ChiefsPlanet

ChiefsPlanet (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)
-   Nzoner's Game Room (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1)
-   -   Chiefs *****2023 NFL DRAFT THREAD - NO SPOILERS***** (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=348518)

srvy 04-28-2023 09:06 PM

lol round 3 kicker 9ers are pretty confident in their team.

ForeverChiefs58 04-28-2023 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16924972)
Who the **** takes a ****ing kicker in the third ****ing round?!

Raiders says hold my beer, and took one in the first

Mecca 04-28-2023 09:08 PM

I like that the Steelers are having a good draft, let the north be tough so they can beat each other up.

smithandrew051 04-28-2023 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16924985)
Tampa and he was awful

That’s right. He went super early too.

Can’t believe teams do shit like this.

Mecca 04-28-2023 09:09 PM

Tre Tucker just went before Tyler Scott...

siberian khatru 04-28-2023 09:09 PM

Is Matt Lane the most miserable Chiefs fan on earth?

Gravedigger 04-28-2023 09:10 PM

Rich Eisen talking into the camera and saying “Kickers are people too.” Made me laugh when the 49ers pick was announced.

Mecca 04-28-2023 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 16925002)
Is Matt Lane the most miserable Chiefs fan on earth?

He believes really heavily in his own draft grades and positional value and he will give bad grades unlike the tv guys so thats just him.

Coach 04-28-2023 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 16925002)
Is Matt Lane the most miserable Chiefs fan on earth?

Yes.

Rain Man 04-28-2023 09:12 PM

Robert Smith is one of the most underrated running backs ever. I was a big fan of him.

Mecca 04-28-2023 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16925011)
Robert Smith is one of the most underrated running backs ever. I was a big fan of him.

If you breathed on him, he got hurt.

siberian khatru 04-28-2023 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16924972)
Who the **** takes a ****ing kicker in the third ****ing round?!

Going back several years, but the St. Louis Cardinals drafted Steve Little in the first round and John Lee in the second (different years). Both were gigantic busts.

siberian khatru 04-28-2023 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16925011)
Robert Smith is one of the most underrated running backs ever. I was a big fan of him.

Agreed

Rain Man 04-28-2023 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 16924975)
Would love to smash the Raiderettes

They're really gone downhill from their Los Angeles days. The group up there didn't wow me, whereas they used to be a neverending parade of hotness.

WhawhaWhat 04-28-2023 09:14 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🚨 KICKER ALERT 🚨<a href="https://twitter.com/jmoods13?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@jmoods13</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/49ers?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@49ers</a><br><br>📺: 2023 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLDraft?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLDraft</a> on NFLN/ESPN/ABC<br>📱: Stream on NFL+ <a href="https://t.co/D3EqkrKLy4">https://t.co/D3EqkrKLy4</a> <a href="https://t.co/qDX27n1NRV">pic.twitter.com/qDX27n1NRV</a></p>&mdash; NFL (@NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1652147080822153217?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 29, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bump 04-28-2023 09:14 PM

hopefully we get some more of them year 1 starting badass late round picks again!

I fear the last 3 drafts are practically too good to keep going at such a high hit rate though and we are "due" but that's just being pessimistic. I don't have a ****ing clue about any of these players outside of their highlight tapes

Bob Dole 04-28-2023 09:15 PM

Duncan Idaho all over the RGR live stream.

ChiefsCountry 04-28-2023 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 16925002)
Is Matt Lane the most miserable Chiefs fan on earth?

That would be okchiefs aka kcchiefsus

Chris Meck 04-28-2023 09:21 PM

I picked all of these guys in those rounds in multiple mocks. I read their reports and watched a little film.

I feel like we got some real good players here, at about where they were expected to go.

ChiefsFanatic 04-28-2023 09:21 PM

Why has Ringo fallen so far? It must suck to go from a mid 2nd round pick to a 4th round pick, assuming he is picked in the 4th round.

ChiefBlueCFC 04-28-2023 09:21 PM

Guys I’m an idiot generally, but completely dumbfounded when it comes to if we actually have good picks.

So my question to you guys that take the time, how has the draft panned out so far for the chiefs? It seems decent so far but I don’t know lol

Mecca 04-28-2023 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 16925035)
Why has Ringo fallen so far? It must suck to go from a mid 2nd round pick to a 4th round pick, assuming he is picked in the 4th round.

He's not fluid in his hips, he's stiff. He's also very strong at the point so a smaller receiver could give him problems.

oldman 04-28-2023 09:28 PM

What did we have to give to move up in rounds 2 and 3? Considering they weren't huge jumps did we keep our 4th and 5th?

Megatron96 04-28-2023 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefBlueCFC (Post 16925037)
Guys I’m an idiot generally, but completely dumbfounded when it comes to if we actually have good picks.

So my question to you guys that take the time, how has the draft panned out so far for the chiefs? It seems decent so far but I don’t know lol

Won't really know until these guys see live snaps in a real game. But it looks like we got some good players. No steals, no one that's probably going to reset the bar, but solid players. We're pretty sure, anyway. I'd give it a straight up B so far.

Chris Meck 04-28-2023 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefBlueCFC (Post 16925037)
Guys I’m an idiot generally, but completely dumbfounded when it comes to if we actually have good picks.

So my question to you guys that take the time, how has the draft panned out so far for the chiefs? It seems decent so far but I don’t know lol

Well, as I posted just above, the DE's tended to thin out by mid second, so they got the guy they wanted at 31. In multiple mocks from multiple sites, Uzi was always gone by 40. If you like a guy at 40, just take him at 31 for the 5th year if nothing else. Don't get cute. Solid pick.

There was a big grouping of 2nd-3rd round WR's; they went up and got the guy they wanted from that group rather than take what fell. Rice went about where he tended to in multiple mocks. He's a 'Hopkins' type receiver, with nearly identical measurements. Physical, aggressive, good RAC.

Morris has experience at both OT spots, but played RT mostly. 35" arms, athletic, quick. Definitely starter potential with a little clean-up in his technique.

All three positions of need, all three went at about the right spot, no reaches, the last two they went up and got their guy rather than wait.

I think it's a real solid B+ draft, and that's tough to do picking at the bottom of the round.

Just my .02

:thumb:

Chris Meck 04-28-2023 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16925064)
Won't really know until these guys see live snaps in a real game. But it looks like we got some good players. No steals, no one that's probably going to reset the bar, but solid players. We're pretty sure, anyway. I'd give it a straight up B so far.

The steals come late in the draft, when you get a Trey Smith for a 6th, or a Pacheco in the 7th.

Mecca 04-28-2023 09:44 PM

Basically every edge was gone by round 3, Chiefs got ahead of it.

BryanBusby 04-28-2023 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16925065)
Well, as I posted just above, the DE's tended to thin out by mid second, so they got the guy they wanted at 31. In multiple mocks from multiple sites, Uzi was always gone by 40. If you like a guy at 40, just take him at 31 for the 5th year if nothing else. Don't get cute. Solid pick.

There was a big grouping of 2nd-3rd round WR's; they went up and got the guy they wanted from that group rather than take what fell. Rice went about where he tended to in multiple mocks. He's a 'Hopkins' type receiver, with nearly identical measurements. Physical, aggressive, good RAC.

Morris has experience at both OT spots, but played RT mostly. 35" arms, athletic, quick. Definitely starter potential with a little clean-up in his technique.

All three positions of need, all three went at about the right spot, no reaches, the last two they went up and got their guy rather than wait.

I think it's a real solid B+ draft, and that's tough to do picking at the bottom of the round.

Just my .02

:thumb:

I think FAU and Rice went a bit early but nothing egregious. You can kinda get away with not maxing value when your roster is set and you won the ****ing Super Bowl.

I didn't like the first trade up much but they at least made a logical selection with it.

Mecca 04-28-2023 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 16925080)
I think FAU and Rice went a bit early but nothing egregious. You can kinda get away with not maxing value when your roster is set and you won the ****ing Super Bowl.

I didn't like the first trade up much but they at least made a logical selection with it.

The WRs weren't following any pattern, when Jayden Reed goes 50 if Rice is your guy you have to go get him.

BryanBusby 04-28-2023 09:49 PM

Pattern seemed mostly fine. CP just overrated a few guys.

Coach 04-28-2023 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldman (Post 16925048)
What did we have to give to move up in rounds 2 and 3? Considering they weren't huge jumps did we keep our 4th and 5th?

If my research is correct, the Chiefs still have the following:

4(32)
5(32)
6(1)
6(17)
7(33)

SAGA45 04-28-2023 10:17 PM

I could be wrong but I feel the Chiefs will go DL-heavy on day 3. More EDGE, DT or two. That will be the theme for this class. Injecting some fresh blood into in that front-four rotation.

BigRedChief 04-28-2023 10:25 PM

Op: we only have one 6th round pick tomorrow, correct?

BigRedChief 04-28-2023 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAGA45 (Post 16925135)
I could be wrong but I feel the Chiefs will go DL-heavy on day 3. More EDGE, DT or two. That will be the theme for this class. Injecting some fresh blood into in that front-four rotation.

We need rotational DT help. Maybe developmental OL talent and a CB to start in 2 year.

ChiefBlueCFC 04-28-2023 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16925065)
Well, as I posted just above, the DE's tended to thin out by mid second, so they got the guy they wanted at 31. In multiple mocks from multiple sites, Uzi was always gone by 40. If you like a guy at 40, just take him at 31 for the 5th year if nothing else. Don't get cute. Solid pick.

There was a big grouping of 2nd-3rd round WR's; they went up and got the guy they wanted from that group rather than take what fell. Rice went about where he tended to in multiple mocks. He's a 'Hopkins' type receiver, with nearly identical measurements. Physical, aggressive, good RAC.

Morris has experience at both OT spots, but played RT mostly. 35" arms, athletic, quick. Definitely starter potential with a little clean-up in his technique.

All three positions of need, all three went at about the right spot, no reaches, the last two they went up and got their guy rather than wait.

I think it's a real solid B+ draft, and that's tough to do picking at the bottom of the round.

Just my .02

:thumb:


Thank you, I appreciate you taking the time!

Dante84 04-28-2023 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16925148)
Op: we only have one 6th round pick tomorrow, correct?

No sir, it is correct.

The Rashee Rice trade had a pick come back with it.

Hoover 04-28-2023 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 16925080)
I think FAU and Rice went a bit early but nothing egregious. You can kinda get away with not maxing value when your roster is set and you won the ****ing Super Bowl.

I didn't like the first trade up much but they at least made a logical selection with it.

A little early sure, but I think fans view the draft completely differently from the team. Fans are trying to win every pick, hoping guys fall to them. Teams target player and go after the guys they want. In this draft they would rather have Rice than others on the board, so they go up and get their guy. The team is looking for fit. The fan is looking for the instant gratification of getting a steal.

BigRedChief 04-28-2023 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16925175)
No sir, it is correct.

The Rashee Rice trade had a pick come back with it.

Sorry my bad. I should have known you were on top of it. :clap:

DenverChief 04-28-2023 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 16925105)
If my research is correct, the Chiefs still have the following:

4(32)
5(32)
6(1)

6(17)
7(33)

ooooh back to back picks

Coach 04-28-2023 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 16925186)
ooooh back to back picks

Nope. There are more picks in the 5th round, up to 43. The LAR has 5th(43) then KC at 6(1).

I can understand the thinking of (32) then (1), but that’s usually rounds 1 and 2 in most cases. 3rd or later rounds also have the comp picks involved.

Dante84 04-28-2023 10:54 PM

Back to back picks is my nightmare

Coach 04-28-2023 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16925199)
Back to back picks is my nightmare

It’s not back to back picks. There are more picks in the 5th round, up to 43. The LAR has 5th(43) then KC at 6(1).

I can understand the thinking of (32) then (1), but that’s usually rounds 1 and 2 in most cases. 3rd or later rounds also have the comp picks involved.

DenverChief 04-28-2023 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 16925195)
Nope. There are more picks in the 5th round, up to 43. The LAR has 5th(43) then KC at 6(1).

I can understand the thinking of (32) then (1), but that’s usually rounds 1 and 2 in most cases. 3rd or later rounds also have the comp picks involved.

GAH - way to poop on my parade :harumph:

DenverChief 04-28-2023 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16925199)
Back to back picks is my nightmare

Why?

Dante84 04-28-2023 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 16925204)
Why?

I love it for the Chiefs, it’s just anxiety-inducing to get the threads launched simultaneously like that lol

Tribal Warfare 04-28-2023 11:18 PM

Keaton Mitchell, Roschon Johnson, Adetomiwa Adebawore , and Karl Brooks are available

BossChief 04-28-2023 11:54 PM

I bet Veach has at least 1 more trade up to go get another guy he has targeted.

This team really does need another DT and there are some good ones like Roy/Ojomo still out there as well as some superb values at premium $ positions, too like Perry, Adebaware, Roscon, and at least 7-10 others that probably have no business still being on the board in the 4th round.

JPH83 04-28-2023 11:59 PM

I'm not sure we trade up again. I know there's only so many spots but we still have plenty to fill and not a lot of money to tie people up in FA. We need 1-2 DTs, and a RB at a minimum.

JPH83 04-29-2023 03:02 AM

How are people grading it so far? I reckon a solid B. For me...

FAU - A - The one thing I've been banging the table for is a DE that wins with something other than POWER. He may need a year but I think with Omenihu we have plenty of inside-outside versatility, as well as a big upgrade on Saunders as an interior pass-rusher. I think, ultimately, FAU becomes a much better pass-rusher than we got with Clark.

Rice - C+/B- - My least favourite of the picks. I don't have any great issue with Rice but I'd have rather stayed put and taken Tillman. If we wanted a contested catch guy I'd have gone with the tall one without drops who played better competition, but my hit ratio on WRs is about zero so I look forward to getting this wrong too.

Morris - B - Might have taken Duncan but this is where value at OT was after Harrison went. He's basically another Niang type swing - good measurables, injuries, probably a better overall athlete, some technical inconsistencies. A good developmental option and I quite like the strategy of going for decent athletes with less polish at OT in R3.

Monticore 04-29-2023 05:19 AM

https://i.ibb.co/g7LwPJB/76448872-FC...-B12-BD2-E.jpg

Mr_Tomahawk 04-29-2023 06:09 AM

Haha

Couch-Potato 04-29-2023 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16925288)
How are people grading it so far? I reckon a solid B. For me...

FAU - A - The one thing I've been banging the table for is a DE that wins with something other than POWER. He may need a year but I think with Omenihu we have plenty of inside-outside versatility, as well as a big upgrade on Saunders as an interior pass-rusher. I think, ultimately, FAU becomes a much better pass-rusher than we got with Clark.

Rice - C+/B- - My least favourite of the picks. I don't have any great issue with Rice but I'd have rather stayed put and taken Tillman. If we wanted a contested catch guy I'd have gone with the tall one without drops who played better competition, but my hit ratio on WRs is about zero so I look forward to getting this wrong too.

Morris - B - Might have taken Duncan but this is where value at OT was after Harrison went. He's basically another Niang type swing - good measurables, injuries, probably a better overall athlete, some technical inconsistencies. A good developmental option and I quite like the strategy of going for decent athletes with less polish at OT in R3.

I'd say a B as well, solid players but I'm not jumping out of my seat.

MarkDavis'Haircut 04-29-2023 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 16924975)
Would love to smash the Raiderettes

The only good thing about the Raiders right now.

bigjosh 04-29-2023 07:30 AM

Do we go and grab a Cinci bearcat at TE ?

FloridaMan88 04-29-2023 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16925288)
How are people grading it so far? I reckon a solid B. For me...

FAU - A - The one thing I've been banging the table for is a DE that wins with something other than POWER. He may need a year but I think with Omenihu we have plenty of inside-outside versatility, as well as a big upgrade on Saunders as an interior pass-rusher. I think, ultimately, FAU becomes a much better pass-rusher than we got with Clark.

Rice - C+/B- - My least favourite of the picks. I don't have any great issue with Rice but I'd have rather stayed put and taken Tillman. If we wanted a contested catch guy I'd have gone with the tall one without drops who played better competition, but my hit ratio on WRs is about zero so I look forward to getting this wrong too.

Morris - B - Might have taken Duncan but this is where value at OT was after Harrison went. He's basically another Niang type swing - good measurables, injuries, probably a better overall athlete, some technical inconsistencies. A good developmental option and I quite like the strategy of going for decent athletes with less polish at OT in R3.

Tillman with the ankle injury too risky.

And it seems like there was lot of skepticism around the league about how much of Hooker/Hyatt/Tillman’s production was a result of the scheme at Tennessee.

JPH83 04-29-2023 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16925456)
Tillman with the ankle injury too risky.

And it seems like there was lot of skepticism around the league about how much of Hooker/Hyatt/Tillman’s production was a result of the scheme at Tennessee.

Yeah it's a fair point re the injury, I'd probably have pulled the trigger.

O.city 04-29-2023 08:38 AM

Might flip a pick for swift

BigRedChief 04-29-2023 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16925245)
I bet Veach has at least 1 more trade up to go get another guy he has targeted.

This team really does need another DT and there are some good ones like Roy/Ojomo still out there as well as some superb values at premium $ positions, too like Perry, Adebaware, Roscon, and at least 7-10 others that probably have no business still being on the board in the 4th round.

Agree. 1st pick today needs to be a DT.

Couch-Potato 04-29-2023 08:49 AM

Maybe we can Trade #178 (6th) to Swap 5th's (-10 spots) and 4th's with the Colts to get to #110 (+24 spots)?

Get another top 100'ish guy.

Mosbonian 04-29-2023 08:54 AM

I don't know if anyone has discussed McCourty"s remarks last night....but I found them silly and self serving.

Couch-Potato 04-29-2023 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 16925499)
I don't know if anyone has discussed McCourty"s remarks last night....but I found them silly and self serving.

?

Mosbonian 04-29-2023 09:04 AM

He made smarmy remarks about enjoying the 2019 AFC Championship game when the Pat's beat the Chiefs...he also made some comments about KC BBQ

KingPriest2 04-29-2023 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 16925513)
He made smarmy remarks about enjoying the 2019 AFC Championship game when the Pat's beat the Chiefs...he also made some comments about KC BBQ

Are you allowing a grown guy controll how you feel? lol

Who cares what he said! lol


Does his opinion really matter what he says?

Mosbonian 04-29-2023 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingPriest2 (Post 16925518)
Are you allowing a grown guy controll how you feel? lol

Who cares what he said! lol


Does his opinion really matter what he says?

The irony in your response....:)

Chris Meck 04-29-2023 09:32 AM

Do you take a swing on Adewore 's freaky athleticism? I mean, a 4.49 at 280 pounds?!

The Franchise 04-29-2023 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16925471)
Might flip a pick for swift

Sure. But only if we can flip CEH for a pick at the same time.

Mosbonian 04-29-2023 09:36 AM

Are there any TE's left on the board that are worth taking a chance on?

old_geezer 04-29-2023 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 16925499)
I don't know if anyone has discussed McCourty"s remarks last night....but I found them silly and self serving.

I found them amusing. It's become common for players or fans of a team to get on stage and goad their rivals. Just remember it's usually in good fun (see Kyle Brandt last year). I've watched McCourty on Good Morning Football and he seems like a great dude. Just harmless fun IMO.

FANATIC 04-29-2023 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 16925554)
Are there any TE's left on the board that are worth taking a chance on?

I think Gray has shown he can produce. He just does not get many chances. So I am not sure KC is thinking TE?

The Franchise 04-29-2023 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16925546)
Do you take a swing on Adewore 's freaky athleticism? I mean, a 4.49 at 280 pounds?!

Maybe but I just don’t know where you play him.

Mosbonian 04-29-2023 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by old_geezer (Post 16925559)
I found them amusing. It's become common for players or fans of a team to get on stage and goad their rivals. Just remember it's usually in good fun (see Kyle Brandt last year). I've watched McCourty on Good Morning Football and he seems like a great dude. Just harmless fun IMO.

The BBQ comment was just a throw away remark....it's much the same sentiment I express to the locals when they try to compare what passes for BBQ here in Florida.

Just found his remarks about that game silly

JPH83 04-29-2023 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 16925554)
Are there any TE's left on the board that are worth taking a chance on?

Combine hero Kuntz? He'll go before us I bet, someone will take a shot on that. I'd say DT is the pick because it's the real glaring need, but if Ojomo, Coburn, Roy are gone I might hold off and just swing later. Particularly if there are better guys left at other non-premium positions. If there's a half-decent DT, grab them, UNLESS the BPA is obviously significantly better - there's a few CBs and a couple of safeties and WRs I might take before an OK DT

Raiderhater 04-29-2023 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 16925499)
I don't know if anyone has discussed McCourty"s remarks last night....but I found them silly and self serving.

There really isn’t anything to discuss, he was being an attention whoring douche. I mean yeah, if you’re there in person you boo him out of principal, but otherwise, why give him the time of day that he’s obviously seeking?

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-29-2023 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FANATIC (Post 16925562)
I think Gray has shown he can produce. He just does not get many chances. So I am not sure KC is thinking TE?

Has anybody noticed the resemblance Gray is showing of Kelce. He's made several catches last year that I thought it was Kelce initially. Just the way he catches with his hands and body movement. I think he just needs opportunity to show out.

Chris Meck 04-29-2023 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16925566)
Maybe but I just don’t know where you play him.

Well, I mean, he's bigger and faster than Kancey.

JPH83 04-29-2023 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 16925588)
Has anybody noticed the resemblance Gray is showing of Kelce. He's made several catches last year that I thought it was Kelce initially. Just the way he catches with his hands and body movement. I think he just needs opportunity to show out.

If I'm honest I really, really don't get the Gray hype. I think he's been perfectly solid for a 5th rounder but nothing more. Would love him to break out and to be honest I could possibly see it given TEs take time...but there's just nothing he has or does that makes me see it.

The Franchise 04-29-2023 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16925592)
Well, I mean, he's bigger and faster than Kancey.

There has to be a reason that no one is taking him.

FANATIC 04-29-2023 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16925593)
If I'm honest I really, really don't get the Gray hype. I think he's been perfectly solid for a 5th rounder but nothing more. Would love him to break out and to be honest I could possibly see it given TEs take time...but there's just nothing he has or does that makes me see it.

He has had very limited opportunity. PM has lots of other weapons. He may get more this season. He looks good to me.

Chris Meck 04-29-2023 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16925593)
If I'm honest I really, really don't get the Gray hype. I think he's been perfectly solid for a 5th rounder but nothing more. Would love him to break out and to be honest I could possibly see it given TEs take time...but there's just nothing he has or does that makes me see it.

Well, he plays on a team with Travis Kelce.

even in the multiple TE sets, he's not going to get the first look with a hall of famer across from him.

When he IS targeted, he looks just fine to me.

FANATIC 04-29-2023 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16925600)
Well, he plays on a team with Travis Kelce.

even in the multiple TE sets, he's not going to get the first look with a hall of famer across from him.

When he IS targeted, he looks just fine to me.

Agree! Gray is a guy another team may jump on when he is a free agent.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:59 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.