Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole1056 (Post 15792199)

I could see Darwin getting traded, just isn’t room for him on the roster these days.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15792204)

Darwin has no trade value.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15792203)

Who are these teams that are just trading for players that haven't done shit?

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15792223)

My list of realistic tradeble players:

Baker
LDT (injured though, so idk)
Remmers
Blythe
Saunders
Parks
Bell

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 15792208)

Whoa! Everyone is worth something.

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 15792192)

Wasnt your profile pick some Wr who did this for years...

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15792244)

Exactly! Terrence Copper.

Everybody wanted his ass gone. Every goddamn year. They hated him.

"Waaahhhh Ashlie Lelie caught a couple TDs in preseason! And we're keeping Copper over him! Stuuuupid!!!!"

Same shit every ****ing year. These supposed awesome castoffs and UDFAs with "potential" would be there in camp, do something against 3rd stringers in preseason, get peoples' hopes up because 'POTENCHUL!!!" and then get ****ing cut. And none of those losers ever did jack shit elsewhere in the league.

Meanwhile everybody menstruated because we kept a player the coaches valued for his special teams contributions. And ironically, Copper actually way outproduced those potential-laden WRs with his whopping 150 yards a year or whatever it was.

I get it. The Chiefs weren't very good at WR in those seasons anyway, and fans just wanted to see improvement, but all their faith in these camp ****s was entirely misplaced. Apparently the same problem still rings true.

I'd argue it's not the potential people like. It's more just that these assholes are new and different. Again, we've seen the potential awesome UDFA WR make the roster under Reid. It's happened multiple times. And those guys have stuck around and done stuff in games. But their sheen wears off after a year, and if those guys don't turn into Miles Austin, fans turn on them and instantly focus on the next asshole with potential.

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15792246)

LDT also has a no trade clause.

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15792259)

Pining for some slapdick WR is a hell of a lot better than hoping whatever chode the Chiefs brought in at QB would be the next savior of the franchise. LMAO ****s like Croyle and Stanzi were our only hope.

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15792060)

Since this thread is winding down, here's my 53 projection. Criticize away:

QB: Mahomes, Henne
RB: Edwards-Helaire, Williams, McKinnon, Thompson
FB: Burton

WR: Hill, Hardman, Pringle, Robinson, Powell, Kemp
TE: Kelce, Bell, Gray

LT: Brown, Remmers
LG: Thuney, Allegretti
C: Humphrey, Blythe
RG: Smith, Duvarney-Tardif
RT: Niang, Wylie

DE: Clark, Charlton, Kaindoh
DT: Wharton, Saunders
DT: Nnadi, Reed
DE: Jones, Danna, Ward

OLB: Gay, Harris
ILB: Hitchens, Niemann
OLB: Bolton, Harris

CB: Sneed, Ward, Hughes, Fenton, Baker
S: Mathieu, Sorensen, Parks, Watts

K: Butker
P: Colquitt
LS: Winchester

Kinda hurt to cut Okafor, Cobb, BoPete Keyes, but what can you do.

Originally Posted by penchief (Post 15792278)

Colquitt over Townsend?

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15792300)

I could see Allegretti getting traded. They’ve got Blythe and LDT, Andy for some reason loves him some Andrew Wylie for god knows why, and we have Kyle Long. Did I mention Remmers could easily play G?

Allegretti struggled with pass pro and he’s only got one more year after this one on a rookie contract.

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 15792359)

What the **** guys. We didn't rebuild the O line just to trade all the depth and end up right back where we started if there's injuries.

Originally Posted by Renegade (Post 15792067)

I wouldn't be surprised if LDT starts the year on IR.

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15792060)

Since this thread is winding down, here's my 53 projection. Criticize away:

QB: Mahomes, Henne
RB: Edwards-Helaire, Williams, McKinnon, Thompson
FB: Burton

WR: Hill, Hardman, Pringle, Robinson, Powell, Kemp
TE: Kelce, Bell, Gray

LT: Brown, Remmers
LG: Thuney, Allegretti
C: Humphrey, Blythe
RG: Smith, Duvarney-Tardif
RT: Niang, Wylie

DE: Clark, Charlton, Kaindoh
DT: Wharton, Saunders
DT: Nnadi, Reed
DE: Jones, Danna, Ward

OLB: Gay, Harris
ILB: Hitchens, Niemann
OLB: Bolton, Harris

CB: Sneed, Ward, Hughes, Fenton, Baker
S: Mathieu, Sorensen, Parks, Watts

K: Butker
P: Colquitt
LS: Winchester

Kinda hurt to cut Okafor, Cobb, BoPete Keyes, but what can you do.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15792431)

The FB is making the team. Reid loves his FB's, he's always had one on his roster even when other teams have completely phased them out. They went out and sought out a FB to replace Sherman.

Reid wants a FB. Sorry, but it's happening.

Neither Gray nor Fortson are even remotely similar in physical ability. A 6-6" FB? C'mon man....

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15792448)

Are they really going to keep a full-time FB just to run 50 plays next year?

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15792449)

So if you're not counting Burton on your final roster, you're automatically wrong.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15792452)

This is just like the people who said we wouldn't start a rookie/multiple on the O-line because Reid doesn't start rookies.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15792451)

Yes.

They didn't go out and sign one away from New Orleans because they're phasing it out.

The Fullback is in Andy's DNA.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15792300)

I could see Allegretti getting traded. They’ve got Blythe and LDT, Andy for some reason loves him some Andrew Wylie for god knows why, and we have Kyle Long. Did I mention Remmers could easily play G?

Allegretti struggled with pass pro and he’s only got one more year after this one on a rookie contract.

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15792133)

I think that's very possible.

I actually think the Chiefs have a ton of tradable guys, such as Fortson, Fountain, and Wenogho.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15792460)

You act as if they got in some bidding war with NO to get him. As if he wasn't just some FA they signed just like any other.

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15792100)

It's not hard to find UDFA WRs each year who have the exact same qualities as Fountain. He's not rare or special. His time with the Colts isn't some revelation that gives him a huge leg up. It's basically the same ****ing story as Marcus Kemp. Training camp, big buzz, gets repeatedly cut/squaded/rostered. Eventually shit settled down enough for him to log.... 2 total career catches. That's the exact same number as Marcus Kemp.

Again, we said the same shit about Marcus Kemp. "Tall fast strong!" When Mahomes was a rookie in 2017 and threw his first ever (preseason) TD pass? That was to Marcus Kemp. "These two are gonna grow up well together!"

We see these players every ****ing year. Fountain isn't special. He might make the roster, and he might even move up the depth chart a little bit, but where is the mother****er going to be around this time next year? The exact same position as Kemp. On the roster bubble.

Why not look to a player who had all that potential yadda yadda yadda and actually played up to it by becoming more than a special teams grunt with 2 catches to his name? Daurice Fountain has 2 catches in his career? Byron Pringle has 2 TOUCHDOWNS in his career. He's played in 29 games. It's quite possible that Fountain will never be an active player in the regular season for HALF that many. And that's with Pringle losing an entire year due to injury.

All that work for Pringle and what has it gotten him? WR4. And that's fine. I'm not shitting on him. He can play several more years in the NFL being a WR4. He can have an actual career. But that's somebody who "played up to his potential."

If Fountain plays up to his potential, he'll be right there with Pringle. No better.

Originally Posted by penchief (Post 15792278)

Colquitt over Townsend?

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 15792587)

Sorry but this is BS. Kemp was a raw undrafted free agent who was a practice squad player before being elevated to the roster to play special teams. Fountain was a talented wr in college who got taken in the 5th round, played in the NFL but injuries hampered his progress. So it's apples and oranges...one wasn't good enough to be drafted whilst the other was but was held back by injuries and that's the only reason why things didn't work in indy..it had nothing to do with talent.

Also people keep banging on about "Kemp is a Toub guy" but Fountain also plays special teams and there's no way in hell Andy is going to let a BETTER WR go because of special teams...no chance.

And also Daurice has never bounced around various teams...he was put on indys practice squad after missing time through injury and veach picked him up off there and he came straight to KC to fight for a place on the roster...and imo another big game tonight from him would pretty much seal the deal...LET'S GO DF!! :D

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15792131)

While the Chiefs have clearly been playing him with the 1s this week, he's also getting torched in the 11 v 11s.

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 15792592)

ONE PLAY against TYREEK?? really? ROFL

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15792131)

While the Chiefs have clearly been playing him with the 1s this week, he's also getting torched in the 11 v 11s.

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 15792587)

Sorry but this is BS. Kemp was a raw undrafted free agent who was a practice squad player before being elevated to the roster to play special teams. Fountain was a talented wr in college who got taken in the 5th round, played in the NFL but injuries hampered his progress. So it's apples and oranges...one wasn't good enough to be drafted whilst the other was but was held back by injuries and that's the only reason why things didn't work in indy..it had nothing to do with talent.

Also people keep banging on about "Kemp is a Toub guy" but Fountain also plays special teams and there's no way in hell Andy is going to let a BETTER WR go because of special teams...no chance.

And also Daurice has never bounced around various teams...he was put on indys practice squad after missing time through injury and veach picked him up off there and he came straight to KC to fight for a place on the roster...and imo another big game tonight from him would pretty much seal the deal...LET'S GO DF!! :D

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 15792589)

This mf is arguing about a 5th round wideout who couldnt stick on a team vs a udfa like theres a whole hell of a lot of difference on the success rate at that point.

Edit: Kemp is bigger and faster you butt ****ing moron.

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15792606)

You think he's played well?

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 15792622)

You better get your kneepads ready and your mouth lubbed because you're going to be slurping Fountain's dick by the time this thing is over buddy nlm

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15792619)

You're right. That was unfair of me. Daurice Fountain isn't Marcus Kemp.

He's Jehu Chesson.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15792660)

I think you’re discounting his insane overall athleticism a bit. He’s got that to separate himself from the average old end-of-bench WR scrub.

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15792669)

Not trying to hate. I love all my roster bubble training camp heroes equally. Each one precious and special in his own way.

Originally Posted by bringbackmarty (Post 15792368)

I said this in a thread a couple weeks ago, both tard and long are good pup candidates. Get them both healthy and ship them out for whatever we can get in return.

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 15792942)

So, nobody thinks DOD makes the team ?

And I know James Winchester is really good , but he only plays the one position. It really seems to be a waste of a roster spot.

Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 15792857)

Would prefer to see another week of preseason games before an attempt to guess KC Chiefs roster.

Adding in some practice squad players. Only have 9 PS and squad will be 16, so others can be added. The dead money will be lost when player is cut to establish the 53 man roster..

2021 Chiefs Roster

Offense - 26
QB (2) Patrick Mahomes and Chad Henne
PS Shane Buechele ($175,000 of dead money)

RB/FB (4) Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Darrel Williams, Jerick McKinnon, and Michael Burton.
PS Darwin Thompson ($63,920 dead money)

WR (6) Tyreek Hill, Mecole Hardman, Byron Pringle, Demarcus Robinson, Cornell Powell, and Daurice Fountain.
PS Marcus Kemp ($0 dead money)

OL (10) LT Orlando Brown , LG Joe Thuney, C Creed Humphry, RG Trey Smith , RT, Lucas Niang, C/G Nick Allegretti, OL Kyle Long, C/G Austin Blythe, G Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, OL Mike Remmers.
Cut Andrew Wylie($0 Dead money) but bring back after put Kyle Long on IR. This allows Long to be brought back after week 3.
PS Yasir Durant ($6,667 dead money) and Prince Tega Wanogho ($0 dead money),

TE (4) Travis Kelce, Blake Bell, Noah Gray, and Jody Fortson.

Defense - 24
DL (9) Frank Clark, Chris Jones, Jurran Reed, Derrick Nnadi, Khalen Saunders, Michael Danna, Tershawn Wharton, Joshua Kaindoh, and Tim Ward
If Chiefs can make a trade or sign another DE, then Kaindoh or Ward would be cut and KC would try to sign to PS.

LB (5) Anthony Hitchens, Willie Gay Jr, Ben Niemann, Nick Bolton, and Omari Cobb
PS Riley Cole ($100,000 dead money) and Darius Harris ($0 dead money),

S (4) Tyrann Mathieu, Armani Watts, Juan Thornhill, and Daniel Sorensen.
PS Devon Key ($65,000 dead money) and Zayne Anderson ($10,000 dead money)
.
CB/DB (6) Charvarius Ward, Rashad Fenton, L’Jarius Sneed, Thakarius Bopete Keyes, Deandre Baker, and Mike Hughes.
If Chiefs can make a trade or sign another CB, then Keyes would be cut and KC would try to sign to PS.

SPECIAL TEAMS (3) – K Harrison Butker, LS James Winchester, and P Tommy Townsend
.
PS member $8,400 per week

Originally Posted by neech (Post 15793002)

We've been bamboozled by the team's view of Gray being good. He's just handsome so he had a foot-in. But looks only get you so far, hit the bench kid!

Originally Posted by neech (Post 15793002)

We've been bamboozled by the team's view of Gray being good. He's just handsome so he had a foot-in. But looks only get you so far, hit the bench kid!

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 15793950)

That Fountain guy is making it hard for the coaches to get rid of him I think.

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 15793972)

He looks better than D Robb so far.

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15794143)

Ummmm

This sounds bad

https://twitter.com/sammcdowell11/st...201643528?s=21

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15794156)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">That’s the injury that happened to Michael Thomas. A month won’t be enough I fear. If it’s high ankle sprain too, his entire 2021 outlook takes major hit</p>&mdash; burner (@nb24811) <a href="https://twitter.com/nb24811/status/1429036357201154055?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 21, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

yikes

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 15794160)

Blocking is more important than who the RB is. We should have no problem going into battle with William's. He knows the offense and can be trusted.

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15794166)

McKinnon

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 15794168)

Who hasn’t exactly been durable in his career.

Burt gonna have to work some cutdown trade wizardry.

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 15794181)

Rather than panic at the musings of a Twitter rando with 2 followers, I think I’m gonna take a wait and see approach to CEH’s ankle.

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 15794181)

Rather than panic at the musings of a Twitter rando with 2 followers, I think I’m gonna take a wait and see approach to CEH’s ankle.

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15794199)

I say just rest CEH until he’s 100%. The postseason is what matters most. The Chiefs are in no danger of missing it.

Also, the gap between the Chiefs and the AFC is greater than we (or any other fan base) realizes. There still are zero teams in the AFC that can match QB, HC, and overall roster talent. No one in the AFC does anything at such a high level that the Chiefs can’t contend.

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 15793950)

That Fountain guy is making it hard for the coaches to get rid of him I think.

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 15794416)

Gotta be honest. If Josh Allen improved with a full offseason, and worked on the issues he struggles with, they’re our biggest and closest competitors. And I think it’s closer than we think. They have an offense that has the ability to keep up with us, and if their coach pulls a rabbit out of his ass then he could out coach Andy (as we just saw Arians do in the SB). Hopefully our defense takes a step forward and our offense doesn’t have any significant injuries.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15794629)

Not unless their rookie DE's are both studs. They don't have enough defense.

A healthy Cleveland is a better roster, in my opinion. And they're still not in KC's league barring major injuries.