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TEX 04-24-2010 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 6708502)
Ok, here it is:

We wanted a playmaker on offense. I can see that. I agreed. Hell, I was begging to draft one at WR.

We didn't. We took a guy who's a solid pass catching HB that we HOPE can make the transition to WR with 2A.

Really? With all the talent sitting there we think a HB moved to Wide ****ing reciever is the best move!?!

This. :shake:

Coach 04-24-2010 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 6708530)
Take what you have, use them the best you can, and win the ****ing game.

THE END.

I don't want to hear this next season or rebuilding or we're saving this guy for.....**** you, WIN THE GAME.

EVERY WEEK.

Then you run the risk of wearing out Charles, as the same thing happened under Dante, when his responsibilities grew as a slot receiver, his return game declined becuase of it. If the Chiefs gave Charles more work, he would get tired out at the end of the season, and possibly injure himself, as he is somewhat a liability on that.

Remember Devin Hester, the CB turned into a WR/KO/PR for the Bears, after one successful season as a KR/PR, the Bears expaned his role as a WR, and his return game declined becuase of it.

So why not add more, and use them the best you can and win the game as well?

I'm not going to say next season or rebuilding, becuase I ain't gonna do that.

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 6708530)
Definitely.

I just threw out the idea that we might spend a late pick on a phat-back. We didn't, we tossed an early pick at a hopeful playmaker.

I can't fault them for that either. I really can't fault them for that when I'm not at all sure what it is our new OC is even trying to build.

Hell, guy's only been on the job for 3 or 4 months and 0 games...

Well, at least give credit due, that they didn't pick a Joe Somebody, a FB, from Notworthashitcollege in the 2nd round.

BossChief 04-24-2010 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6708199)
Uh it's a valid point, you think Welker puts anything up remotely close to what he does if he's not playing with Randy Moss?

he had the exact same YPC in Miami as he had in NE.

NO difference.

His amount of catches (as well as targets) went up because he was properly evaluated and matched with a real quarterback to get him the ball.
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6708223)
Everyone's pro day numbers are inflated by .15 seconds.

You are one of my favorite posters, but I remember you claiming to no end that all combine times have .15 added to them because of the track when you were backing Taylor Mays...now that you are taking the opposite side of the argument, that changed evidently?

I dont see how anyone can watch the guy play and think he has any speed issues.

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6708379)
:facepalm:

No the point is usually these guys have red flags as to why it won't translate, stupid teams over look those flags.

What red flags are you talking about?

Philly was gonna take him right after us and they have done a great job of evaluating guys like him.

Deshaun Jackson, Maclin, Shady...
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6708428)
Nevermind, I can't argue with people that are to stupid to understand the point.

"too stupid"

funny that you had a post earlier in this thread talking about how you dont like how someone is condescending towards other posters...then a few pages later you shit out this post.

...

You know what I want to see?

The reactions to the pick if we take Cody at 2a...I can almost guarantee you that it would be something like this...

"look at the fat pos we got when a team that knows what the **** is up takes a ****ING PLAYMAKER right after us"

I also think its ****ing hilarious that all the same posters that participated in that "gauge your level of draft anger if ______was picked at 5 if we passed on Berry" and claimed that they would be ecstatic with Spiller, evidently hate the Dexter pick at 2a...that just doesn't make much sense.

...

You know what else I want to see?

Our reactions to the pick if we liked Cassel and didn't value Clausen so highly...

...

Anyone that says that Moeaki cant block hasn't watched a single Iowa game. Not one.

Moeaki finds the open spot in the zones, runs good routes, has glue for hands, is a leader, plays big in big games, is clutch as a MFer, is not only willing but VERY effective in the run game as a edge blocker, the guy would be a borderline first-mid second if he had a good injury history.

I can guarantee you all that this kid will be a favorite on the board if he can stay healthy.

nascher 04-24-2010 07:26 AM

Philadelphia would have taken MCCluster at 37.

Hootie 04-24-2010 07:34 AM

it is hilarious that our guru gang was so pissed off yesterday...

after I did some research I REALLY liked our 2nd round picks...and after I saw Clausen fall to 48 it was clear that NFL personnel didn't have him rated highly as a prospect.

ILChief 04-24-2010 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon (Post 6708658)
it is hilarious that our guru gang was so pissed off yesterday...

after I did some research I REALLY liked our 2nd round picks...and after I saw Clausen fall to 48 it was clear that NFL personnel didn't have him rated highly as a prospect.

with our wanna be Kipers, if the Cheifs don't pick exactly who they want, it's a terrible pick.

notorious 04-24-2010 07:41 AM

Don't worry, we got some high character guys that have skills.


At least we can watch their progress and be proud of things when we start winning again.

SenselessChiefsFan 04-24-2010 07:46 AM

The reality is that the 'geniuses' in here are blasting the pick and will continue to blast the pick because it shows just how little the know about the draft. Had any of them been smart enough to even mention McCluster, they would all be talking about what a player he will be in the Wes Welker mode. These guys didn't even know who he was.

I see that some are saying he is a project. Funny stuff really. He has been doing what he will be asked to do for a few years. Frankly, he carried the offense for the last few years. He will step right in.

Everyone talks about how this pick is to make Cassel look good. The Pats didn't add Wes Welker for Cassel, they added him for Tom Brady. And, for those that don't know.... that is when the offense really took off. And, I realize that Moss is there too.... so it was a combination, but no one can argue that Wes Welker doesn't make a huge impact.

Anyways, of course the 'experts' are going to bash it because no one can claim they were right... and we all know how important that is around here.

milkman 04-24-2010 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon (Post 6708658)
it is hilarious that our guru gang was so pissed off yesterday...

after I did some research I REALLY liked our 2nd round picks...and after I saw Clausen fall to 48 it was clear that NFL personnel didn't have him rated highly as a prospect.

How ****ing difficult is it to understand that you should be finding starters, full time players, in the second round, not part time specialty players.

Dexter McCluster is a hell of a player.
He's a guy that can make some game breaking plays.

But he's a part time player drafted in the second round on a team that has more holes than you have brains.

Okay, bad analogy.

One hole is more.

milkman 04-24-2010 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 6708671)
The reality is that the 'geniuses' in here are blasting the pick and will continue to blast the pick because it shows just how little the know about the draft. Had any of them been smart enough to even mention McCluster, they would all be talking about what a player he will be in the Wes Welker mode. These guys didn't even know who he was.

I see that some are saying he is a project. Funny stuff really. He has been doing what he will be asked to do for a few years. Frankly, he carried the offense for the last few years. He will step right in.

Everyone talks about how this pick is to make Cassel look good. The Pats didn't add Wes Welker for Cassel, they added him for Tom Brady. And, for those that don't know.... that is when the offense really took off. And, I realize that Moss is there too.... so it was a combination, but no one can argue that Wes Welker doesn't make a huge impact.

Anyways, of course the 'experts' are going to bash it because no one can claim they were right... and we all know how important that is around here.

Dexter McCluster has been talked about around here.

He's a part time ****ing player you dumb****.

notorious 04-24-2010 07:50 AM

We needed playmakers badly, and boy did we get some.

I am afraid a lot of people suffered from tunnel vision on this board. I could definately be classified as one of those people. About every position needed to upgraded, so the Chiefs picked the best available player.


Isn't that what most of them preached?

Hootie 04-24-2010 07:50 AM

dude...

hamas took Clausen #1 overall and Bruce Campbell in the 1st round...

These know-it-alls don't know anything more than anyone who even casually follows the draft...

they latch on to whatever they've cherrypicked over the last few months and then whenever something doesn't go their way they spend the next four months bitching about it...

seriously...

mecca and hamas left the board for an extended period after the draft last year because everyone was tired of their bitching...

well look what happened...

they are doing it all over again!

they are little ****ing crybaby bitches that ruin draft weekend every ****ing year

Hootie 04-24-2010 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6708674)
How ****ing difficult is it to understand that you should be finding starters, full time players, in the second round, not part time specialty players.

Dexter McCluster is a hell of a player.
He's a guy that can make some game breaking plays.

But he's a part time player drafted in the second round on a team that has more holes than you have brains.

Okay, bad analogy.

One hole is more.

well I think McCluster and Arenas are going to be great players who make tremendous impact for the Chiefs next year.

and so does everyone else...not named Hamas/Mecca or one of their lackeys...

but like I said...

hamas and his draft track record aren't exactly something to look up to...and mecca spends every draft weekend every year incorrectly guessing every teams pick in the main thread...

those guys don't know anything...as evidenced by their posts every single year

Hootie 04-24-2010 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6708358)
Ah Hootie is here to call people idiots, reminds me of last year.

Tyson Jackson made you look brilliant didn't he?

I was never once happy about the Tyson Jackson pick...

but I didn't let it ruin my life like you ****ing idiots...

can you please disappear for two months after the draft like last year? Or is your jobless, 29 year old live at mom and dad's life too depressing where you need ChiefsPlanet to feel important?

milkman 04-24-2010 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon (Post 6708681)
well I think McCluster and Arenas are going to be great players who make tremendous impact for the Chiefs next year.

and so does everyone else...not named Hamas/Mecca or one of their lackeys...

but like I said...

hamas and his draft track record aren't exactly something to look up to...and mecca spends every draft weekend every year incorrectly guessing every teams pick in the main thread...

those guys don't know anything...as evidenced by their posts every single year

How do you feel about Tyson Jackson, Matt Cassel, Mike Vrabel, Donald Washington, Colin Brown and that useless TE drafted late last year?

How about the guys they picked up later, like O'Callaghan, Long, Wade, etc, etc.

Tell me one thing that Pioli did last year that has proven those guys wrong.

Hell, after we traded for Cassel, I watched every Patriot replay on the NFLN to find positives about that guy, and talked about it a lot, because I wanted to try to have a more positive outlook.

The fact is, to this point, almost every decision that Pioli has made has been absolute crap.


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