Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10508527)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY SILOCK!

Have an extra scoop of protein on your special day!

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 10509381)

In some cases, yes. But we are very careful about how we treat older guys with TRT, and that's a clinical cost-benefit conversation that physicians have with their patients. All urologists know a **** ton more about that than I, though.

<b>The idea behind methyl is that it is chemically altered at the 17 alkyl position to inhibit metabolism and allow it to be effective orally. The problem, however, is that 17-alkyl modification is extremely toxic to hepatocytes. We don't have this problem with the creams and depo preps because they are unaltered testosterone and testosterone esters that don't have the same modification. Thus, methyltestoterone is clinically useless. </b>


However, back to the supplement industry, the money is probably there. The incentive, however, is not. That stems mainly from their average consumer not giving a ****.

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10509420)

And that's why I sale a shit ton of Tudca :D

Originally Posted by Silock (Post 10509416)

Screw protein. I'm eating cake.

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 10509446)

What is the mechanism of tudca? How is it absorbed? How does it get to its site of action? How is dosing determined? What if it isn't orally effective, and degraded by gastric enzymes and/or altered to an inactive form in the blood stream? These people just blasted their livers with crap, and yet these key questions probably haven't been answered.

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 10508089)

here I am post workout


http://i.imgur.com/zJv2K1g.jpg

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10509368)

6x?? Good God man.

I have a hard time keeping motivation. It's as if I get bored at the gym after awhile.

Originally Posted by luv (Post 10509476)

I'm at the gym everyday. It's more habit than anything now. I do weight training five days. The other two are cardio or just taking a little more time than usual trying to get a few new things I've learned down.

I find it hard to NOT be motivated at the gym. I have a million and thirty reasons for going. If I've had a bad or frustrating day, it helps. If I'm in a good mood, it only enhances it. I always have a sense of having accomplished something when I leave the gym, and I love that feeling.

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10509461)

Google is your friend. I've seen many people run methly steroids along with Tudca and have unchanged liver values. There are some legit studys on it.

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 10509483)

What? You, personally, check liver enzymes on these people? Or they get CMP's often?

I was honestly asking you because I've never heard of tudca. I wanted to know what it was and how it worked. I guess I can google it, but i assumed you knew since you sell it.

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10508997)

Interesting product I mentioned awhile back as a Test Booster. Apparently a Gaspari Rep ran it and it raised his total T 500 points. That's pretty significant if true.

http://store.lockoutforums.com/index...cts_id=2002935

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10509540)

That would be HUGE if true. What dose did he run that at?

Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 10512324)

I would wait for some real world logs to pop up where guys are getting actual bloodwork done before and after. Laxogenin has showed its face in many other brand's products and has been underwhelming to say the least.

Originally Posted by Douche Baggins (Post 10513119)

Remind me NEVER to go into the locker room at 24 Hr Fitness ever again. That was the largest naked man I have ever seen. FULL FRONTAL. Zounds.