So is the PS system issue game specific or just a system issue?

Mine runs fine but BF4 seems all ****ed up. I was finally able to get online but the campaign has deleted it self twice now and I'm not sure if I want to replay it.

Every time I try to open Warframe my system crashes.

Everything else works fine. Need for Speed, Killzone, Resogun and Contrast.

ROFL It must be that extra 50% of power that's making them fail.

DICE, the company that made Battlefield was attacked so their online servers have been messed up on alot of platforms. It's not your PS4 when it comes to BF.

With the XBox One games, once a title on Microsoft Store isn't available for Pre-Order anymore the $10 gift card promotion goes away. So titles whose street dates have released don't have the promotion. The only X1 titles you can get the gift card on are the ones that come out on Friday and beyond i.e. Dead Rising 3, Forza, Ryse, etc.

Toys R Us seems to be the only deal come Friday for X1 games. Even though the street dates have hit for CoD, BF, EA sports titles, and Assassin's Creed, they're not selling anything till Friday. They're holding all their stock and the Buy 3 Get a $50 Gift Card starts Friday when the system launches in their stores. This sucks on a few levels, everyone else is selling these titles now, Toys R Us is the only one holding them back. Also you have to go into the store to get the deal, no online or pre orders allowed, so you have to deal with the crowds on Friday to get the deal. It sucks because it should be an all week thing, but for some reason they want to overpack their stores and force people to deal with the launch. Microsoft is also to blame because everyone I talk to says that it's them who is saying No Deals on their games, not the retailers, and that's why you had better deals on PS4 titles. Sucks.

Interesting article floating around the net today---it costs Sony $381 to build a PS4:

http://allthingsd.com/20131119/teard...-381-to-build/

Sony had a similiar pricing strategy for the PS3, so I reckon the PS4 is going to be at that price for awhile, until manufacturing costs come down.

Why would anyone be a message board know it all doiche anymore?

I'm going to get COD or BF4. Just want to know if they are an upgrade.

I'm getting a "xbone" too just so you can virtually bleed out your vag some more.

WTF is wrong with you? I don't give a shit which console you get.

Personally, I think that COD has made no improvements since MW2 and it just seems like the same stale game over and over. Just like Madden.

http://kotaku.com/still-looking-to-s...azo-1467877577

Limited Supply of Xbox One units being sold on Amazon tomorrow morning at 8 AM ET. Depends if you want to go through Amazon after the packing problems they apparently had with some on the PS4. Just a heads up.

It seems to have fixed a lot of the lag and hit marker issues. When I shoot someone it actually shoots them now.

Never understood the amazon thing with launch consoles. Just preorder it with gamestop. You don't have to have it shipped and take the chance with packaging.

I order pretty much everything from Amazon and I've never had an issue.

Ya I'm sure. Just curious though how you can sell such a sought after console and **** the shipping up so bad

I'm just as curious. The whole thing is weird.

I buy all my consoles NEW at Gamestop. It is just easier and more reliable.

I'm just ****ing with you guy.

I know how people feel about COD but since I havent played one in 3 years I'm interested to hear some opinions.

Don't take anything I say too seriously.

Yep, i use prime like crazy and have pretty much stopped going to best buy gamestop etc. I've never had any issue with Amazon or their marketplace/3rd party sellers.