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SAUTO 02-23-2009 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5519644)
I don't think the Eagles are really what people want to be, being a consistent playoff loser isn't my bag.
mecca 4 nfc championship games :rolleyes:, yeah i dont want that. you have to get there to have a shot

Rigodan 02-23-2009 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 5519640)
Patriots have finished outside the top 10 defensively twice. Once was 2002, when they didn't make the playoffs. The other time was 2005, where the team went 10-6. So, the two worst seasons defensively were the two worst seasons record-wise. In the 3 Super Bowl winning years, the team was #6, #1 and #2 on defense.

The Colts with Manning are under .500 in the playoffs.

The Steelers 2 Super Bowl wins had defenses ranked #1 and #3.

The Eagles defenses since 2000 and early in the decade: #4, #2, #2, #7, #2, #27 (6-10)

Chargers: #11, #13, #7, #5, #15, and the only year they got to the AFCCG was the year with the best defense.

In order to be a consistently top tier team, you need both the offense AND the defense. Both Pro and Anti Stafford/Sanchez people are simply going to have to trust that the new regime knows what it's doing.
You're right, you do need offense and defense. This year is void of elite defensive talent, has two potential franchise qbs, and really doesn't provide any elite talent at positions the chiefs need other than qb. Next year is void of franchise quarterbacks and will be loaded with defensive talent at the top of the draft. 2 years from now I'd figure Pioli will have us picking out of the top ten so you may never be in a position to get that top quaterback talent. If you concede you need a franchise qb to win a Super Bowl the "safe" thing to do is draft him this year.

Mecca 02-23-2009 06:06 PM
The Eagles are like a lesser known version of the Bills...would you really like to go through that?

baitism 02-23-2009 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5519684)
His take really makes no sense to me he's acting like this is an NBA trade and a team will just give you a 1st round pick in a 3 team trade to save money.
Obviously you are a Sanchez fanboy (as if one couldn't tell by your profile), so you are inevitably going to be biased. As someone who is neither a fan of Georgia or USC, I can assure you that neither (and especially Sanchez) are worthy of a top 5 pick. I would even be in support of trading away our #3 pick altogether for something better down the line, because we sure arent competing next year....

Mecca 02-23-2009 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Rigodan (Post 5519687)
You're right, you do need offense and defense. This year is void of elite defensive talent, has two potential franchise qbs, and really doesn't provide any elite talent at positions the chiefs need other than qb. Next year is void of franchise quarterbacks and will be loaded with defensive talent at the top of the draft. 2 years from now I'd figure Pioli will have us picking out of the top ten so you may never be in a position to get that top quaterback talent. If you concede you need a franchise qb to win a Super Bowl the "safe" thing to do is draft him this year.
That doesn't even factor in that next year has a ton of elite defensive talent and no QB's there are atleast 4-5 players that will be in next years draft that are better defensive prospects than any player in this years draft.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-23-2009 06:07 PM
Let's just put the nonsense to bed and get right to the visual aid for those who obviously need one:

http://www.mywavv.com/Scripts/index.htm
Chiefs vs Broncos 1997 (Playoff)

If this doesn't convince you that a stellar defense and an "okay" QB will get you jack squat, then you are most DEFINITELY AND UNEQUIVOCALLY reerunED.

Get to class, ya' dumb ****s.

Mecca 02-23-2009 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by baitism (Post 5519693)
Obviously you are a Sanchez fanboy (as if one couldn't tell by your profile), so you are inevitably going to be biased. As someone who is neither a fan of Georgia or USC, I can assure you that neither (and especially Sanchez) are worthy of a top 5 pick.
Great that doesn't change the fact that you're trade scenario makes no sense but great job at trying to deflect that into something else.

Brock 02-23-2009 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by baitism (Post 5519693)
Obviously you are a Sanchez fanboy (as if one couldn't tell by your profile), so you are inevitably going to be biased. As someone who is neither a fan of Georgia or USC, I can assure you that neither (and especially Sanchez) are worthy of a top 5 pick.
I'm wondering how valuable your assurances are?

CanadaKC 02-23-2009 06:08 PM
Brock...you lost some cred when you say NFLdraftblitz...is a shit site...then don't back it up.....only because it says we're drafting Curry....just like Mecca saying nfldraftcountdown is a shit site for saying the same thing...where;s your argument?

Mecca 02-23-2009 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5519699)
I'm wondering how valuable your assurances are?
If they are anything like his trade scenarios I doubt he could pay people to take them.

Pioli Zombie 02-23-2009 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5519678)
Yeah, that's what I figured.
Who needs espn, nfl.com,cbs,sporting news, nfl network, fox sports. Any publications or websites

I've got you guys who know so much more

So pathetic.
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baitism 02-23-2009 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CanadaKC (Post 5519702)
Brock...you lost some cred when you say NFLdraftblitz...is a shit site...then don't back it up.....only because it says we're drafting Curry....just like Mecca saying nfldraftcountdown is a shit site for saying the same thing...where;s your argument?
Because nfl.com surely does not know what they are talking about. Scrub posters on chiefsplanet must have the inside scoop! ROFL

Mecca 02-23-2009 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CanadaKC (Post 5519702)
Brock...you lost some cred when you say NFLdraftblitz...is a shit site...then don't back it up.....only because it says we're drafting Curry....just like Mecca saying nfldraftcountdown is a shit site for saying the same thing...where;s your argument?
NFLDraftBlitz is a shit site, a few years ago it had Omar Jacobs as a top 5 pick.

SAUTO 02-23-2009 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5519690)
The Eagles are like a lesser known version of the Bills...would you really like to go through that?
mecca, once again 4 super bowls in 4 years(bills) 4 nfc championship games 1 sb:rolleyes: yeah no one here wants that. you HAVE to get there to have ANY chance

Brock 02-23-2009 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CanadaKC (Post 5519702)
Brock...you lost some cred when you say NFLdraftblitz...is a shit site...then don't back it up.....only because it says we're drafting Curry....just like Mecca saying nfldraftcountdown is a shit site for saying the same thing...where;s your argument?
Why don't you explain to me what gives them any credibility? Most of these draft web sites, probably all of them, are somewhere on the level of WPI.

I don't care what their take is on Sanchez or any other player, I'm saying that they're just another draft website with the same information as everybody else.


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