Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5519622)

Look who was doing the picking
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Originally Posted by baitism (Post 5519414)

I don't think so. Look at it this way. If we draft a qb we have:

1. No running game
2. Mediocre offensive line
3. One decent receiver (who has alot of drops), and tony g (who might be gone)
4. A defensive line that just set a record for least number of sacks in a seaons
5. Brutal and old linebackers

You could draft the best qb to come of college in 10 years and he would be a bust with that kind of offense. There are no weapons, and you cannot expect a rookie qb to make perfect throws because their receivers can only get a half step of separation. Moreover, they will end up forcing it and throwing INTs. Also, neither of them are great runners...

A good defense can put offenses in a favorable position (TO's, 3 and outs, etc.). That will help a poor offense.

Bottomline, if we want to draft a qb, trade down. One, if not both, of those qb's will be there by pick 10.

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5519466)

There are very few interweb draft sites that know anything, and if you're even bothering with sites like the one you just posted from, you don't know what they are.

Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5519629)

Please God, for the entertainment value alone, let them pick anything but a qb.
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Originally Posted by Crush (Post 5519562)

Picking the "safest" choice has done nothing this team in the last twenty years.

Originally Posted by Rigodan (Post 5519599)

I posted this in another thread earlier this year:

There are a lot of really good teams that don't win a Superbowl every year. Look at the Pats last year. Possibly one of the greatest teams of all time and they lost. Look at the Steelers and Giants when they won and the Cardinals this year. Crazy stuff happens in the playoffs. For the Chiefs to win the Superbowl they're probably going to need more than one shot at it with a really good team because of the nature of the playoffs. Teams that are consistently in playoffs with good teams every year have one thing in common. They have great quaterbacks. Patriots/Brady, Colts/Manning, Steelers/Roethlisberger, Chargers/Brees/Rivers, earlier in the deacade you had Eagles/McNabb(before he couldn't decide whether to care or not).

You can also look at the great defenses this decade that didn't have franchise qbs. Baltimore and tampa bay for example. From 2003 to 2007 they finished in the top 6 in total defense every year except for Tampa Bay in 2006. Without a good quarterback those great defenses had a regular season record of 79-81, made the playoffs 4 out of 10 times and won ZERO playoff games. To repeat those defenses finished in the top 6 nine out of ten years and won 0 playoff games.

Sure we could build the defense, hope to get a qb later, and pray to god that everything falls into place like it did for Trent Dilfer. Sure it could happen, but its not likely.

Originally Posted by baitism (Post 5519625)

... Suffered a dislocated left knee cap prior to the season opener and his mobility was limited.

Right off nfl.com

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/...e-tab-analysis

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5519637)

Adam Teicher posts on the forum ladies and gentlemen.

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 5519640)

Patriots have finished outside the top 10 defensively twice. Once was 2002, when they didn't make the playoffs. The other time was 2005, where the team went 10-6. So, the two worst seasons defensively were the two worst seasons record-wise. In the 3 Super Bowl winning years, the team was #6, #1 and #2 on defense.

The Colts with Manning are under .500 in the playoffs.

The Steelers 2 Super Bowl wins had defenses ranked #1 and #3.

The Eagles defenses since 2000 and early in the decade: #4, #2, #2, #7, #2, #27 (6-10)

Chargers: #11, #13, #7, #5, #15, and the only year they got to the AFCCG was the year with the best defense.

In order to be a consistently top tier team, you need both the offense AND the defense.

Originally Posted by Rigodan (Post 5519636)

Pioli also always had a great qb. Whos to say he won't pick one now that he doesn't have one?

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse (Post 5519635)

Um....the Steelers had the #1 defense in the league.

Originally Posted by baitism (Post 5519618)

Did you watch any USC football. He hobbled around half the damn year with a knee brace on.

For the record, I would really like to draft a qb, im not even arguing that. I just think we should trade down to draft one. I would rather get two first round picks and get a QB than one....

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5519647)

You're not getting 2 1st round picks and a QB, the only team with 2 is the Eagles and both of their picks are so late it wouldn't happen.

So how about you rethink that take and come back logically?

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5519641)

This is a great example of why reading shit on the net and actually watching a guy play are not the same thing.

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse (Post 5519635)

Um....the Steelers had the #1 defense in the league.