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You should know me much better by now. If I'm out to make a point, I'll make a point. I bypassed this in favor of answering your other question because it's kind of silly and pointless to compare both rosters, man by man. And in all honesty, I think the Chiefs have better coordinators and more talent on the whole than Detroit, outside of the QB position and the WR position. The Chiefs could easily win six this year. If the ball rolls their way, they could conceivably win eight. Now, there's virtually no chance they make the playoffs but if their personnel decisions are even 50% correct (TJ, Weignman, Lilja along with the draft), I find it very difficult to argue that this team isn't dramatically improved. They're not improved enough to challenge for the division title or a playoff spot, but they are improved. |
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Did you, or did you not expect a playoff run by Year Three when Pioli was hired? I'll gladly apologize if I'm wrong, but I recall you sharing a similar opinion to Me, Deez, Flopnuts, etc. |
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I've posted this list from the 2009 draft multiple times, and Hootie never responds to it:
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/image...s/viewpost.gif Yeah.. Sanchez--Obviously a terrible pick Beanie Wells--Another awful pick Cody Brown--Hurt his wrist in PS, spent the year on IR Coye Francies--Had a Donald Washington-esque year for the Browns. Jasper Brinkley--Starting for the Vikings David Bruton--Played the whole year for the Broncos Cornelius Lewis--That's a bust of a pick, no doubt Gerald Cadogan--Not a good pick Mike Goodson--Drafted by Carolina. Spent the year behind Stewart and Williams. Rhett Bomar--Giants 3rd/4th string QB as a rookie. Developmental player, that's notbad. DeAngelo-Smith. Backup safety for the Lions Terrance Knighton--45 tackles and 1.5 sacks as a rookie for the Jags. Was actually drafted in the 3rd round, got him in the 6th. Josh Mauga--7th round LB. Bounced back and forth on the Jets' PS Roy Miller--yth round DT who had 27 tackles and 2 sacks as a rookie. Was actually drafted in the 3rd round. Kenny McKinley--WR drafted in the 5th by the Broncos I got in the 7th. Saw some KR and ST action as a n00b. Brandon Tate--6th round pick for me, 3rd in reality. It's a pick you take and put him on IR b/c of his knee injury his Sr. Year. It'll pay off down the road. Thomas Morestead--Punter for the Saints. They took him in the 5th, I got him in the 6th for the Pats. Cary Harris--last pick for the Pats. He was drafted by the Bills in the 6th round. Had two picks as a rookie. Don Carey-7th round pick who actually went in the 6th. Plays for the Jags. Developmental player who spent the year on IR. Camerron Morrah-6th round pick by me who went in the 7th. Played the whole year for the Seahawks, but didn't see much time behind John Carlson. Bradley Fletcher--6th round player I picked who actually went in the third. Finished with 3 starts and 23 tackles as a rookie Robert Brewster--7th rounder that I got for the next to last pick in the draft. He was drafted in the 3rd round by Dallas, and projects to be their RTOTF. Brandon Swain--DII player I took as MR. Irrelevant. Never amounted to anything. So sue me. So please, tell me how terrible that draft is. 2008: Gholston--Looking like a monumental bust Nicks--One of the best young guards in football Cliff Avril--3rd Round pick, 10.5 sacks and 7 FF in two years Thomas DeCoud--Starter for the Falcons. 68 Tackles, 3 picks, 2 sacks, 2 FF last year Matt Forte--Should have been the OROY. 4th round pick Jonathan Goff-- Took over as starting MLB for the Giants last year Tyvon Branch--2 year starter for the Raiders. 124 tackles last year as a safety Those were my picks in the first four Rounds of the 2008 draft. Every one hit but Gholston. So please, tell me I don't know anything about projecting players. |
Hamas embarrasses himself every year in that mock draft...
every year... I think it's so funny that those guys watch one or two college football games per week, dodge this point every time, and then claim they know something based off of what they've seen...and won't admit they simply cherrypick the information from scouting services found on the internet and then decide what they want to roll with, and what they don't want to roll with based off of whether they like the guy with the information or not. I'd be willing to bet Hamas didn't watch Bruce Campbell play more than two times...and that's being generous... as he was bashing Charlie Casserly for saying Campbell looked bad on tape...acting like Casserly (the ballsy GM who took Mario Williams over Reggie Bush and was with Washington when they raped New Orleans in that Ricky Williams deal) doesn't know anything... the dude took a late round OT before Anthony freaking Davis... he passed on Bradford for a guy that ended up going 48th overall...at #1... he took Vernon Gholston #1 overall because of his combine numbers... that dude just needs to shut the **** up and start doing damage control... Actually I'll go on... He told me Peyton Manning's 1st half INT in the 2006 AFC Championship game (a game the Colts ended up winning) was more devastating to his team that game then Tom Brady's season ending INT in that same game, in Colts territory, where a TD sends the Pats to the Super Bowl. This is something he said... He also said Brett Favre COULDN'T POSSIBLY be the best player on the Vikings because Peyton Manning is a better QB than Brett Favre and Brett Favre plays on the same team as Kevin Williams. I know, right? |
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I was wrong and have voiced my concerns ad nauseam on this forum for the better part of 14 months. So in short, I do not believe that by year three, they'll be a consistent playoff team. It would be awesome IF it happens but at this point in time, I think it's going to be difficult. I would love, however, to be wrong. |
My boy Phillip Dillard will be replacing Goff at ILB.
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Some of us were championing Schwartz as the new HC of the Chiefs. He was hired at the same time as Pioli/Haley. Why is it silly to compare two teams that started over, both with next to nothing on their roster? I know that if I were trying to make the point that KC has done a better job over the past 15 months, I wouldn't want to compare the rosters either. This isn't a knock on you personally. You're my boy. But the overall tone of this place is EXACTLY like last year. Everyone hates the picks initially, (sans Berry and Asomoah) then begin to rationalize it because some pundits like it - instead of sticking to their opinion. It happened after the Cassel trade, it happened after last year's draft, and it happened this weekend. |
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you were blasting the McCluster and Arenas picks citing Gosselin's top 100...and conveniently ignoring the fact Moeaki was #48 and Asomoah was like #54... You cited a guy who gave us an A+ to prove your point on why our draft sucked. In other words... your and idiot |
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I even think last year as bad as this team was last year, they could've won 6 or 7 games. Only reason I say that, they blew 2 or 3 they should of won. And, if you think about it, lets say Charles started the whole season alone from game 1, I think just having him alone would of helped us win a couple of more games. LJ sucked so bad, and he was clearly a big reason why this team and offense was atrocious from the start. As soon as the Chiefs released him and Charles started, they were a bit of a different team. *I think they could win 7 this year. You're right not improved enough to challenge for a playoff spot. I think they will though once they improve the defense. |
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One of these days I'm going to have to look through the mocks to see how I've done picking players. I've honestly never bothered.
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