Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17945003)

This is Vic Fangio you aren't gonna see anything like they were doing under Gannon 2 years ago. This is gonna be a bunch of rush 4, soft shell bullshit.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17944965)

I mean...Chris Jones only had 5.

Surely we know the folly of using sacks as a dispositive metric of impact. Jalen Carter isn't Chris Jones, but he's REALLY damn good.

And again, I think with Davis (or Ojomo in pass rush situations) at the nose and Milton Williams at the other 3-tech, y'all are sleeping on that front. Williams especially -- he's been a very good player for them this year. And I think that's largely because it's not the same as what we do, IMO. It's a 3-4 hybrid sort of front but we're looking at these guys using an even front sort of lens.

But that's not how they role.

You just really can't make a comparison between their players and ours, or their players and the 2022 team. It's a COMPLETELY different system.

But they do create some headaches with it. When they get pressure with Carter/Williams/Ojomo/Davis -- that's a pretty strong bonus when they also have Smith and Sweat coming off the edge.

I'm just disinclined to hand-waive that Eagles pass rush, especially when combined with a deep and talented secondary.

I don't think they're better than Houston, but I do think they're better than Buffalo and by a pretty fair bit.

We put up 23 vs. Houston and 32 vs. Buffalo -- split the gap and that's how I get to around 27. I think that's a pretty makeable and reasonable target mark.

Originally Posted by BigAl1966 (Post 17945016)

Bullshit. Lol… That bullshit is the number one ranked defence this year. Seriously dude, give the devil it’s due.

Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 17944781)

I'd argue the iggles team we played in 2022 was much more formidable. Elite defensive line. Elite offensive line. Elite running game. Hurts playing at an MVP level.
There's no way in hell Barkley is running for 200 yards and 3 TDs against this Spags defense. I feel better about this SB than any other.

Keep in mind, Washington was within range of pulling off an upset had they not shot themselves in the foot. Iggles won that game, blew it open, because the dummie Commanders kept turning the ball over.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17945020)

Vic Fangio has been around forever...dude is 0-8 vs Mahomes, this isn't anything new. Matter of fact I can show you a video if a dude saying his scheme sucks nuts lol.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17944801)

Yeah, I’ve seen that (this Eagles team is WAY better than that one) and I just don’t see it.

Yeah, Mitchell is good and an upgrade. Yes, Baun had a huge year and DeJean was effective in the slot.

But to act like it’s this massive upgrade? Yeah, doesn’t track.

Originally Posted by BigAl1966 (Post 17945015)

If you actually look at the turnovers, most were the result of a huge hit or a peanut punch… The only luck involved was that they did seem to recover a very high percentage of them.

Originally Posted by BigAl1966 (Post 17945021)

The 2014 is better than the 22 team in almost every position group. DE might be the one exception. People trash hurts, but he’s basically executed the offense… run run run… When he has passed, his passing efficiency is very good.

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17945017)

There is not another Chris Jones in the making in the NFL right now. Especially a kid as stupid off the field as Jalen Carter has been.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17945034)

No but Jared Verse is that dude if we’re talking DL in general. He is outstanding. And he laid it on the Eagles tackles who are ranked the best in football.

So impressed with that kid