Hotter take; Mahomes isn’t black enough for them to fully embrace. There are 100% gradients of ‘blackness’ among black people, and Lamar is the one they want to break through and win a championship. Not trying to devolve this thread, but truth is truth.

I’d throw him in prison tbh

I don't see this changing any time soon...

Patrick would be plenty black enough for them if he were in a big market. It’s not about skin color, it’s about fly over country.

I think its this too.

Steph Curry is light skinned but his team is in San Francisco, and he's 100% beloved.

The first time he doesn't take a knee or parrot a stupid opinion they'll throw him under the bus in a heartbeat.

Maybe, if Love doesn't choke in the playoffs again. I'll admit that he surprised me this year in how much improved he looked. But he still made bad plays down the stretch against the 49ers that lost the game for them.

If Taylor and Kelce is all about the money. Why not choose the east coast bachelor on the cover of Madden?

It's called having Championship DNA...and Lamar doesn't have it. Amazing talent, but he turtles when the lights get bright. Even if you are a Ravens fan, you CAN NOT deny it at this point.

I watched a clip from Pat McAfee show. Apparently, this is not the first time Tucker has done this kind of thing.

I noticed that once Kelce threw his stuff aside, that was the end of it. he knows that Kelce or even Mahomes would end his little punk self.

I think there was another dustup pregame, as well. This was just the Ravens thinking they could bully and intimidate the Chiefs. What they didn't expect was that the Chiefs cannot be intimidated. GTFO, Ravens!

No it isn't. The media has been on the Bengals dick for a few seasons and ignoring their douchebag antics. Media just wants to take down Goliath which is us right now

I'm actually surprised nobody has brought up that mahomes could have injured himself. That equipment was literally that close to his feet he could have rolled on it. Can you imagine the outrage if the best QB in the game hurt himself because of some childish antics? That's the part that angers me the most. So even if he does it all the time he was really pushing the boundary this time.

And then instead of just owning up to it he throws shade at Kelce and mahomes. **** that guy. Went from GOAT kicker to an asshole in one move. Yes he's allowed to do it. But the timing and placement was obviously not a coincidence.

Yeah, he's just a little punk, a perfect representative of that Ravens team.
And while he may be one of, if not the greatest kicker of all time, he's not the best kicker this year. And he was not the best kicker in that game.
I hope that guy trips on his kicking tee and ruptures his Achilles next year.

Joe Burrow has never walked off the field after a loss without going to the opposing team and congratulating them.

Players on your team wished him well and told him the game wasn't the same without him. :shrug:

No, he's not allowed to do it. It's been a point of emphasis in the league this year. He's blatantly flaunting the rules.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...r%20the%20fact.

Keep talking that bullshit while forgetting that Burrow led the 6 minute drive in Cincy in '21 that beat you, led the OT drive in the AFCCG that beat you and led the drive and made the 3rd down throw in a tight window in '22 in Cincy that beat you.

You should also seriously reconsider putting shit like the bolded out for everyone to read.

Yeah, talking shit on Burrow is stupid. When he's healthy, he's one of the top QB's in this league. He's also proven he can do something Allen can't - get to a SB by knocking off the Chiefs.

It'll be interesting to see how these guys evolve... not even Mahomes avoided growing pains. The Bills tried to limit Allen hero ball, but in the end they're still not quite there. Just like Mahomes, Burrow will most likely one day have to adjust to not having two 1000 yard receivers, and may even need to play hero ball one year when his defense isn't as good.

Just think, in the evolution of Mahomes, if he wins a SB this year we'll have witnessed....
...winning a SB as a gunslinger and being heavily relied upon
...winning a SB minus a 2nd HoF receiver and relying more on defense
...potentially winning a SB relying more so on defense and even times of game management offense

There’s fair and unfair criticism of any QB.

The fair criticism of Burrow is:

1. What would he look like without such great receivers? Could still be great, but we don’t know.

2. Sacks. Whether it’s him or the OL, he takes way too many sacks. That’s not sustainable. It’ll either kill key drives (see last year’s AFCCG) or shorten his career (maybe both).

He’s been sacked 148 times in 52 regular season games. Mahomes has been sacked 148 times in 96 regular season games.

Burrow has also been sacked 29 times in 7 postseason games. Mahomes has been sacked 32 times in 17 postseason games.

Burrows 2nd half postseason stats are terrible. He's meh.

Its different for a kicker because he will want to see how the wind moves in each direction. He can be there and I think in the other end zone you can see Townsend. It also is reasonable to kick at the goal line because kickers will start with no drop kicks. Mahomes and Kelce weren't in pads so this is more pre warmup. Generally tucker shouldve been done with that or at the very least... Moved it when asked to or don't put your shit in a blatantly intrusive spot when all you're doing is stretching.

But just because you have the right to be there doesn't mean you can abuse the privilege with Justin did. Not hard to figure out his intent which was to provoke

And he's now injury prone.

Ultimately McAfee is as good as anyone to comment. And he sees no issue with tucker being there, but clearly he was trying to provoke where most kickers will have the courtesy to not get in the way. And once tucker started being a dick about not moving, Kelce and mahomes were well within their rights to move his shit out of the way.

Yep. It's proven in the end. The best of the best adjust to what they have.

Lamar’s offseason plans for greatness...

He'll go to Wichita
He's gonna work the straw
He's gonna make sweat drip out of every pore!

So where was the "savant" half time adjustments we heard so much about? Because Spags put him in hell the entire game and he never really figured it out.

After they kicked his holder, he the moved his 2 balls and his helmet right where Patrick was throwing. He could have easily put thems elsewhere, but he was trying to be a prick. He sees Butker coming up strong in the rearview mirror.

Ah, the good ole days...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I remember the days when this used to be called a penalty <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/4RWVzYW2FW">pic.twitter.com/4RWVzYW2FW</a></p>&mdash; Reverend Nåchø (@Nachopacalypse) <a href="https://twitter.com/Nachopacalypse/status/1752645000708460719?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 31, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The difference between burrow and josh is 13 seconds that Josh had nothing to do with. If Bills defense stops chiefs Josh has a SB appearance too. Burrow required the worst half of postseason football from Mahomes to beat him. Both have regular season winning records against the Chiefs.

I think Allen is the second best qb in the league but his defense always fails him.

meh...

This is always a little bit of A, little bit of B.

Burrow's line has never been great. But he also holds the ball too long. And ultimately he may end up being a little like Watson in that even when Watson DID have a good OL, he was still taking too many sacks.

You didn't know it was Watson's doing until the line got cleaned up. But once you did, he was still a guy who was getting himself in trouble.

But but but the refs always help the Chiefs!

He’s come out and said he doesn’t stress about sacks too much. He says a lot of them he takes are on 3rd downs when it doesn’t matter much.

Let's Talk About Baltimore (AFC Championship)
 

So your counterpoint to a point being made about Burrow shrinking in the playoffs is to bring up 3 games, of which 2 are in the regular season? Not too bright.

How about you point to a playoff game where Burrow got the ball in the fourth and led his team with a TD pass in the fourth quarter? Can you do that?

1st down sacks: 46
2nd down: 42
3rd: 58

He should probably stress about sacks a little more.

LMAO

Well that settles it!

Those numbers are close enough that his sack % might be higher on 1st than 3rd?

Yeah Burrow isn't bad, it's the rest of your trash-talking turds. But while Mahomes actively tries to put the clamps on that stuff, Burrow seems to silently encourage it. FAFO

I still consider Cincy a top threat in the AFC - probably right there neck and neck with Buffalo for 2024.

But I am damn sure excited to see how they navigate roster changes as their offense is forced to evolve. Their OL hasn't been good, but no, I don't think Burrow does them favors either.

This is the thing that of all the national pundits, really only Nick Wright seems to be calling out. GMFB did a whole Mahomes vs. Brady GOAT segment. Even as a huge Chiefs homer, bleh. It's not Mahomes this year. Mahomes' job Sunday was to make a few great plays, get a lead so Lamar and the Ravens would panic, and then not make mistakes.

He was a game manager for most of that game. Which he's embraced because he just wants to win and doesn't give a crap about style points or his individual stats (which yes is a form of greatness).

Oh yeah, and make one more great play to seal it. This year, Mahomes is basically what Joe Montana was for the Chiefs. Just go out there, lean on the defense, make a few great plays, and don't choke in the big moments.

W/o our championship defense this year, even Mahomes couldn't have hero-balled that offense to the Super Bowl. But that's no fun for national pundit narratives.

The thing about Cincy is they won't panic like the Ravens if we get up 10 in a playoff game. They've been there and know they can win. That's scary.

I've watched the full game and the condensed version here.

https://nfl-video.com/kansas-city-ch...c-championship

My counterpoint touched on exactly what you posted.

Who gives a flying **** if he's thrown a TD in the 4th quarter when he's 5-2 in the playoffs. Throwing or not throwing a TD "in the 4th quarter" is a stat someone had to search for to make a dumb point. Burrow has 'needed' to throw a TD in the 4th quarter, and failed, 1 time; against the Rams and he had Ja'Marr wide open but only had about 1.3 seconds to get the ball off thanks to Aaron Donald.

You could argue the Chiefs game last year, but he didn't really 'need' a TD since they were down 3.

Now that Eli Apple is gone, there's only one guy that openly talks actal shit. Ja'Marr. Mike Hilton's "see you in Burrowhead" was just him being goofy and giving them a little poke. He's too nice to talk actual shit. Burrow has never said anything bad about KC.

You're getting a bunch of dumb fans and a dipshit Mayor mixed in with the team. Remind me again if there were any dust ups in pregame before either Bengals V Chiefs AFCCGs.

And they have what, one TD at all in the fourth in the playoffs? I’m guessing in those two losses his team could have benefited from a TD drive. And they also got bailed out against the Ravens. Burrow wasn’t winning that game.

Not sure Buffalo would have made the Super Bowl. Even if Buffalo won the 13 seconds game, they would still have to get past a pretty tough Cincy Bengals team. Cincy has whipped Buffalo twice in the last two seasons. I think the 13 seconds game took a lot out of both KC and Buffalo. Whoever won that game was gonna be running on fumes in the next game against the Bengals.

Ravens losing their DC…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A youth movement in Seattle: Seahawks are expected to hire Ravens’ defensive coordinator Mike Macdonald as their new head coach, league sources tell ESPN. They’re still finalizing the deal, but Seattle has its man.<br><br>At 36, Macdonald now becomes the NFL’s youngest head coach. <a href="https://t.co/uZ3vbXTS4n">pic.twitter.com/uZ3vbXTS4n</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1752757187007422865?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 31, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Texans are the new threat. Stroud is awesome and they have tons of money to spend

Prior to last season I believed the Bills would have made the Super Bowl but after seeing them play I definitely can’t just assume they win. The Bengals were a bad matchup for the Bills the last few seasons.

And if we couldn't win the Super Bowl...well I'm damn sure glad neither of them did either.

Somehow those two trashbag franchises/fanbases made me cheer for Stan Kroenke.

Dicks.

I own that shirt. I went to an Oriole game at Camden the next year and yelled at Guthrie to show him. He laughed his ass off and then hid like oops I shouldn't have done that.

The Mahomes-Stroud AFCCG is not an if, but when proposition.

Next year could very easily be time.

I was happy for Stafford. It was cool to watch him take out both Brady & Burrow in that Playoff run.

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Refs really helping the Chiefs here.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Apparently I missed the moment when some Ravens player just decided to kick Pacheco to stop him. <a href="https://t.co/f3Lxnwm50L">pic.twitter.com/f3Lxnwm50L</a></p>&mdash; Matt Conner (@MattConnerAA) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattConnerAA/status/1752776421481578635?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 31, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This was before the designated team warmups. Before the designated time, the entire field is open.

He was allowed to be there, but he was just being a dick by not moving over.

bUt WuT aBoUt ThE sCrIpT!!!!!

Aye. Not to mention the cumulative effects of taking those hits all season, every season. As well as the randomness of NFL injuries. One sack could end his season (and has twice now)

Take it up with him. I was just offering some insight to his mindset that came straight from his mouth.

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Here’s the podcast if you’re interested. It’s actually pretty good. Can’t remember which point he talks about sacks though and not gonna rewatch it just to find out.

hope to see you next year, lil fella

dude I gave you two neg reps TOTAL


but yes, I feel amazing, thank you.


https://i.postimg.cc/ydqcH8p8/delrep.jpg

mmm! chris jones PENIS! me rikey!

Chiefs were up 21-3 on the bengals in the first half. Chiefs weren’t running on fumes. Pat just played his worse half of postseason football of his career.

Josh was on a Mahomes like tear. Much better than the following year when the bills lost to the bengals. He shredded both defenses he faced in the playoffs that year. Bills would have beaten the bengals that year, imo.

He ran out of gas by halftime of that Bengals game. And I think you underrate the Cincy defense. Allen wasn't gonna torch them for 4 quarters. That same Cincy defense held the Rams to only 23 points when they were torching everyone else they played, such as scoring 30 points on the road against a pretty good defense for the defending champs in Tampa Bay.

I wish someone would upload Turning Point to Fishkernfl or the Bay.

So, which is it? Did Mahomes run out of gas after putting up 21 points or was the Bengals defense just that great? I think you underestimate just how well Josh was playing. His performances against the Pats and Chiefs that year were better than any two postseason games Mahomes has had.

Clowney kicking Pacheco should be a suspension

Allen torched a Chiefs defense that was falling down on a lot of the plays. Wide open receivers. I think Mahomes outplayed him in that 13 seconds game. Mahomes was going against the #1 ranked defense in the league. ESPN QBR grades were 97/100 for Mahomes and 92/100 for Allen in that game. So I'm gonna strongly disagree with your statement that Allen outplayed him in that game. Apparently ESPN agrees with me on it.

The Bengals in 2021 had a much better defense than the 2021 Chiefs defense. So hell no, I don't think Allen would have torched the Bengals for 4 quarters. Stafford & Mahomes weren't able to do it. Josh Allen himself has not been able to do it when he went against that Cincy defense in 2022 and 2023.

LMAO

https://i.imgur.com/zLpXPf9.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/UTsksIz.jpg

Josh Allen is better than Stafford. Bengals defense was 17th in 2021 and 6th in 2022. The bills had the #1 defense in 2021 though. Bengals barely beat the damn raiders and titans. Youre building up the Bengals because they beat the Chiefs.

They barely beat the Raiders & Titans because their offense with Burrow is overrated as hell. The Cincy defense carried them to those wins. And they held a very hot Stafford to 23 points after he torched the defending champs Tampa in their house.

The following year in the Playoffs the Bengals shutdown Josh Allen to only 10 points in his stadium. A much worse version of the Bengals defense this year held Josh Allen to 17 points. Their 2021 defense would have done just fine against him, based on what they did against a pretty hot Stafford & Mahomes and based on what they've done against Allen in 2022 and 2023.

before this guy could get home
https://i.imgur.com/vzGRQAb.png

the kid was kickin it in Vegas already
https://i.imgur.com/W9hT8Ej.png

Amazing

What happens the following year is WHOLLY irrelevant. There is no transitive property in football. Chiefs beat the bengals the second time after losing the first. Ravens lost to the titans after losing to them first. Josh has a winning record against the Chiefs in the regular season. Burrow is undefeated. Burrow has a losing record to Baker. So, what happened the following year doesn’t tell you much about what would have happened the prior year.

And if the Bengals offense was overrated how do you support they would have faired against the #1 defense in the league??? The Bills were better on both sides of the ball and it wasn’t close. Bills would have been as big of favorites as the chiefs were. And Josh was “hotter” than Stafford.

There is zero reason to believe the bengals would have beaten the bills except that the bengals beat the Chiefs. And that literally required an epic collapse of the best qb in the game.

That’s going to be framed. Large.

Billay said the same thing about Chris Jones’s 40 yard dash pic

Wow! That is extraordinary!

LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Travis Kelce on wearing all black to the AFC Championship Game: &quot;Chris Jones made sure to tell everybody, &#39;Make sure you&#39;re wearing all black this week.&#39; We&#39;re going go in there, we&#39;re gonna hit the bank like ChiefsAholic baby!&quot;<br><br>(via <a href="https://twitter.com/PatMcAfeeShow?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PatMcAfeeShow</a>)<a href="https://t.co/lEP9niJO69">pic.twitter.com/lEP9niJO69</a></p>&mdash; Awful Announcing (@awfulannouncing) <a href="https://twitter.com/awfulannouncing/status/1752760761791795311?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 31, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

holy **** i love this team

embracing the villain role

just ****ed around for 16 weeks and then decided to go dark side on everyone and cement the dynasty LMAO