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Tribal Warfare 07-20-2013 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9824583)
With this schedule, coaching staff and personnel, they are going 11-5 and winning the division.

even when Smith gets injured around mid season?

Saccopoo 07-20-2013 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9824600)
even when Smith gets injured around mid season?

Welcome to the playoffs Mr. Daniel.

RunKC 07-20-2013 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 9823432)
I would disagree.

It may have not been printed on the banners but sick of losing is what fueled the fire. If you can't see that you're naive.

A lot of the fans flying the banners wanted Mark Sanchez and Geno Smith.

If they were the GM's, this organization would still be ****ed.

Kaepernick 07-20-2013 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9823558)
So Harbaugh's schemes actually held Alex back? LMAO

Yeah, see, that's why Harbaugh turned Kaepernick loose after benching Alex. Jim held Alex back from being the gun-slinging gambler he's always wanted to be. :doh!:

ShortRoundChief 07-20-2013 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9824628)
A lot of the fans flying the banners wanted Mark Sanchez and Geno Smith.

If they were the GM's, this organization would still be ****ed.

If I had a 15 inch dong I'd be long dong diddy

RunKC 07-20-2013 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9823511)
The problem is that his YPA is complete misinformation.

He's not a guy who throws the ball down the field.

He was near the bottom of the league in yards per completion.

It's real easy to prop up a mediocre QB with completion percentage and QB rating.

Meanwhile he's still only producing 190 yards a game (or less).

Alex Smith is fool's gold.

You don't look at logic at all. Dane was 100% right about you Clay. You go directly by your own narrative.

Kaepernick 07-20-2013 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9823604)
They were. Some people want to overlook a few things here, because to look at them would put a dent in their agenda.

**** snip ****

Is Alex limited? Eh... if compared to some of the freakish QBs emerging in the league. He can make all the throws though, and is fairly athletic himself. Andy Reid wouldn't have given up that much if he agreed with others here in that Alex is mediocre at best. I think many people know he is good... but they also feel (and have a point) that he isn't exciting. And these days, the fantasy football kiddies want the big plays and dynamic ball-chucking.

There are a lot of valid reasons for why our offensive numbers were not eye-popping. Still though, it was some impressive efficiency happening despite the aforementioned issues.

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Originally Posted by Greg Cosell
It’s very easy to blame Kyle Williams for the 49ers NFC Championship defeat. Certainly, without his punt return mistakes, San Francisco had a legitimate chance to advance to Super Bowl 46.

It could be argued that the 49ers played their brand of football against the Giants. They ran the ball 28 times for 150 yards, including 2 runs by Alex Smith out of the read option. Smith threw 26 passes, completing 12 for 196 yards and 2 beautiful touchdowns to Vernon Davis. He did not throw an interception. That’s the kind of offensive balance and efficiency the 49ers have preached, and executed, all season.

No miscues by Williams deep in San Francisco territory, and 49ers football reigns. I imagine the faithful see it that way. For those who do, the discussion is over. Nothing more needs to be said or evaluated.

It’s never that simple. As always, a careful study of the coaching tape revealed much more. The NFC Championship should not have been as close as it was. I wrote last week that Smith was the difference against the Saints in the Divisional Playoff, a game in which he was outstanding, especially in critical moments. Unfortunately for the 49ers, against the Giants, Smith was also the difference.

Let’s start with the first 3rd down of the game. It was 3rd and 4; the 49ers had already gotten 1 first down. Michael Crabtree ran a sail route (kind of a flattened corner route). He was wide open. Smith, with no pressure in the pocket, did not pull the trigger. It was a throw that had to be made. The result of the play was an incompletion on a late check down to Frank Gore.

The first play of the 49ers fourth offensive possession was also telling. It was a shot play, a called big play off Smith boot action. Williams ran a deep post off a stutter move. The double move froze Corey Webster, and Williams raced by him. The design of the play worked. Smith overthrew Williams by 5 yards. A good throw, and it was a touchdown. An adequate throw, and it was still a 50 yard gain. This was another missed opportunity.

But the first play of the second half was perhaps the most indicative of Smith’s performance. You come out of halftime with a specific plan. The 49ers went to one of their staples, the wheel route. A shot play right out of the gate. Delanie Walker, from his line of scrimmage tight end position, ran by a slipping Webster. The concept worked to perfection. Walker screamed down the sideline. Smith again did not pull the trigger from a clean pocket. He ended up getting sacked for a 7 yard loss.

These are just a few examples of Smith’s tentative and uncertain pocket play last Sunday. The bottom line was this: Smith was reluctant to let it loose on routes and throws that were not only well designed, but were open. They were primary reads. No progressions were involved.

One of the attributes that separates high level quarterback play in big games and critical moments is the willingness to make stick throws into smaller windows. Smith did that with confidence against the Saints. In the NFC Championship game, he was hesitant and cautious on throws that were clearly defined. Simply put, Smith left a lot of plays on the field against the Giants. While Williams publicly shouldered the burden of defeat, it was his quarterback who failed to deliver on the promise he had shown a week earlier.



http://nflfilms.nfl.com/2012/01/24/c...e-a-week-made/

Kaepernick 07-20-2013 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 9823745)
Dude, you gotta take the risk. That is the point. The Rams took the risk. It is not always going to pan out, but you still have to keep trying. Look at Indy, Jeff George shat all over them yet they didn't hesitate to take another QB when the time was right (Manning). Chiefs don't do this, and have not done so in 40+ years. What also hasn't happened in 40+ years for the Chiefs?

"I know that one! Oh, oh, Mr. Kotter!"

http://coedmagazine.files.wordpress....pg?w=400&h=516

MagicHef 07-21-2013 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9823661)
Sam Bradford = 231 YPG
Alex Smith = 174 YPG

:LOL:

Well, look at the bright side. That is better than the 172 YPG passing Tebow managed.

Although, Tebow also had 55 YPG rushing.

Kaepernick 07-21-2013 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9823856)
No, I don't hope the 49ers lose. They can win with Colt McCoy for all I give a shit. I just don't like Kaepernick. Ill still begrudgingly be rooting for them. You wont see me with a Kaepernick jersey on though.

From the man who once posted here "I'm not a 49ers fan. **** the 49ers!"

Tribal Warfare 07-21-2013 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 9824739)
From the man who once posted here "I'm not a 49ers fan. **** the 49ers!"

He's here to troll his Alex Smith propaganda, and I take that for what it's worth.

Kaepernick 07-21-2013 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 9824202)
According to the CP perspective QB's taken in the second round are flukes. The only way to win a SB is to get one in the first.

Point being you shall not have your cake and eat it too.

If you admit a QB can be had outside of the first round of the draft then you concede that they can be had anywhere.

Sure they can be had anywhere, but the 1st round dominates for finding elite QB talent.

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Discuss Thrower 07-21-2013 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 9824276)
and I hope so, but Haley played ****ing Palko. Why didn't he try the hand of Stanzi. That makes no sense.

In addition to the power play of Haley vs Scooter, I believe Haley saw Palko as an athletic version of himself.

Discuss Thrower 07-21-2013 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9824388)
Yeah, but IIRC, that was due to schedule strength and the Phins having a horseshoe up ass lucky season.

If the Chiefs win 10 games this year, they'll make the playoffs either by winning the division or by WC.

The AFC East will have the Pats and potentially the Phins but I'm not sure they have more than 1 team win 10. The North could potentially have 3 teams win 8 or more, but I figure as usual, they'll beat up on each other.

I think the Broncos, Ravens, Colts, Texans, Bengals, Steelers, fight for the spots, so all we really have to do is beat out one of those teams and I don't see that many 10 win teams there.

Really, the AFC outside the Broncos and really, the Bengals, is fairly weak.

11+ all but clinches a WC. 10-6 I'd guess has a coin flip's chance this season IMHO.

9-7 needs help from a team like Indy, Baltimore, Cinci, or Pittsburgh having mediocre to bad season AND KC being fortunate enough to have a much better conference record assuming one of the aforementioned ties KC on overall record.

Chiefs Pantalones 07-21-2013 02:22 AM

I am quietly optimistic about this year as well. But I have a hard time figuring out if that's because I'm a homer who gets amped every year around this time no matter who our QB is, or if it's because I really believe we can do some damage this year. I'm damaged goods. I see two ways: Smith plays above expectations, the Dline impresses, a #2 WR steps up along with our OL gelling and we win the division or get a WC. Or the opposite lol. Ugh.


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