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Warrick 04-19-2020 11:11 PM

I doubt McKinney is there at 32 when the Chiefs are on the clock, but if he is, then he will be on this team over anybody else left in the draft. He's going to be a stud, unfortunately I see him drafted in the 10-15 range.

staylor26 04-19-2020 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Warrick (Post 14917580)
I doubt McKinney is there at 32 when the Chiefs are on the clock, but if he is, then he will be on this team over anybody else left in the draft. He's going to be a stud, unfortunately [/B]I see him drafted in the 10-15 range.[/B]

Not happening. Many people think a safety won’t even be selected in the 1st (Simmons = LB).

Warrick 04-19-2020 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14917581)
Not happening. Many people think a safety won’t even be selected in the 1st (Simmons = LB).

How many of these people were wrong in years past? Be prepared to be shocked, because he will be gone before 32.

Chief Northman 04-19-2020 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14917581)
Not happening. Many people think a safety won’t even be selected in the 1st (Simmons = LB).

McKinney will be a 1st rounder. He’s a better DB than most corners in this class. I expect he goes off the board between 15-25.

Warrick 04-19-2020 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 14917606)
McKinney will be a 1st rounder. He’s a better DB than most corners in this class. I expect he goes off the board between 15-25.

Yeah, I think that's where Chris Simms had him as well.

staylor26 04-19-2020 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Warrick (Post 14917604)
How many of these people were wrong in years past? Be prepared to be shocked, because he will be gone before 32.

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 14917606)
McKinney will be a 1st rounder. He’s a better DB than most corners in this class. I expect he goes off the board between 15-25.

I’m saying he won’t go in the top 10-15 picks.

I definitely think he will be picked before us, just pointing out the difference in his range. He could just as easily end up in the 2nd because somebody prefers Delpit, Chinn, or Winfield.

Warrick 04-20-2020 12:07 AM

Initially I typed 15-20 range, but I still feel a team will pull the trigger earlier, no sense of arguing 5 spots when my main point is that he will gone by 32.

KChiefs1 04-20-2020 12:12 AM

I’m getting a Grant Delpit vibe tonight.

Pitt Gorilla 04-20-2020 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 14917624)
I’m getting a Grant Delpit vibe tonight.

I've been saying that for a while.

Mecca 04-20-2020 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14917451)
BJ Kissel is drafting for the Chiefs in a guest mock on the Locked On NFL Draft podcast.


https://i.imgur.com/TkQX8xn.png
https://i.imgur.com/AGiQRvP.png
https://i.imgur.com/zMpnIsM.jpg

That’s how the board has fallen. Will be back to let you guys know if he ****ed it up, which I’m sure he will.

If it really fell that way, you are basically choosing between Epenesa, McKinney, Winfield and Swift.

Mecca 04-20-2020 08:16 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nfl</a> has informed all teams that for the first time in draft history, they will “stop the clock” if teams exceed the time allotment to allow for trades that are in the process of being completed. The <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nfl</a> is smartly preparing for potential tech challenges.</p>&mdash; Mike Tannenbaum (@RealTannenbaum) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealTannenbaum/status/1251541015770562560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Isn't that awfully nice of them?

staylor26 04-20-2020 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14917840)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nfl</a> has informed all teams that for the first time in draft history, they will “stop the clock” if teams exceed the time allotment to allow for trades that are in the process of being completed. The <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nfl</a> is smartly preparing for potential tech challenges.</p>&mdash; Mike Tannenbaum (@RealTannenbaum) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealTannenbaum/status/1251541015770562560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Isn't that awfully nice of them?

Very smart if you want to keep trades going (and the excitement of them). Otherwise, we’d probably see less trades than usual.

DJ's left nut 04-20-2020 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14917066)
What I’m saying is that there was a very unusual amount of diluted samples this year to the point that it’s likely not a coincidence that it coincided with big changes to the combine format.

When people like Schefter are saying that teams aren’t concerned enough for it to impact Baun’s draft status, I’m going to assume there’s truth to that theory/excuse.

Reuben Foster can’t stay healthy or out of (domestic) trouble, and Peppers was always an athlete with no true position. That’s why their careers haven’t gone so well.

Couldn't it also be that agents/reps/players knew that the dilluted sample wouldn't be taken as a positive test and as such players decided to 'cycle' differently?

The spike in diluted samples (presuming there is one) could just as easily be due to a series of volitional acts that came about as a result of the new rules on drug testing, no? If anything it's more likely, given the ridiculous amount of water one has to consume to dilute a sample. The idea that the new combine format somehow created a wave of these guys slamming enough water immediately before their weight in to create a bunch of dilute tests seems a little odd.

At best I could see some odd quirk where guys decided to chug water right before their weigh in in order to jump their 'tested' weight up and appear to be bigger on their official weight. And if you conduct a drug test shortly thereafter, you'll have guys who are trying to 'goose' their weigh in popping as dilute. That would be pretty benign I suppose. Though when you think about it - it's not impossible to slam a gallon of water, especially these bigger boys. That's 8 extra pounds of weight on their weigh in - that's not insignificant.

Ultimately I just don't think you can hand-waive it as obviously some kind of benign explanation, though. It's also a possibility that there were simply more guys willing to stay on a cycle to get their combine numbers boosted (because I think there are a TON of dudes who cycle on/off PEDs), dilute the sample knowing it wouldn't' count as a positive, and move forward.

DJ's left nut 04-20-2020 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14917387)
yeah, no.

It's some stupid Florio bullshit.

My Yahoo app popped up "Chiefs should trade for Fournette" and I was struck by macabre curiosity. Then I saw it was a Florio article and didn't bother to read any further.

Fournette would absolutely make the team worse. He made the Jags offense worse. He's a horrid fit but of course some idiot mouthbreather thinks "Hey, the Chiefs can throw so obviously they need a banger back!!"

Because...idiot.

DJ's left nut 04-20-2020 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14917481)
Kissel went with Xavier McKinney.

Not a bad pick. I’d be alright with that.

I like McKinney well enough.

But not enough to pass on Epenesa on that board.

I really do love his fit as the strong-side DE on this team. He's absolutely perfect for that role and you've got a probable 10 year player on your hands there. He's just so damn solid.


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