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SnakeXJones 01-26-2013 06:06 PM

I guess im only one like that Shields for Myers trade everybody going apeshit over someone hasn't proved themselves

Dr. Johnny Fever 01-26-2013 06:10 PM

nut?

I'm OK with the trade too btw.

Fansy the Famous Bard 01-28-2013 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SnakeXJones (Post 9353675)
I guess im only one like that Shields for Myers trade everybody going apeshit over someone hasn't proved themselves

http://typophile.com/files/ringoCaveman_3729.JPG

Cephalic Trauma 01-28-2013 05:51 PM

Why not kelly johnson over Chris getz, assuming the money is close to the same? More power, less suck, same money.

MeatRock 01-28-2013 05:52 PM

It's a better trade if we can sign Shields to an extension. Then i could be ok with it, of course Shields has to perform like he did with the Rays or better.

Prison Bitch 01-28-2013 06:47 PM

I wouldn't extend Shields unless he looks phenomenal. WAde Davis will determine how successful the trade ends up IMO

Cephalic Trauma 01-28-2013 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9359429)
I wouldn't extend Shields unless he looks phenomenal. WAde Davis will determine how successful the trade ends up IMO

Then, in your scenario, we won't be extending him.

BlackHelicopters 01-28-2013 07:16 PM

GMDM got fleeced.

Chris Meck 01-28-2013 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9359513)
GMDM got fleeced.

Listen I get that lots of people hate that trade. My stepdad has sworn the team off, after sticking with them since day one, 1969.

Anyone trading for frontline starting pitching has to give up a LOT in return. It's just the reality. Nothing is worth as much as quality starting pitching.

Whether we have Myers in right or Francouer, we're not doing shit without quality starting pitching. Nothing else really matters (okay, I exaggerate. But only by a little. Starting pitching is to MLB like QB is to NFL).
Just ask San Fransisco.

Shogun 01-28-2013 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 9359256)
Why not kelly johnson over Chris getz, assuming the money is close to the same? More power, less suck, same money.

Because Chris Getz will always hit FOR MORE POWER

NO ONE GETZ SHOULD HAVE ALL THAT POWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWER

Ceej 01-28-2013 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 9359569)
Because Chris Getz will always hit FOR MORE POWER

NO ONE GETZ SHOULD HAVE ALL THAT POWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWER


I bet if Chris Getz he would actually be Terry Crews.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dTvtFp_iPKc

Strongside 01-28-2013 07:44 PM

If we are winning we'll see how many people even remember that we traded Wil Myers.

MeatRock 01-28-2013 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9359513)
GMDM got fleeced.

Yea, i think that's bullshit. I don't think Odo is top of the rotation quality first of all. Second, yea we gave up Myers, which sucks, but you got to give to get.

Shields is a top of the rotation starter and i think Davis has more upside than Odo. We didn't get fleeced, although i do understand the frustration in giving up a potential run producing RFer, when we trot out Frenchy every game.

SAUTO 01-28-2013 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9359589)
If we are winning we'll see how many people even remember that we traded Wil Myers.

Never forget.
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Wilson8 01-28-2013 09:04 PM

Rany's latest has an amusing section on Scott Pioli...

I’m fairly certain that I have not despised anyone in Kansas City sports history the way I despised Scott Pioli at the end. You can be an insufferable tyrant and fans will still respect you, if you win. You can be an incompetent fool and fans will still like you, if you’re a nice guy. But Lord have mercy, you can not be both. Pioli terrorized players and employees alike, while drafting Tyson Jackson with the #3 overall pick and sticking with Matt Cassel as his quarterback to the bitter end.

And I’ve never been happier to see one of my teams crap the bed than to see the Chiefs go 2-14 in 2012. I’m not an NFL expert, so I don’t have a strong opinion one way or the other on whether the Andy Reid-John Dorsey combination will work. As a fan, I’m happy to give them the benefit of the doubt. Even if I did the same thing with Pioli four years ago.

There are certainly similarities between Pioli and Moore. Both were widely considered to be the most promising GM candidate in their sport when they were brought to Kansas City in the span of little more than two years, and given a mandate by ownership to do whatever it took to build a winner. For the first time in my lifetime, there was a sense that both the Chiefs and the Royals were pointed in the right direction.

Not so much. On the field, Moore has had even less success than Pioli, who managed to squeak the Chiefs into the playoffs one year thanks to a weak AFC West. But the difference is this: when Pioli axed, he left the Chiefs in as poor a condition as he inherited them, if not more so. They still don’t have a quarterback. Virtually every one of their most talented players today was already in the organization when he was hired. Four years after Pioli was hired to build an organization from scratch, his successors have to do the same thing.

If nothing else, in nearly seven years on the job Dayton Moore has completed one of the most time-consuming tasks in sports: he’s turned one of the weakest farm systems in baseball into one of its perennially strongest. The Royals had essentially no footprint in Latin America whatsoever when he was hired; they have one of the most fertile Latin American pipelines in the game today. Even if Moore’s gamble backfires, and he gets fired sometime in 2013, he will have left the organization in substantially better shape than he found it. The mere fact that a .500 season would put his job on the hot seat is testament to that.

(It’s also worth pointing out that unlike Pioli, I’ve heard only good things about Moore as a person. It’s probably not a coincidence that while the Chiefs were a revolving door of personnel for the last four years, very few members of the Royals’ player development staff have left the organization since Moore was hired. And Trey Hillman never showed up for work looking like a hobo.)

You can read the rest of Rany's post at - http://www.ranyontheroyals.com/


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