I just don't know how you can call a 5'9'' dude a possession receiver. You've gotta be so damn precise with a guy that has that kind of catch radius.

That's just too much draft capital for a guy who I think is limited to a Y receiver kind of role.

If Hill isn't a Chiefs or they think he won't be in August, that calculus may change a little though no?

I absolutely agree.

Like I told O.city, it's not my first choice. But I prefer Isabella over trading up or taking someone in the first.

Ideally, they'd not take a WR until the 3rd, where one of the guys you mentioned would be there. That's better value.

Well, if the Hill thing has legs, there's not very damn much that can be done about it, huh? That's the issue. It's not like they're saying they just don't want to pay him or something. It really isn't in the Chiefs hands until the investigation is complete. They can't sit on their hands and pass up opportunities, even if it is putting a band-aid on a great white bite.

Hugely so.

Losing Hill would be crushing for this offense. It's just like people saying "we don't need a C, we have Mahomes...."

I mean we cannot just keep piling more and more shit on this kid. Sooner or later you will hit a tipping point where he's either struggling to make the play or taking bigger and bigger hits to pull them off.

Losing Hill would be brutal and I think it would take the Super Bowl off the table. There's no way to hand waive what he adds to this offense. You remove the Z receiver from Reid's offense and you damn near have to scrap it. It's especially damaging when you can't trust Watkins to play more than 8-10 games.

It definitely sucks ass holes
Lots of them

Not really.

If Hill's not a Chief, you're gonna have to go to the drawing board and win a completely different way. The 2018 Chiefs offense as we knew it, the high-flying, 50 TD, 5,000 Yard, big play waiting to happen offense will be dead.

You're gonna have to learn to play a more conventional and sadly, conservative style. You're gonna have to try to play more complementary football.

You can use a 3rd rounder on a replacement X prospect and hope Watkins can give you some solid production at the Z when he's healthy (with Robinson likely your X for most of the year anyway), but that's just a standard deviation removed from where we were.

You're gonna need the first 3 picks to figure out how best to effectuate your plan B. Be that beefing up your OL to buy more time for diminished weapons to get open or a TE to play more 12 personnel. Or DL/Secondary to lean more heavily on your defense. Plan B gets the majority of your draft capital at that point, not attempting to salvage Plan A. Plan A is at the bottom of the North Atlantic and it ain't coming back...

It would suuuuuuuck.

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Mecole Hardman.

He’s more Tyler Lockett, but man can that kid fly. He’d be excellent insurance for Hill and you might be able to get him in rd 3. Wouldn’t be opposed to taking him at 63.

That would be my choice but I doubt you’re getting much from him in year 1

I doubt you're getting much from anybody in year 1.

It's not perfect by any means....but we'd have Watkins, Robinson and Pringle....unless they brought in a mid-tier FA.

Yes it would suck. But it isn't the end of the world. Geez...

No it isn't, but you can't continue to pursue the same plan with a lesser piece.

You gotta pursue better pieces for a different plan at that point. And if Mecole Hardman comes in and pulls a Hill while Watkins gives you 16 games as a viable Z, then hey - you're in business.

But I think both of those are so unlikely that you're in a 'prepare for the worst and hope for the best' mode. You change directions at that point and if you get lucky, then hey - the offense is still great AND you've beefed up elsehwere.

I don't disagree with that. They can't do what Andy did in Phily, that's for sure. He kept trying to get WR's when it was clear it wasn't working. He really never did move on to Plan B and that's what killed him.

Gary is one that I REALLY don't like.

That guy has underwear champion written all over him. I mean I don't want to put too fine a point on this, but the guy just kinda sucked in college.

Maybe someone has a reason for that but I sure don't. If they give up an additional 2nd day pick (or god help us, a 1st rounder next year) to move up for that guy, I'd be pretty pissed off.

I'd take Ferrell over Gary without question. I'd at least consider Sweat over Ferrell because the production and measurables are there, for the most part. Gary, OTOH, could amount to precisely dick in this league because there's a reason he was a virtual non-factor in Ann Arbor.