You can point to 2015 as more demonstrative than 2020? 6 seasons ago as opposed to 1? And cite the rookie season of a 5th round pick in Diggs, the 2nd year of a special teams specialist in Thielen and the decline years of a journeyman #3 wideout in Mike Wallace as being comparable to the prime years of Moore, Anderson and Samuel? This is how you intend to prove your point and you think you can fairly an intelligently make this argument?

Um...no, I do not believe you can. That's quite stupid.

And a single data point? I'm pointing to easily the most salient data point. SNR and others have provided you with several more. A brick need not be a wall, but man this is a BIG damn brick.

DJ Moore is very good. And I reiterate - he left anybody you have in the dust. And no, he's not Tyreek Hill. Nor is Anderson Travis Kelce. And Curtis Samuel essentially IS Mecole Hardman.

Three guys, one season removed from Teddy Bridgewater playing QB for the Broncos, in similar stages in their careers to the Broncos 'superstar trio', strafed those dudes. I mean absolutely waxed their asses. At that rate you could've let them play 20 games to 15 for the Panthers group and the Panthers group would've STILL come out ahead.

That's a terrible effort sport. I'd probably pack it up and head home if that's the best you've got.

:facepalm:

Broncos fans got more stupid over the years, huh?

Were our representatives over at The Mane this stupid back when we were desperate?

Because man, this just ain't real bright.

Every post you make proves it

Umm what?

staylor26 catching strays right now. LMAO

Sutton and Jeudy will both be 1,000 yard receivers with Russ. Sutton already accomplished that once a couple years ago and Jeudy had 850 this year.

You have to consider just how god awful Drew Lock is too. He played 3 games for them.

Jeudy does have drop problems though. That’s a big problem of his. And these guys aren’t Lockett/Metcalf

If you think Wallace was in decline, take a look at his 2016 season.

Thielen essentially started a run of 1000 yard seasons the moment he stopped playing with Bridgewater.

I noticed that you didn't even bother to mention Rudolph.

MIN's passing game exploded the next season when they ditched Bridgewater and went with the upgrade to Sam Bradford.

Bridgewater's career is littered with receivers who play much better once they play with a different QB.

I'm not the one arguing that Bridgewater is actually a good QB.

Thielen played 20% of the offensive snaps in 2015. He played more special teams snaps than he played offensive snaps. There is absolutely nothing relevant about a guy's snap count quadrupling during the magical "3rd Year Leap" for wide receivers suddenly producing more. Duh. Of course he did. He played.

Glad we've moved on from Diggs. Good call there.

As for Wallace, what precisely would you call a guy who went from 930 to 862 to 473 yards receiving as he entered his 30s? That's a declining player. He had himself an Indian Summer season when his competition for targets was a 37 yr old Steve Smith and a 31 year old Dennis Pitta. Good for him. But no, he was nothing approaching the player he was in Pittsburgh.

As for Kyle Rudolph - what about him? He was...there. He was an adequate red zone target. That's where you're hanging your hat now? Oh well - it still a better argument than Thielen and Diggs, I guess.

You're right though. Their passing offense really EXPLODED from 7.2 Y/A to....7 Y/A. I especially like how their QBR went from 57.7 to...uh...well shit, 53.1 under Bradford. But points per game! Yeah, points per game. It went from 22.8 points per game right in the middle of the league all the way to....OH ARE YOU ****ING KIDDING ME!?!? It went down to 20.4 and 23rd in the league??

Yeah - offense really went HAM after Bridgewater left. Sam Bradford took that squad that went 11-5 with Bridgewater and took them over the hump all the way to 8-8 despite the defense surrendering an identical number of points per game.

Seriously - what in the actual hell are you talking about. You know you can look this stuff up before you post it right. I don't have a jeopardy song in the background that's going to make you speak before confirming things. You can take a beat, make sure you're not pulling shit from your ass, THEN post.

If you think that’s the argument, you’re reeruned.

Dafuq are you talking about? Who's arguing that Bridgewater is a good QB?

He's the isolated variable in the equation you dolt. Good, bad, mediocre, black, white, lefthanded, crippled gay or straight - every single part of that question is irrelevant to the discussion.

He's your throughput. He's the variable that doesn't change when comparing 2 consecutive seasons. Nobody is saying otherwise.

Tap out, bro. This is getting embarrassing.

Does that moron that think I’m a Broncos fan? His post doesn’t even make sense lol.

Sadly, I honest to God think he might.

I don’t think anyone is arguing that Bridgewater is a good QB. I think the argument is that a ‘solid’ group of WR’s in Carolina looked competent with him at QB, but the very next season in Denver this supposed ‘elite talented’ group of WR looked like garbage with the same exact QB.

That’s the point.