I'm still not calling CEH a JAG injury prone maybe but he is still a young running back getting his groove.


I do think he has a lot to prove because thus far he hasn't played to potential but I'm still going by what I saw him do last year and have higher expectations than most here that he can make that happen again provided he can stay healthy.


You cannot take away what he did last year even though this year isn't the same output. They seem to be running running back by committee using 3 and I think that is to keep them all fresh throughout the games and also why Gore gets a burst because he is fresh in the fourth quarter when defenses are gashed.


I actually think Clyde is under utilized but what ever is working is working so they keep rushing for first downs and our offense keeps scoring touchdowns I really don't give a **** who runs the ball as long as we are winning.

CEH is likely not the third down back because he is not a reliable blocker like Darrel is. Saying he shouldn't be blamed for his lack of receiving production because Darrel is out there on 3rd downs is not the pro-CEH argument that some think it is.

Not arguing that at all, but people saying the Williams is better is just absurd. Williams ran the ball 21 times against Washington for 62 yards.

Kansas City hasn't been a RB "pass blocking" team, the last time I saw stats on it they only used RBs for pass blocking on 13% of the plays. Our RBs are extra receivers mostly and run the ball as well.

I am not expecting CEH to be anything that he isn't. He is who he is. He is barely above average when it comes to RBs and he was drafted too highly. That is not his fault, he wasn't projected as a first round RB and where he was drafted is barely the first round at all.

I hope Gore gets some more carries to show if he is anything or just looks good on occasions.

You have quite a rosy recollection of what CEH was last year. He was better than he is this year but most of his games were still 4ypc and under. Even last year he was a JAG.

Last year? Last year he never ran behind the starting OL. Not sure we can Use much data from last year.

If this chart shows that CEH is a JAG, then it also shows that Darrel is a turd who shouldn't even be in the NFL (which my eyes already noticed anyway). Seriously, there's isn't even anyone close to Darrel's crap spot on the chart.

I get the complaints about CEH but I don't understand why everyone gives Darrel a pass - he sucks pretty bad running the ball and his receiving, while good, is not enough to make up for it. I understand CEH was a 1st rounder and Darrel didn't cost us much, but getting more carries for Darrel at the expense of CEH makes us a worse team. I would have much preferred Darrel to get injured than CEH.

One thing I think we've all seen enough of as Chiefs' fans is good running backs. Most of us have the ability to recognize one when we see it.

CEH just isn't that good, and it's really that simple. He's incredibly average and at best is just the same caliber player as Gore and Williams, which would be fine except that he was a first rounder and you expect more out of that kind of pick.

Honestly, I think they're finding a good balance using the 3 of them and CEH has a nice role here. However, he's never going to be the 2,000 total yard, 15 TD guy that a lot of us had hoped. He's a role player at best and there's really no arguing it right now. The sample size is big enough to come to that conclusion.

Our offense loses absolutely nothing when he's not in the game, and that tells you all you need to know about him.

Interesting graph. I never knew they tracked "perfect run blocking"

If you looked through my posting history you will find that I am not a big Darrel fan, in fact I have shit on him alot. That pass he dropped in the SB was unforgivable IMHO.

But why does it seem like Darrel gets a pass is because he is an undrafted FA so the expectations aren't very high for him compared to CEH.

This is pretty much the perfect post about CEH and Chief RB's. Couldn't have said it better myself.

Yep, yep, and more yep.

No one is giving him a pass, but he is a clear contributor in one aspect of his game whereas CEH isn't.

Be interested to see where gore falls on this. I know there’s an analysis on this. But the one thing that keeps standing out to me is how ceh seems to have only one speed. Has better wiggle than the other two but seems to attack every run the same way and speed. Seems this has been an analysis on vision. What seems to set Williams and especially gore apart is patience to set up the blocks.

I can't believe that chart would be very positive for Gore. If you take out the one long run from Gore's totals, he'd have a 3.45 YPC average.

To be fair, if you take away CEH's longest run, he'd have a 4.24 YPC average.

I still don't get the hate I do get that he isn't have the stellar year that he had last year but the kid is still a stud and I can see him turning it around and kick some ass again LIKE HE DID LAST YEAR. However maybe that will come this year but I'm hopeful he does great in the playoffs we need all hands on deck.


Last year in this very thread people were sucking his dick but ever since he fumbled nothing but hate even though he has been grinding out first downs on first down.

I’d like to see Gore get a shot at the lead back role. He’s had breakout plays consistently when given opportunities.

It wouldn’t surprise me. Gore is more boom bust. Ceh is an Alex smither who doesn’t lose yards but consistently hits 2-5 yards but can’t hit home runs. With our offense I’d much rather a guy who can actually rip a few. I feel like gore could be that guy at least for this year if he got a chance. So I don’t think you can take away the big runs. I think the bigger story is he’s had big runs in way less opportunities that ceh has not.

Once again...he didn't have a stellar year last year. He had an ok year that he should have built off of. He had two very good games and then a bunch of average to terrible games.

Just googled his injury update and the article said the injury came from how he fell.

Total ****ing bullshit, Loudermilk should be fined for the way he pile drove him into the ground.
I wish someone could gif up that tackle, I have no idea how to do it. It is the exact kind of tackle they were fining players for on Qbs.:cuss:

I'm not giving up on him because I think he has determination that if he can channel then he can still have dominant games ahead of him and he has good coaching. I think we have several backs that are getting the job done so I'm not so worried about being right or wrong I just believe in the kid like Veach did when he drafted him so I'm still going like him as long as he is a Chief and think he has big plays in him. It is nice we have other backs that are kicking ass. Veach is a genius. He wasn't a wasted pick because he played a part that helped us get another Lamar Hunt Trophy. Andy likes roll players and that's what he is a roll player everyone knows their roll.

Clyde is like this thread- they both have lost their burst.

CEH is just like Mecole.

staylor26 has sucked the LSU & UGA out of them. The little bundle of sticks loves him some Hardman cock & Clyde jizz.


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I like them both in the role that they will be playing that Coach Reid has them doing that helps us win another Lombardi trophy.

Imagine this Chiefs offense with Kenneth Walker, a Dalvin Cook/LeVeon Bell hybrid. It would be special. Clyde is a jag and will stay a jag. Accept the reality and let's move on.

Mecole is such an odd duck. Never seen a receiver who will end up catching 60 balls as your third receiver, and be less valuable.

Pringle has had a better year.

And a guy whos so meh sometimes and so explosive others.

Has this piece of shit been cleared to play yet?

No, but by all accounts he seems nice.

You're really obsessed with Staylor huh?

It's explained by the fact that he has a ton of physical talent but he plays dumb football and is turnover prone so he's impossible to trust.

CEH on the other hand just seems to lack the overall talent to really distinguish himself.

I think for CEH to work with his skillset he needs perfect vision at the line and exceptional route running ability and hands. I’d argue he showed flashes of the vision part last season, but that’s regressed this year and his pass catching has never developed. He doesn’t have the talent to make up for those deficits in this offense and so far his body hasn’t been able to seek out contact Kareem style.

If he had even Darrel’s pass catching # I’d be feeling better about him. I know he gets knocked for not having breakaway speed or big plays, but Priest’s 2003 was basically the PRIME version of the CEH the team is hoping for. Chunk plays, passes from the backfield, and while not hitting home runs, a staple of reliability on third downs and in the red zone. CEH’s skills we drafted him for just haven’t yet emerged at this level and the injuries aren’t helping him as he tries to find his footing.

Think of this team with Jonathan Taylor at RB and DK Metcalf at WR2.

Yeah, they were both badass when it mattered most.

Nice call, Chief Fan.

Dude was beasting tonight. Had burst I haven't seen from him in what feels like forever.

CP shouldn’t be allowed to evaluate players.

Usually turns out to be the case of the dumbs.

He made a bad a pretty bad decision to cut inside for no reason on one attempt. Otherwise, he looked ****ing amazing in there.

He had a great day today. Exactly what we need from that position.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Reminder that Joe Burrow was on a team with Ja&#39;Marr Chase, Justin Jefferson, and Derek Stingley and still said that CEH was the best player he had ever played with. <br><br>There&#39;s something there, folks. You just gotta believe. <a href="https://t.co/EfwPLFIRWp">https://t.co/EfwPLFIRWp</a></p>&mdash; Brett Kollmann (@BrettKollmann) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrettKollmann/status/1527858540232122368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 21, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'm dubious

Joe Burrow was high or suffering from head trauma when he said that. CEH is barely JAG

This game is why people were high on him
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CEH will bust out. He's still a baby.

I see what you did there

Sounds like someone was listening; Chiefs wasted a pick on him. Gaslighting works on us all...

I still see Emmitt Smith in the video.

His side step didn't translate into the NFL like we thought it would.



Unfortunately that's the only thing about his game that was exceptional

I hope people don't look as this guy as an example of why you don't take RBs in the first. If Pat was truly the guy that signed off on him in the first, he should be locked out of the draft room forever.


Thar being said this guy will be great for us catching more passes than getting carries. Still riding with him on my fantasy team

If he's fully recovered from gallbladder surgery, then I'm actually quite excited to see him play. This might be the first time we'll see him produce on a consistent basis like he did at LSU.

I still think he looked good his rookie year until the saints folded him in half. We'll see if he can get back to form.

That's part of the problem, his style of play invites injuries because he plays like he's 6'2 220 but instead he's 5'7 205

Which is why he should get 15 carries MAX per game... otherwise we'll never get a full season out of him

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This tape probably got him drafted

He's pretty good at dragging tacklers after contact. Unfortunately that gets him twisted up like a pretzel at the end of the play.

Why do you guys hate on our players so much? It's not his fault they drafted him in the 1st. Also not his fault that his injuries have been so nuts. Dude is a stud, if the gall bladder thing is true that would severely hurt him last year. Just need the get him going and commit to the run game. He had 26 carries for 161 yards in the only game I've seen them actually lean on him.

What if gets 3000 yds this year?

Because he is not a stud.

I don't hate him or want him off the team but he shouldn't even be starting. This isn't because I "hate our players" it's because we strive to not be TrueFan homers just because of his uniform.

He'd have the best season of any RB in history by a mile.

I hate the pick not the player. Just don't see what made them think a 5'7 207 guy who isn't THAT fast could be a bell cow back.

I think he could easily put up half of that running and receiving

1500 yards is possible.

I'd be much more excited to see him get 5-600 receiving. That's where I thought he'd be deadly, and he's sucked at it so far.

50 yards rushing and receiving pg is almost 2000 ap yards


What happened to those btw?

CEH took an obvious step back last year. His first year was good. I'm not sure what to expect this year but I really like Ronald Jones and the Rutgers kid.

I said this when we drafted him, but I actually PREFER my RBs to be under 6'0

I know 5'7 is a far cry from 6'0 but I hate watching tall RBs run so upright. It's so ineffective. I know many of them figure out how to run with a lower center of gravity, but it's certainly a lot tougher to do.

Would rather have a bowling ball than a bowling pin.

So like someone who is 5’10 225

But I was told Taylor couldn’t catch so I was all in on CEH

I don't watch college, so I knew nothing about him until after KC picked him.

But watching a few highlights, it sure seemed like he ought to be a nightmare catching balls out in the flats and punishing teams for the two deep coverage.

Still don't quite understand why that wasn't the case.

CEH has a tiny catch radius- it really limits his potential impact in the passing game

I'd like to introduce you to the QB of the Kansas City Chiefs

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Catch radius doesn’t really matter for RBs.

Most good receiving backs are small.

What has limited CEH in the passing game is his pass blocking and their refusal to use him much on long downs because of it.

Signing RoJo tells me they’re planning to use CEH more in the passing game this year though.

How much pass blocking upside does a 5'7 player have in the NFL? Either keep a TE in to block and/or you put more quick passes in the gameplan for him. JUST DO IT.

I personally think CEH was made to wreck light boxes and also be a weapon out of the backfield in heavy personnel.......that's the way I use him on Madden anyway

Have you watched the games? Cause all I see is him running through wide open holes or run into the backs of his lineman. All he had to do was cut left and or right and there was a wide open hole.

My wish is he looks like a different back this season, but I won't get my hopes up. If he doesn't come out the hair on fire I hope the hell they don't keep giving him snaps over the better back.

Which is why we should have taken Jonathan Taylor instead! I was pounding the drum for him all the way to the draft! I was excited about CEH ONLY because he is from LSU - that ONLY! He is a bust and we screwed up on drafting him. He IS NOT going to GROW - he is what he is - a complete BUST! We pissed away a first round pick on HOPE and lost. Will never believe in him and cannot wait for us to move on from him. I do not think I will be eating any crow on this one. Not a Ryan Leaf pick but still, Chiefs lost on this one big time.

CEH is going to have a breakout type year. This will be the best OL he's EVER been behind in his career. He'll average about 75 yards/game for the first 6 weeks or so until JuJu/Skyy gets somewhat comfortable in the offense, then 'poof' Clyde will suddenly average 100+/game.

The knock on Taylor was that he couldn’t catch, and that the wheels would fall off quickly given his workload at Wisconsin. Hindsight.

I will say CEH is far from a bust. He had 1,100 yards from scrimmage and five TD’s his rookie year in 13 games. Last year, he only played in 10 games, and put up over 600+ yards from scrimmage and 6 TD’s. A bust is Breeland Speaks. A bust is Trezelle Jenkins. Jon Baldwin. Ryan Sims. It’s all about finding a way to stay healthy for CEH.

Clyde is only 23 years and has flashed brilliance. Priest Holmes was 28 years old before he suited up for the Chiefs. It's only the beginning for Clyde.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=miRQ4xZ59gE

He's flashed way more JAG than "brilliance."

Imagine defending this guy..

In probably the most RB friendly team in the league, I can't tell if this dude is any better than Darrel Williams and Jerick McKinnon. That tells you everything you need to know.

I’m not holding my breath on a breakout year, but it’s really not difficult to understand how somebody can defend the guy when you hear how the gallbladder surgery ****ed up his offseason, which obviously impacted his season overall.

It’s amazing how people hate the guy so much that they don’t want to acknowledge that context.

The biggest problem with Clyde is that he just can't get or stay healthy.

He didn't look like the same player last season as he did his last year at LSU, or even his rookie year before he got hurt.

Knee, hip, gallbladder, all of it; I feel for the kid. But you can't make the club from the tub.

Will he be and can he stay healthy this season? Maybe, but I'm not holding my breath.

He was like this in his rookie season too. He couldn't find and/or get through open holes.

His rookie season isn’t even remotely comparable to last year.

He was running behind arguably the worst run blocking OL in football.

And has somebody has pointed out, his production was still fairly good his rookie year considering that.