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OctoberFart 10-04-2016 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12463320)
Any team that has an aerial attack and can protect their quarterback will beat KC.

Cinci, GB, Pitt etc..

Oakland, Saints, Falcons and Chargers.

New World Order 10-04-2016 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by OctoberFart (Post 12465315)
Oakland, Saints, Falcons and Chargers.


I expect Alex to actually play well against Oakland.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-04-2016 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12465266)
ROFL

I'd say we're gonna be closer to '98 than '95...

We'll be lucky to make the playoffs.

Wasn't 95 the shitty Bono year? Or was that 96?

RunKC 10-04-2016 11:05 AM

ESPN: Andy Reid has had QB Alex Smith drop back to pass 70.9% of the time this season, tied with the JAX for most in the NFL

And that is a huge problem. Run the ball Andy and then utilize play action. That's literally what this team did last year when it played well...

Discuss Thrower 10-04-2016 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12465709)
ESPN: Andy Reid has had QB Alex Smith drop back to pass 70.9% of the time this season, tied with the JAX for most in the NFL

And that is a huge problem. Run the ball Andy and then utilize play action. That's literally what this team did last year when it played well...

Probably skewed from the situation KC has found themselves in outside of the Jets game.

Beef Supreme 10-04-2016 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12465718)
Probably skewed from the situation KC has found themselves in outside of the Jets game.

ROFL Yeah, those screen passes are really the obvious strategic reaction to being in a big hole.

Discuss Thrower 10-04-2016 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet (Post 12465723)
ROFL Yeah, those screen passes are really the obvious strategic reaction to being in a big hole.

If I had the time, I'd look at QB performance controlling for "garbage" time.

OctoberFart 10-04-2016 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12465709)
ESPN: Andy Reid has had QB Alex Smith drop back to pass 70.9% of the time this season, tied with the JAX for most in the NFL

And that is a huge problem. Run the ball Andy and then utilize play action. That's literally what this team did last year when it played well...

Why would Andy start using his all pro running backs to their potential this late in his career. Brian Westbrook was never used to full potential. The fat man just loves to toss a screen and call it extension of the running game.

RunKC 10-04-2016 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12465718)
Probably skewed from the situation KC has found themselves in outside of the Jets game.

Possession #1-The first 6 plays of the game were passes.
PIT TD 8-0
Possession #2-ware fumble
PIT 15-0
Possession #3-We run the ball for 8 yards on 2 carries. 3rd and 2 with your running game going? Let's throw a screen pass.

It was always pass first.

Discuss Thrower 10-04-2016 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12465744)
Possession #1-The first 6 plays of the game were passes.
PIT TD 8-0
Possession #2-ware fumble
PIT 15-0
Possession #3-We run the ball for 8 yards on 2 carries. 3rd and 2 with your running game going? Let's throw a screen pass.

It was always pass first.

Maybe they've figured out that they're running into eight/nine men in the box and are trying to loosen up defenses to allow the screen game to operate.

Beef Supreme 10-04-2016 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12465747)
Maybe they've figured out that they're running into eight/nine men in the box and are trying to loosen up defenses to allow the screen game to operate.

I hope everyone can hear the sarcasm in this post.

Discuss Thrower 10-04-2016 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet (Post 12465763)
I hope everyone can hear the sarcasm in this post.

Thought the whole point of the WCO, especially Reid's, was using the short passing game as an extension of the running game but also an opportunity to use mismatches to get TDs or at least big chunks of yards with the deeper passing game existing to keep defenses honest or to make up scoring deficits.

The weakness in this is in shutting down both the run and short passing game you must rely on deep passes to keep the chains moving...

ScareCrowe 10-04-2016 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12465744)
Possession #1-The first 6 plays of the game were passes.
PIT TD 8-0
Possession #2-ware fumble
PIT 15-0
Possession #3-We run the ball for 8 yards on 2 carries. 3rd and 2 with your running game going? Let's throw a screen pass.

It was always pass first.

Yeah & I also don't think that excuse works for the Houston game either as we were never down more than 10, and that wasn't late enough in the game where the run has to be abandoned.

I think the lack of actual running plays has been a big part of the problem with the offense, which is strange considering we've actually done pretty well on yards per carry. The Chiefs rank 8th in yds/carry & 23rd in yds/game, 29th in runs attempted.

Aspengc8 10-04-2016 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12465772)
Thought the whole point of the WCO, especially Reid's, was using the short passing game as an extension of the running game but also an opportunity to use mismatches to get TDs or at least big chunks of yards with the deeper passing game existing to keep defenses honest or to make up scoring deficits.

The weakness in this is in shutting down both the run and short passing game you must rely on deep passes to keep the chains moving...

One issue is the execution of the bubbles/screens they run. From watching the A22, most of the time its a good call, ie we are getting a 3x2 advantage. Problem is we are missing blocks.

3x2- bubble should net positive yardage. Defense slides a defender out, or goes man for a 3x3 look, check to run because there are less in the box. Spread offense is pretty simple, but they need to execute.

rabblerouser 10-07-2016 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12449121)
Someone thought this was a stupid post.


Time will tell. We can compare results when the Chiefs play Pittsburgh next week.

Philly stomped Pittsburgh.

Pit stomped us.

Doug Pedersen has Philly humming. Reid still has KC stuck in neutral. Or reverse...


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