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Prison Bitch 11-24-2015 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11904149)
Other than Zobrist getting some time there if re-signed, at least at the start of the season (unless they do a bad contract swap on Infante), I'd think Parra is an option. And perhaps a trade for someone like Osuna if the price becomes more reasonable.

Golfing Sunday, brought up your arbitration restructure idea. I long advocated some type of 10-20% escrow on all contracts, divvied out after the season based on production. But your way is cleaner and won't cause argument.


But my buddy said: "Don't you get it? Hitting it big is the American Dream. They are ok being screwed early because they all believe they'll hit the jackpot year 7. It's how lotteries sell tickets, why socialism gets voted down. They sit next to Omar Infante and know he's getting 8M and that makes them ok waiting for FA."

suzzer99 11-24-2015 11:43 AM

My impression of golfing with PB: starts with two holes of Royals, inevitably morphs into 16 holes of Obummer.

duncan_idaho 11-24-2015 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11904179)
Golfing Sunday, brought up your arbitration restructure idea. I long advocated some type of 10-20% escrow on all contracts, divvied out after the season based on production. But your way is cleaner and won't cause argument.


But my buddy said: "Don't you get it? Hitting it big is the American Dream. They are ok being screwed early because they all believe they'll hit the jackpot year 7. It's how lotteries sell tickets, why socialism gets voted down. They sit next to Omar Infante and know he's getting 8M and that makes them ok waiting for FA."

It's going to be interesting to see how it works out long term.

If teams start being "smarter" about long-term deals for guys in their 30s, and the FA dollars start drying up, it may open some eyes on the payday issue.

Ultimately, I hope it stays the way it is, because it helps level the playing field for teams like KC.

Prison Bitch 11-24-2015 01:32 PM

It absolutely helps KC. These dipshit big markets blow their loads on "stars" and they immediately turn into pumpkins. We bargain-shop and get the same productivity (in 2015 it was much higher).


That said, I was all wrong about younger players demanding a bigger slice. I didn't factor in the American dreamer. The jackpot is out there. And it's too alluring for young guys, many who have no college or much money sense. Plus agents tell them to NEVER sign away arb years - they're a huge factor here too.

Fansy the Famous Bard 11-24-2015 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11904425)
It absolutely helps KC. These dipshit big markets blow their loads on "stars" and they immediately turn into pumpkins. We bargain-shop and get the same productivity (in 2015 it was much higher).


That said, I was all wrong about younger players demanding a bigger slice. I didn't factor in the American dreamer. The jackpot is out there. And it's too alluring for young guys, many who have no college or much money sense. Plus agents tell them to NEVER sign away arb years - they're a huge factor here too.

It works until one big-market team starts using small market values. Then it blows everything up.

suzzer99 11-24-2015 03:23 PM

Hosmer crushes the rest of the league in "clutch". http://www.fangraphs.com/community/e...in-the-league/

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The statistic “Clutch” quantifies how much better or worse a batter performs in high-leverage situations compared to a neutral situation. This does not necessarily make or break a good player. However, the statistic can show the track record of a player’s ability (or inability) to elevate his own game in big moments. The scale is centered at an average player clutch rating of 0 and typically ranges from -2 to 2 in any given season, with 2 being considered both a rare and excellent rating. This statistic is better used to look at what has happened in the past rather than predict the future. To my surprise, Hosmer has dominated the clutch leader boards the last five years. Not Miggy, not Longo, not Big Papi. Hosmer.

Since his debut season in 2011, Hosmer has a cumulative clutch rating of 5.49 while the league average has been -0.38 according to fangraphs.com. The second-highest in that time span? Jacoby Ellsbury at 4.41, over a full point away. To this point in his career, Hosmer has a cumulative clutch rating that ranks 22nd in baseball history. He is ahead of legends such as Ken Griffey (5.35), Rickey Henderson (4.91), and fellow Royal George Brett (4.79). His 2015 campaign that yielded a clutch rating of 2.17 was one of the top 100 greatest clutch seasons ever recorded (tied for 63rd). Although there is no way to prove Hosmer will remain a clutch hitter, he is currently on pace to smash the all-time highest career clutch rating set by Hall-of-Famer Tony Gwynn (9.49).
Maybe A-rod was onto something after all.

CaliforniaChief 11-24-2015 03:41 PM

Another pitcher I'd look at is Tim Lincecum. I just read something today about his comeback attempt, that he's feeling well. Would think a 1-year "prove it" deal with our defense in that park would be appealing.

ChiTown 11-24-2015 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 11904704)
Hosmer crushes the rest of the league in "clutch". http://www.fangraphs.com/community/e...in-the-league/



Maybe A-rod was onto something after all.

Which is why his power numbers won't keep anyone away from offering him a giant contract after the 2017 season. He's going to get an 8/$184MM type deal.

ILChief 11-24-2015 08:45 PM

Has any free agent of note signed? If this was the NFL all the big names would be gone by now

srvy 11-24-2015 10:29 PM

Its a bit slow now.

But on a side note I had a Bricks sighting today in a chiefs related thread.

TomBarndtsTwin 11-25-2015 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 11904755)
Another pitcher I'd look at is Tim Lincecum. I just read something today about his comeback attempt, that he's feeling well. Would think a 1-year "prove it" deal with our defense in that park would be appealing.

Not a bad lottery ticket to scratch if could be gotten cheaply enough . . . .

Maybe big incentive laden contract?

1 year/ 8 mil., potential to make up to $12-13 mil. ???

Lex Luthor 11-25-2015 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11897833)
All starts with "team leader" Jose Bautista. Who is a dick and sets the tone of dickishness for the entire team.

I don't have a big problem with the way he flips his bat. It's a little dickish, but I can also understand it. But the way he totally misplayed the pop fly in shallow right field, let it drop in front of him while he stood there flat-footed, and then blamed the whole thing on Ryan Goins after the game was total dickishness.

He is a ****ing douchebag.

duncan_idaho 11-25-2015 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lex Luthor (Post 11906209)
I don't have a big problem with the way he flips his bat. It's a little dickish, but I can also understand it. But the way he totally misplayed the pop fly in shallow right field, let it drop in front of him while he stood there flat-footed, and then blamed the whole thing on Ryan Goins after the game was total dickishness.

He is a ****ing douchebag.

Him being an asshole has nothing to do with his bat flips. I don't have any problem with that.

ChiefsCountry 11-25-2015 01:03 PM

Cubs traded for Rex Brothers per Twitter.

SPATCH 11-25-2015 10:21 PM

I saw an idea floated online that the Brewers might be interested in flipping bad contracts with the Royals by trading Matt Garza to KC for Omar Infante.

Think it makes a lot of sense. Garza struggled quite a bit in Milwaukee but would be a definite bounceback candidate in KC.


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