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OnTheWarpath15 04-25-2010 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 6714696)
NO...You are a pathetic person if this is where you're taking this.....I've read negative BS about this all day....It's invalid....

PhilFree:arrow:
I'm pathetic Phil?

The coward claims I know nothing about football.

I simply asked him to poll the people. If I'm the football idiot he says I am, it shouldn't be an issue.

You understand the concept of standing behind your claims, don't you Phil?

You wouldn't make false accusations, just to troll the board, and then hide behind your keyboard when called on it, would you?

I don't think you would, Phil, because you appear to have some integrity.

I'm just asking him to be a man, and stand behind his comment.

Mr. Flopnuts 04-25-2010 10:17 PM
And in today's NFL it doesn't matter how devoid your roster is of talent. It's not a 5 year process anymore. It's from 1-3 tops in my humble opinion.

That said, I'm still firmly on the 8-8 or GTFO band wagon.

Hootie 04-25-2010 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6714717)
2009 is not good...especially since you took Sanchez when the team already spent a high 2nd on Cassel...****ing moron of a pick...

Beanie Wells is a good, yet obvious pick. When you take a RB early, he better be good.

Other than that...I see NOTHING that makes me think, "wow, I'd sure love to have that player on KC!"

and 2008...

you took Vernon Gholston #1 overall.

...

Matt Forte is a dime a dozen back...

Uh...

Avril and Nicks...good picks. Congrats.

OnTheWarpath15 04-25-2010 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6714713)
In year one, yes, absolutely. I incorrectly assumed that Scott Pioli would come in and pick up right where Carl & Kuharich left off.

I was wrong and have voiced my concerns ad nauseam on this forum for the better part of 14 months.

So in short, I do not believe that by year three, they'll be a consistent playoff team. It would be awesome IF it happens but at this point in time, I think it's going to be difficult.

I would love, however, to be wrong.
Thank you for your honesty.

KCwolf 04-25-2010 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6714719)
Why is it silly to compare, Dane?

Some of us were championing Schwartz as the new HC of the Chiefs.

He was hired at the same time as Pioli/Haley.

Why is it silly to compare two teams that started over, both with next to nothing on their roster?

I know that if I were trying to make the point that KC has done a better job over the past 15 months, I wouldn't want to compare the rosters either.

This isn't a knock on you personally. You're my boy. But the overall tone of this place is EXACTLY like last year.

Everyone hates the picks initially, (sans Berry and Asomoah) then begin to rationalize it because some pundits like it - instead of sticking to their opinion.

It happened after the Cassel trade, it happened after last year's draft, and it happened this weekend.
Very Very Few were happy about last years Draft........

splatbass 04-25-2010 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6714694)
Did you, or did you not expect a playoff run by Year Three when Pioli was hired?
You realize this is year two, right?

Hootie 04-25-2010 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6714729)
I'm pathetic Phil?

The coward claims I know nothing about football.

I simply asked him to poll the people. If I'm the football idiot he says I am, it shouldn't be an issue.

You understand the concept of standing behind your claims, don't you Phil?

You wouldn't make false accusations, just to troll the board, and then hide behind your keyboard when called on it, would you?

I don't think you would, Phil, because you appear to have some integrity.

I'm just asking him to be a man, and stand behind his comment.
You're missing the point...

I don't give a shit what anyone else thinks...

I form my own opinions based off of what I believe...

I don't care what GoChiefs, or Dane, or Flopnuts, or Knowmo, or Vailpass, or Frazod, OR ANYONE thinks...if I agree with them it's because I honestly agree with them...

I honestly think you're a want-to-be know-it-all who ends up knowing far less than he really knows and you keep proving it and proving it and proving it.

Every time you click "Submit Reply"...

Titty Meat 04-25-2010 10:20 PM
OTW you are comparing apples to oranges my friend. This time last year the team didn't sign a guy like Chambers or Jones. Didn't draft anyone nearly as good as Berry or an impact player like McCluster. I'll even say there was no player this time last year that was good of a pick as Asmogah sp?

RedThat 04-25-2010 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6714730)
And in today's NFL it doesn't matter how devoid your roster is of talent. It's not a 5 year process anymore. It's from 1-3 tops in my humble opinion.

That said, I'm still firmly on the 8-8 or GTFO band wagon.
I think it depends what kind of shape your roster is in once a new regime takes over.

3 years is a solid amount of time to build a team imo. Provided that a lot of things go your way. But it could take longer sometimes. It all depends Flop.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-25-2010 10:21 PM
The rest of my picks from '08

Jalen Parmele: Took over KR duty for the Ravens last year and averaged 31 yards per return (7th rounder)
Kerry Brown: Busted Out (5th)
Lance Leggett: Never Stuck (7th)
King Dunlap: Philly's back up LT (6th)
Kellen Davis: Red zone threat for the Bears caught 3 TDs last year. (6th)
Brian Johnston: We all remember him (6th)

That was the rest of my '08

philfree 04-25-2010 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6714729)
I'm pathetic Phil?

The coward claims I know nothing about football.

I simply asked him to poll the people. If I'm the football idiot he says I am, it shouldn't be an issue.

You understand the concept of standing behind your claims, don't you Phil?

You wouldn't make false accusations, just to troll the board, and then hide behind your keyboard when called on it, would you?

I don't think you would, Phil, because you appear to have some integrity.

I'm just asking him to be a man, and stand behind his comment.
You are out of touch if you want a poll to secure your ? Planethood? Grow up man. You have devalued yourself....Why?

PhilFree:arrow:

OnTheWarpath15 04-25-2010 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon (Post 6714720)
no one accused you of that ROFLROFLROFL

you were blasting the McCluster and Arenas picks citing Gosselin's top 100...and conveniently ignoring the fact Moeaki was #48 and Asomoah was like #54...

You cited a guy who gave us an A+ to prove your point on why our draft sucked.

In other words...

your and idiot
I didn't ignore anything, you coward. There you go, yet again.

I've done nothing but PRAISE the Asomoah pick the entire ****ing weekend.

How exactly am I ignoring his value?

Hootie 04-25-2010 10:22 PM
Hamas...

whoever you cherrypick your information from drafts almost as good as Carl Peterson...nice job!

DeezNutz 04-25-2010 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6714741)
I'll even say there was no player this time last year that was good of a pick as Asmogah sp?
True.

I'm sorry, but the specter of a dog shit QB looms large over this franchise, and I admit that it clouds my perception and potential optimism.

Hootie 04-25-2010 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6714747)
I didn't ignore anything, you coward. There you go, yet again.

I've done nothing but PRAISE the Asomoah pick the entire ****ing weekend.

How exactly am I ignoring his value?
If we took Asomoah at 36, how would you have felt?


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