Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 10694955)

I guess I don't see all of this competent talent walking away you are so worried about. Branden Albert was a calculated move. For better or worse they drafted Fisher to take his spot beause they didn't feel he was worth the money he was asking for. I tend to agree with them.

McCluster will never live up to the contract Tennessee gave him and they drafted his replacement who has more raw talent than McCluster.

Tyson Jackson was replaced by a better player in Walker.

Schwartz is one guy I would have liked to have seen stay, but he was also brought in by Dorsey so that is a wash as far as talent brought in vs. talent walking away.

Flowers doesn't fit the defensive scheme that KC is running. He is a much better zone corner than press man corner. Cooper and Gaines are better suited to play press man than Flowers.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10695270)

Exactly. Bowe had ALL the leverage when we signed him. If we had let him go there would be 50 "SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO OVERPAY FOR GREAT TALENT!" threads on this board.

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 10694945)

I just think it is too early to say. He didn't create this cap situation (and yes, despite what some think...there is such a thing as the salary cap). I think you have to bring in young bodies, it's the NFL... and paying for past performance is death. Let's see what the young guys do, is all I'm saying.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10695363)

Everyone acknowledges we overpaid. Look at the top 5 paid receivers. Only 2 of them deserve to be paid top top WR salaries. But that's the nature of the business. The next top 10-15 WR to get signed will get a bigger contract than Bowe and so on and so forth. In 2 years Bowe will barely be hanging on to a top 10 contract.



At the end of the day, the choice was to either overpay Bowe and get him to stay or have Donnie Avery as our #1 receiver. Dorsey just did what he had to do.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10696018)

This is all true. I'm not even too mad about Bowe because I've always liked him and he contributes, if not with big numbers in blocking for the running game.

Still, it seems we've overpaid on a lot of players so far in this new regime.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10696018)

This is all true. I'm not even too mad about Bowe because I've always liked him and he contributes, if not with big numbers in blocking for the running game.

Still, it seems we've overpaid on a lot of players so far in this new regime.

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 10696550)

Besides bowe, who has Dorsey over paid?

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10694928)

I am ****ing amazed that fans can watch competent talent walk out the door and still believe Dorsey is a solid GM.

We have two offseasons to judge and more talent has left 1 Arrowhead than has come in.

I was as big a backer of Dorsey as anyone here. I loved the hire. I loved his attitude and personality.

But he's a ****ing horrible GM. Just bad in the way herpes is bad...

Originally Posted by jamesincanada (Post 10696677)

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 10694998)

They should have had the balls to rebuild in year 1. Instead they give up 2 seconds for a veteran QB and basically waste a season trying to make a run. Waste in the big picture. It sold seats and keeps fans spending money for a few years, so in that sense it isn't a waste for the Hunt family.

They should have rebuilt by trading the older guys - Albert, Flowers, Hali, accumulating draft picks (trade down from the 1.1) and building from there.

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 10696689)

I don't know why this Flowers deal is put at his feet. He didn't give him the contract, he didn't cause his play to decline.

I don't agree that more talent has vacated. Who did we really lose? Albert is the only one I think is worth a salt besides Flowers.

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 10696710)

No one is trading for those contracts. Their high cap numbers prohibted any trade for Hali or Flowers. I agree Albert should have been traded last year when he was tagged though.

I don't agree though about the rebuild. Jamaal, DJ, Hali go through a 3rd rebuild? That's awful to just waste their primes.

I have no problem with what they did last year besides signing Fasano and Chase.

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 10696689)

I don't know why this Flowers deal is put at his feet. He didn't give him the contract, he didn't cause his play to decline.

I don't agree that more talent has vacated. Who did we really lose? Albert is the only one I think is worth a salt besides Flowers.