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Discuss Thrower 05-24-2011 12:21 PM

At the mall with a friend who's giving blood. CBCoO is reporting blood centers in the state had x10 donations than they expected. Win.

I drove from South main to north main via Wall St since Main was congested terribly. That area of 26th and Wall / Joplin Streets are worse than it looks in pictures. Nuclear bomb sums it up nicely.

The Volunteer coordinators at MoSo said my services aren't needed at the moment. My friend told me they told him he'd be needed later tonight so I'll try and stick around for that.

Frazod 05-24-2011 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 7659844)
One Mizzou Tornado Relief T-Shirt

http://mutigers.cbscollegestore.com/...duct_id=193994

Proceeds benefit the Joplin relief effort. On a related note, Coach Haith will be driving to Joplin with coaches/staff to deliver goods from C-Town United Way. Nice to see the new guy pitching in.

Just got one. Thanks for posting this. :thumb:

pr_capone 05-24-2011 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7659746)
HOLY MOLY Praise GOD!!!! Just got this text from my cousin AMY!!!!

Breaking news for my gparents...we received a call this morning...they're alive in the hospital in Pittsburg, KS!!! College kids took them to the hospital in the back of a truck.

Best news possible. I'm thrilled they are safe.

Frazod 05-24-2011 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Alton deFlat (Post 7659850)
Here's a missing persons database. I have no idea how current or accurate it is.

http://wyhighonline.info/JoplinDB/list.php

I don't know their real names, so I'm not sure who to look for.

I really hate to ask, but does anyone know if there is a list of confirmed fatalities yet?

EDIT: On a personal level, I don't need to know now - just found out that my friend is okay. I guess his daughter's apartment got wiped out, but all family members survived unscathed and his house is even intact. :thumb:

Bob Dole 05-24-2011 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 7659844)
One Mizzou Tornado Relief T-Shirt

http://mutigers.cbscollegestore.com/...duct_id=193994

Proceeds benefit the Joplin relief effort. On a related note, Coach Haith will be driving to Joplin with coaches/staff to deliver goods from C-Town United Way. Nice to see the new guy pitching in.

Grabbed one. Thanks for the link!

luv 05-24-2011 01:20 PM

Co-worker talked to an EMT who was in Joplin yesterday. He was so excited to go and be able to rescue people. Apparently, there was an apartment building across from the Home Depot, and the people from the apartments thought it would be a good idea to take shelter there (at HD). Out of everyone the team he was on pulled out, none had survived. The death count will also be much higher. He said that the official count contains those who they have been able to identify. There are several who they haven't been able to identify yet.

Donger 05-24-2011 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 7660037)
Co-worker talked to an EMT who was in Joplin yesterday. He was so excited to go and be able to rescue people. Apparently, there was an apartment building across from the Home Depot, and the people thought it would be a good idea to take shelter there. Out of everyone the team he was on pulled out, none had survived. The death count will also be much higher. He said that the official count contains those who they have been able to identify. There are several who they haven't been able to identify yet.

Ick. I remember being told that the NE corner of ANY structure is the safest place to take shelter during a tornado. I don't know if that thinking has changed or not.

Pants 05-24-2011 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7660039)
Ick. I remember being told that the NE corner of ANY structure is the safest place to take shelter during a tornado. I don't know if that thinking has changed or not.

Dang. That is good to know.

Stinger 05-24-2011 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7660039)
Ick. I remember being told that the NE corner of ANY structure is the safest place to take shelter during a tornado. I don't know if that thinking has changed or not.

Only as a last resort and there is no central small room to go into. Your best best bet is a small interior enclosure(bathroom, closet, etc.), preferably underground.

Dartgod 05-24-2011 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 7660037)
Co-worker talked to an EMT who was in Joplin yesterday. He was so excited to go and be able to rescue people. Apparently, there was an apartment building across from the Home Depot, and the people from the apartments thought it would be a good idea to take shelter there (at HD). Out of everyone the team he was on pulled out, none had survived. The death count will also be much higher. He said that the official count contains those who they have been able to identify. There are several who they haven't been able to identify yet.

Wow. Chilling...
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Skyy God 05-24-2011 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 7660037)
Co-worker talked to an EMT who was in Joplin yesterday. He was so excited to go and be able to rescue people. Apparently, there was an apartment building across from the Home Depot, and the people from the apartments thought it would be a good idea to take shelter there (at HD). Out of everyone the team he was on pulled out, none had survived. The death count will also be much higher. He said that the official count contains those who they have been able to identify. There are several who they haven't been able to identify yet.

Out of morbid curiosity, did those that stayed at the apartment complex do any better? I'm guessing so.

Donger 05-24-2011 01:34 PM

http://www.tornadoproject.com/myths/myths.htm

For nearly a century, the published conventional wisdom was that the southwest corner of a building, both above and below ground, afforded the best protection. This misconception probably originated from someone's reasoning, rather than from actual observations. They probably assumed that deadly debris would be propelled over the southwest corner and land in the northeast corner.

The idea that it was safe to seek shelter on the side of a house facing the oncoming tornado dates back to at least the first book on tornadoes, the 1887 comprehensive text Tornadoes, by John Park Finley. He placed in italic for emphasis the following remark: "Under no circumstances, whether in a building or in a cellar, ever take a position in a northeast room, in a northeast corner, or an east room, or against an east wall." He also recommended removing the furniture from the west-facing room and closing all windows in the house. This is all incorrect, deadly, and time-wasting advice. It is quite possible that someone has died following it. While relatively few people probably read the book when it was available, the advice was quoted in many newspapers. It is possible that in the limited number of damage surveys that Finley conducted personally, he came upon a grisly scene involving the northeast portion of a poorly constructed house that had fallen over, and it strongly influenced his thinking.

These assumptions went essentially unchallenged until 1966, when Professor Joseph Eagleman of the University of Kansas undertook a survey of destroyed produced by after the Topeka tornado of June 8th. Professor Eagleman's objective study showed that the south side and southwest corners, the direction of approach for the Topeka tornado, were the least safe areas, and the north side of homes were the safest .... both on the first floor and in the basement. He repeated the study after the Lubbock, Texas tornado of May 11, 1970, and the results were even more striking. The southwest portion of the houses were unsafe in 75% of the damaged homes .... double the percentage of unsafe areas in the northeast part of homes. As a general rule, people in basements will escape injury despite the extreme devastation above them. Being under a stairwell, heavy table, or work bench will afford even more protection.

Ignorance of this conventional wisdom, combined with common sense, has saved lives in the past. At the Pacolet Mills near Gainesville, Georgia on June 1, 1903, 550 people ran to the northeast corner of the building as the tornado approached from the southwest. That northeast corner was the only part of the building not destroyed. At least fifty people died in other Gainesville fabric mills on that day, and more than 40 more died in homes near the mills.

Mr. Flopnuts 05-24-2011 01:39 PM

This is straight from the Joplin Tornado Recovery page on Facebook.

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A MO family has pledged to match up to $50,000 in donations made to this fund, beginning this morning, and 100% of proceeds go straight to Joplin with ZERO overhead.

Extra phone operators are standing by at Heart of Missouri United Way for Joplin Tornado Relief Fund!

Call 573-443-4523, go online to http://uwheartmo.org/, or text JOPLIN to 864833 to make a $10 donation.

Fish 05-24-2011 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 7660037)
Co-worker talked to an EMT who was in Joplin yesterday. He was so excited to go and be able to rescue people. Apparently, there was an apartment building across from the Home Depot, and the people from the apartments thought it would be a good idea to take shelter there (at HD). Out of everyone the team he was on pulled out, none had survived. The death count will also be much higher. He said that the official count contains those who they have been able to identify. There are several who they haven't been able to identify yet.

Why on earth would you take shelter in a Home Depot? If I were anywhere near one, I'd be running the opposite direction. All that lumber and equipment.... That's nothing but deadly tornado ammo. You might as well take shelter in a bowling ball factory.....

Skyy God 05-24-2011 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 7660071)
Why on earth would you take shelter in a Home Depot? If I were anywhere near one, I'd be running the opposite direction. All that lumber and equipment.... That's nothing but deadly tornado ammo. You might as well take shelter in a bowling ball factory.....

That, and I can't imagine it'd take much to blow the roof off.


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