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bigjosh 01-07-2018 10:32 PM

And hopefully they will replace the shit bag defensive coordinator while they are at it.

DRM08 01-07-2018 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 13344736)
9 wins is "sunshine pumping" ?

This team is going to benefit huge from addition by subtraction.
-Hali
-DJ
-Smith
-Revis
-Bailey

30M to play with to add a couple mid to high end fat guys and or a nice CB opposite of 22.

This team will be more well rounded when they arent paying players top dollar 5 years past their prime.

Pugs said the GM will kick ass in the offseason and they will be a really good team in 2018. I don't think 9 wins is a really good team. That's barely above .500 record.

bigjosh 01-07-2018 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 13344738)
I’d take DJ back in a backup role

He has a 10.25M cap hit next year. There is no way he is staying.

FloridaMan88 01-07-2018 10:34 PM

Eric Berry... even if he isn’t at full strength is an instant upgrade over Sorensen, which is an immediate improvement to the defense before any other moves are made.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-07-2018 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 13344746)
Eric Berry... even if he isn’t at full strength is an instant upgrade over Sorensen, which is an immediate improvement to the defense before any other moves are made.

EB is the x-factor. Shuts down TEs unlike any safety can. Ultimate leader.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-07-2018 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 13344744)
He has a 10.25M cap hit next year. There is no way he is staying.

Not for that price but if he'd play for a million, I'd keep him as a backup.

okcchief 01-07-2018 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 13344744)
He has a 10.25M cap hit next year. There is no way he is staying.



He could come back at a lower much lower number.


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bigjosh 01-07-2018 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 13344743)
Pugs said the GM will kick ass in the offseason and they will be a really good team in 2018. I don't think 9 wins is a really good team. That's barely above .500 record.

He was agreeing with my comment, I thought you were directing that at my comment as well. I did say at least 9 wins. It is not over the top to think this team will be better than last year just by getting Berry healthy replacing the aging under achievers with able bodied guys in the trenches.

bigjosh 01-07-2018 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by okcchief (Post 13344755)
He could come back at a lower much lower number.


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That requires adding years to his contract.

If you cut him He is already going to count for 2.5M against the cap. If they resign him he will be paid 2.5M plus whatever his new contract is.

DJs time here is done, just like Hali, and Jamaal. I love the guys too, but when you gotta let go, you gotta let go man.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-07-2018 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 13344743)
Pugs said the GM will kick ass in the offseason and they will be a really good team in 2018. I don't think 9 wins is a really good team. That's barely above .500 record.

I homered out quite a bit there, I know. But I do believe they can be really good in '18. They just have to make good, sensible moves. The pieces are already in place on offense for the most part to be an elite unit. The defense is not completely talentless itself. I think the majority of their problems are tied to scheme.

oldman 01-07-2018 10:44 PM

Don't get me wrong, Smith was the right QB at the time to bring this franchise immediate respectability. When your QB stable features such stalwarts as Cassel, Quinn, Stanzi, and the never to be remembered Alex Tanney , the draft class featured such luminaries as Manuel, Barkley, Glennon, and fan fav Geno, you take the chance on A. Smith. And it worked, sort of. You can't deny 5 straight winning seasons. But you also can't deny a playoff record of 1-4. It's like being the Homecoming King and the Queen is your cousin who's trans.
Nope, it's time to move on. It does absolutely no good to keep Smith next year. Regardless whether we trade him or cut him, we have $20M in our pocket to upgrade our D and LG. Mahomes isn't going to learn anything more sitting on the bench. I'm sure he'll throw away a couple games next year and we might even have a losing season. But I'm awfully tired of seeing games pissed away because we don't move the chains in the 2nd half.

Chief Northman 01-07-2018 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13344768)
I homered out quite a bit there, I know. But I do believe they can be really good in '18. They just have to make good, sensible moves. The pieces are already in place on offense for the most part to be an elite unit. The defense is not completely talentless itself. I think the majority of their problems are tied to scheme.

I think the offense can be dangerous with Mahomes. Add another TE or WR threat to take a bit of pressure off Kelce/Hill and lookout. Ware coming back will also help the run game.

I disagree with you on the defense though. They are soft. No tacklers at any level save for Ragland and Berry. Can we count on Berry to be available? Will there be competence opposite Houston? Will Peters check out with effort when the team inevitably loses some games? Will speed be addressed at the safety spots? Will the d-line be stout enough to get pressure with four?

Scheme and personnel are major issues for this team that I can’t see getting fixed overnight. A respected coordinator who can get the players to sell out is needed. I don’t think Sutton is that guy, and I also don’t know who should be the next guy - he needs to be a proper talent evaluator, motivater and tactician who can adjust to opponents. I hope Reid can find another Jim Johnson, and soon....

pugsnotdrugs19 01-07-2018 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 13344796)
I think the offense can be dangerous with Mahomes. Add another TE or WR threat to take a bit of pressure off Kelce/Hill and lookout. Ware coming back will also help the run game.

I disagree with you on the defense though. They are soft. No tacklers at any level save for Ragland and Berry. Can we count on Berry to be available? Will there be competence opposite Houston? Will Peters check out with effort when the team inevitably loses some games? Will speed be addressed at the safety spots? Will the d-line be stout enough to get pressure with four?

Scheme and personnel are major issues for this team that I can’t see getting fixed overnight. A respected coordinator who can get the players to sell out is needed. I don’t think Sutton is that guy, and I also don’t know who should be the next guy - he needs to be a proper talent evaluator, motivater and tactician who can adjust to opponents. I hope Reid can find another Jim Johnson, and soon....

I agree with all of that. If we don't replace Sutton, I won't have confidence in seeing the defense turn around. I do however think that they can fix the majority of the personnel issues though with the cap space and draft picks, given that they shouldn't need to do much with the offense.

bigjosh 01-07-2018 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 13344796)
I think the offense can be dangerous with Mahomes. Add another TE or WR threat to take a bit of pressure off Kelce/Hill and lookout. Ware coming back will also help the run game.

I disagree with you on the defense though. They are soft. No tacklers at any level save for Ragland and Berry. Can we count on Berry to be available? Will there be competence opposite Houston? Will Peters check out with effort when the team inevitably loses some games? Will speed be addressed at the safety spots? Will the d-line be stout enough to get pressure with four?

Scheme and personnel are major issues for this team that I can’t see getting fixed overnight. A respected coordinator who can get the players to sell out is needed. I don’t think Sutton is that guy, and I also don’t know who should be the next guy - he needs to be a proper talent evaluator, motivater and tactician who can adjust to opponents. I hope Reid can find another Jim Johnson, and soon....

I think Tanoh showed a little promise. He was a bigger project than 15 was, coming from a dump college. Ragland may turn out to be one of the biggest steals this team has pulled off.

This team needs to invest in the Dline and safety positions hard.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-07-2018 11:10 PM

Tanoh has a lot of work to do. He is nowhere on the wavelength of being the next Ansah if we are going off of W17 film


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