight or lose quickness. Losing a little probably won't hurt him while hand-fighting but losing a little quickness surely would. And with his knees, it's an even better idea.

Leaning out a little, even at the cost of some muscle, would be a good idea for Tamba at this point.

RippedmyFlesh 08-23-2016 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 12382932)
Not sure whether I'm pleased as punch or scared as f that Tamba and Charles aren't wearing any kind of knee braces at practice today.
Pleased. Braces may not inhibit movement but mentally I think affects them.
So I take it as a good sign.

staylor26 08-23-2016 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12382955)
Kinda have to as you age.

He could either lose weight or lose quickness. Losing a little probably won't hurt him while hand-fighting but losing a little quickness surely would. And with his knees, it's an even better idea.

Leaning out a little, even at the cost of some muscle, would be a good idea for Tamba at this point.
No I definitely agree, didn't meant it in a negative way.

O.city 08-23-2016 04:14 PM
I keep waiting for a surprise " hey, we've activated houston off the pup, he's ready to go and oh yeah, Berry's back" tweet.

Wtf

DJ's left nut 08-23-2016 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12382961)
No I definitely agree, didn't meant it in a negative way.
Well that kinda goes without saying.

It's staylor we're talking about here...

Kiimo 08-23-2016 04:17 PM
Does Berry have a twitter? Somebody needs to call him up at home or something.

Hey E have you seen our run defense? Pllleeeeaaaasssseeee return.

O.city 08-23-2016 04:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12382967)
Well that kinda goes without saying.

It's staylor we're talking about here...
Paging snr

DJ's left nut 08-23-2016 04:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12382975)
Paging snr
SNR are united in our disdain for you.

We're tight. He'll let me slide.

SAUTO 08-23-2016 04:23 PM
Why would someone disdain o city?

jjchieffan 08-23-2016 04:24 PM
Just saw a tweet. Chiefs 23/1 to make it to the SB. Who's confident enough to put $100 on that action? That would be a nice return.

O.city 08-23-2016 04:25 PM
Mostly jealousy. It's my world, they're just living in it

DJ's left nut 08-23-2016 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12382981)
Why would someone disdain o city?
He's a condescending asshole.

SAUTO 08-23-2016 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12382992)
He's a condescending asshole.
I guess I've never seen that side.


Maybe we are still in the phase where it's still all new and he hides that side.:eek:

staylor26 08-23-2016 04:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12382967)
Well that kinda goes without saying.

It's staylor we're talking about here...
Eat shit. :D

I'm the eternal optimist when it comes to sports (only when my team has management/coaching I believe in), but if you had a philosophical discussion with me you would quickly find out I'm kind of a nihilist.

RealSNR 08-23-2016 04:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12382975)
Paging snr
Blow me

O.city 08-23-2016 04:41 PM
:)

Kiimo 08-23-2016 04:49 PM
nm: trolled

SAUTO 08-23-2016 04:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 12383029)
LMAO the Bucs just cut that kicker they traded up for.
ROFL 2nd rounder ROFL

Kiimo 08-23-2016 04:57 PM
Nah I got whooshed by someone who got whooshed.

They did hire a sports psychologist to help him "deal with the pressure" though.

O.city 08-23-2016 04:59 PM
No way

Kiimo 08-23-2016 05:04 PM
Heh yeah. The fans are being brutal on him and chanting "you can do it!" lmao.


Roberto Aguayo misses 3 of 6 attempts in practice, gets booed


edit: after some research the Bucs didn't hire his mental coach, IMG his agency did. That's even more hilarious.

KChiefs1 08-23-2016 05:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 12382865)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Other practice notes: Tyler Bray was back and No. 3 at QB, ahead of Aaron Murray. Jamaal Charles worked in full team drills for 1st time</p>— Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/768188589784043520">August 23, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Trade bait?




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rico 08-23-2016 05:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12383013)
Eat shit. :D

I'm the eternal :homer: when it comes to sports (only when my team has management/coaching I believe in), but if you had a philosophical discussion with me you would quickly find out I'm kind of a nihilist.


FYP.... :D

staylor26 08-23-2016 05:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rico (Post 12383075)
FYP.... :D
Trust me, I'm not a Chicago Bulls or Miami Hurricanes homer at the moment.

Willie Lanier 08-23-2016 05:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12383054)
Trade bait?




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Should be calling the Steelers yesterday

rico 08-23-2016 05:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12383079)
Trust me, I'm not a Chicago Bulls or Miami Hurricanes homer at the moment.
Honest question, what were yor thoughts during the Cassel-Pioli era? I don't recall seeing you around as much back then. I'm assuming you thought they sucked and that it was more or less unbearable...??

Pasta Little Brioni 08-23-2016 05:36 PM
Thinking this Chiefs team will be very good is not being a homer. This is a loaded squad easily best in division and towards top of conference

rico 08-23-2016 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12383082)
Thinking this Chiefs team will be very good is not being a homer. This is a loaded squad easily best in division and towards top of conference
I was just giving him shit... I like the Ol' Stay Puft Marshmallow Homer. He is really fun to have around here...he reminds me of jd1050, but like...a version of him that loves almost everything about this regime... Those two seem like the same guy, only on two totally different sides of the spectrum.

SAUTO 08-23-2016 05:43 PM
Isn't jd1050 a pats fan?

rico 08-23-2016 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12383096)
Isn't jd1050 a pats fan?
No, the Pats fan has a capital JD.

Pasta Little Brioni 08-23-2016 05:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rico (Post 12383089)
I was just giving him shit... I like the Ol' Stay Puft Marshmallow Homer. He is really fun to have around here...he reminds me of jd1050, but like...a version of him that loves almost everything about this regime... Those two seem like the same guy, only on two totally different sides of the spectrum.
Even knowmos KC is winning the division this year

O.city 08-23-2016 05:58 PM
If this loaded team doesn't start stopping the run or the pass, it's not gonna make much difference

Pasta Little Brioni 08-23-2016 05:59 PM
Still would win the west

New World Order 08-23-2016 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12383122)
Still would win the west

I hope you're right.

Pasta Little Brioni 08-23-2016 06:11 PM
Different team with Tamba Berry and Gaines. Who the **** would be just as good with 5 starters out including 3 all pros???

O.city 08-23-2016 06:15 PM
I feel like we've been thru this before.

"They're not doing any gameplanning, they're not doing this, or that, don't worry about them not stopping this or that, they'll figure it out".

staylor26 08-23-2016 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12383155)
I feel like we've been thru this before.

"They're not doing any gameplanning, they're not doing this, or that, don't worry about them not stopping this or that, they'll figure it out".
What does any of that have to do with 5 starters being out?

It's completely reasonable to think we'll get it together when most of the starters are back.

O.city 08-23-2016 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12383166)
What does any of that have to do with 5 starters being out?

It's completely reasonable to think we'll get it together when most of the starters are back.
But I thought they were loaded with all this depth?

staylor26 08-23-2016 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12383167)
But I thought they were loaded with all this depth?
:facepalm:

O.city 08-23-2016 06:29 PM
I hope they get it together with those guys back. But, those guys consist of a safety that hasn't had a padded practice yet, a corner coming back from a torn acl that's had half of a good season as a rookie, and a pass rusher with bulky knees.

There's alot that could go wrong therr

staylor26 08-23-2016 06:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12383179)
I hope they get it together with those guys back. But, those guys consist of a safety that hasn't had a padded practice yet, a corner coming back from a torn acl that's had half of a good season as a rookie, and a pass rusher with bulky knees.

There's alot that could go wrong therr
You know there's a middle ground here right? I don't think anybody is expecting the defense to be great right off the bat, nor do they need to be. The offense should hit the ground running, and early on just respectable from the defense should do.

Nobody is saying there aren't question marks, but come on we're talking about Berry/Hali/Gaines/Mauga vs. White/Zombo/Murray/Wilson/March. It's pretty obvious we won't be nearly as bad as we have been in the preseason with the proven vets that have played in the system and together.

Pasta Little Brioni 08-23-2016 06:44 PM
Can they survive and compete for the AFC without Houston? Sure

Can they with 4 other starters out? No, but neither could any team in the league.

RunKC 08-23-2016 06:45 PM
the DL is loaded IMO. I think we'd be fine with Gaines if Houston wasn't hurt but Houston is like 30% of our defense.

Dorsey drafted Ford and Gaines bc he knew we'd need them at some point. Time to see how they do. They are really out season if you look big picture.

O.city 08-23-2016 06:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12383184)
You know there's a middle ground here right? I don't think anybody is expecting the defense to be great right off the bat, nor do they need to be. The offense should hit the ground running, and early on just respectable from the defense should do.

Nobody is saying there aren't question marks, but come on we're talking about Berry/Hali/Gaines/Mauga vs. White/Zombo/Murray/Wilson/March. It's pretty obvious we won't be nearly as bad as we have been in the preseason with the proven vets that have played in the system and together.
It's not pretty obvious, like has been said here, because there's just so much unknown and or things that could go either way.
They can't afford to get behind the 8 ball again like last year, they need to get off to a good start.

They can get off to a slow ish start, win 9 or 10 maybe slip into a wildcard spot.

But selfishly, I wanna see both sides of the ball really click and them to run off to a 12 or more win season.

Pasta Little Brioni 08-23-2016 06:47 PM
Fully healthy this is the most balanced team the division has seen in nearly 2 decades/ Deisel Hammy :)

O.city 08-23-2016 06:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12383196)
Can they survive and compete for the AFC without Houston? Sure

Can they with 4 other starters out? No, but neither could any team in the league.
They're not competing foe the afc title and a trip to the superbowl with their best defensive player out. They may be able to survive half the year without him, but they're not a contender without houston.

O.city 08-23-2016 06:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12383207)
Fully healthy this is the most balanced team the division has seen in nearly 2 decades/ Deisel Hammy :)
So, I thought they were llllooooadddedd but now they've gotta be fully healthy?

Pasta Little Brioni 08-23-2016 06:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12383214)
So, I thought they were llllooooadddedd but now they've gotta be fully healthy?
Only tops in one decade given that :)

Pasta Little Brioni 08-23-2016 06:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12383211)
They're not competing foe the afc title and a trip to the superbowl with their best defensive player out. They may be able to survive half the year without him, but they're not a contender without houston.
Sure they are. The offense is going to be much smoother this year.

staylor26 08-23-2016 07:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12383206)
It's not pretty obvious, like has been said here, because there's just so much unknown and or things that could go either way.
They can't afford to get behind the 8 ball again like last year, they need to get off to a good start.

They can get off to a slow ish start, win 9 or 10 maybe slip into a wildcard spot.

But selfishly, I wanna see both sides of the ball really click and them to run off to a 12 or more win season.
I think it's funny that the guy that harps on inexperience issues doesn't see any difference between a buncha rookies and second year players (2 of which were playing new positions), and a few proven vets, some of which are former Pro Bowlers.

I love the young talent on D, but it no way would I expect this D to be the same with March, White, Murray, and Zombo out there instead of those guys week 1.


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