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Frosty 04-28-2012 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8577472)
Let me clarify.

A 5' nothing WR is not a legitimate deep threat with Matt Cassel as his QB.

I woke up in a good mood today because it occurred to me that this draft has RAC's fingerprints all over it, which leads me to believe that Pioli might be deferring to him more. Romeo had no problem yanking Charlie Frye after he sucked in the first game and putting DA in in Cleveland. It gives me hope that the best QB on the roster might actually play most of the season (I realize that better than bad doesn't equal good).

I may be totally off base here but I'm rolling with until proven otherwise. :D

ISUJeff 04-28-2012 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8577502)
No.

Agree, No.

Burfict's issues go much deeper than just some smoking.

DaKCMan AP 04-28-2012 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISUJeff (Post 8577513)
Agree, No.

Burfict's issues go much deeper than just some smoking.

His issues are mostly football (on-field & practice) related. Complete opposite to players who have off-field issues.

DTLB58 04-28-2012 11:19 AM

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center...4-e6ef0775e338

Sit down interview with Wylie @ the combine.

Dylan 04-28-2012 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8577498)
Ben Roethlisberger?

that's a good point.

JohnnyHammersticks 04-28-2012 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8577498)
Ben Roethlisberger?

Yes. Steeler draft pick Ben Roethlisberger helps too.

ISUJeff 04-28-2012 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8577516)
His issues are mostly football (on-field & practice) related. Complete opposite to players who have off-field issues.

His lack of effort and blaming coaches for his drop in production would scare me, and hopefully KC coaches

Dylan 04-28-2012 11:22 AM

great respect for B.Dawk -

the Talking Can 04-28-2012 11:22 AM

damn

boykin to eagles

Frosty 04-28-2012 11:23 AM

I've liked the Eagles' draft

DaKCMan AP 04-28-2012 11:23 AM

Saints take Nick Toon. I like this pick. Now they have another big guy to pair with Colston and replacing Meachem to pair with Henderson and Sproles.

DaKCMan AP 04-28-2012 11:24 AM

**** **** YOU ANDY REID

DaKCMan AP 04-28-2012 11:24 AM

I like the Eagles draft a lot.

Dylan 04-28-2012 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 8577528)
I've liked the Eagles' draft

so do I - but then again, everything looks good on paper

DaKCMan AP 04-28-2012 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 8577533)
so do I - but then again, everything looks good on paper

Not everything. Look at Seattle. ;)

RUSH 04-28-2012 11:25 AM

I love the eagles draft. Boykin should play right away at nickel CB.

chiefzilla1501 04-28-2012 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 8577512)
I woke up in a good mood today because it occurred to me that this draft has RAC's fingerprints all over it, which leads me to believe that Pioli might be deferring to him more. Romeo had no problem yanking Charlie Frye after he sucked in the first game and putting DA in in Cleveland. It gives me hope that the best QB on the roster might actually play most of the season (I realize that better than bad doesn't equal good).

I may be totally off base here but I'm rolling with until proven otherwise. :D

I think we are seeing that Pioli is letting Romeo have some say in his team, whereas he was an arrogant prick with Haley. There are definitely hints that the Chiefs are placing a greater priority on the QB position and I hope that's true. Then again, they talked about going after Peyton, there were talks about going after Stanton, and they hinted at looking heavily into Cousins. They didn't do any of those things, so who the **** knows.

It's a sad reality that barring some kind of miracle, Cassel is probably going to start every game this season. I can only hope for a wild card that somebody in KC is super-impressed with Stanzi or that Daboll's history with Brady Quinn puts him at starter. And even those options don't make me want to do cartwheels.

Dylan 04-28-2012 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8577535)
Not everything. Look at Seattle. ;)

:D

Reaper16 04-28-2012 11:26 AM

Buffalo taking Brooks was a shrewd pick.

DTLB58 04-28-2012 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8577510)
Because he is a shitty RB who now has no other value to the team.

He is good enough for 3rd string behind Charles and Hillis (as long as they don't draft someone else today). He gives a different dimension, like Wylie at WR compared to what we already have there.

I wouldn't just cut him, he has value.

Dylan 04-28-2012 11:31 AM

If the Giants don't select offensive linemen - I'll scream

I can't bear to watch another Giants / 49ers game this season - shoot me

Frosty 04-28-2012 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8577539)
I think we are seeing that Pioli is letting Romeo have some say in his team, whereas he was an arrogant prick with Haley.

I get the impression that Pioli looks up to Crennel. Crennel was a head coach before and has a bunch of rings as a coordinator. Pioli probably felt that he had to reign in Haley and protect Haley from himself where he doesn't have to do that with Romeo.

rico 04-28-2012 11:33 AM

I'd love it if the Chiefs picked up Antonio Allen here. I think eventually, they will end up with either Cyrus Gray or Shaun Prater in one of the upcoming rounds..

Dylan 04-28-2012 11:33 AM

oh please, Mike Pope can make a good TE out of any UDFA -- He's been doing that since Bavaro

Why a TE?

The Giants need to protect Eli

DaKCMan AP 04-28-2012 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 8577555)
If the Giants don't select offensive linemen - I'll scream

I can't bear to watch another Giants / 49ers game this season - shoot me

They should look at Zebrie Sanders.

chiefs1111 04-28-2012 11:34 AM

wow there goes another FB

Longrun Chief 04-28-2012 11:35 AM

The Raiders are on the clock. Another glimpse into Reggie McKenzie's draft strategy.

DTLB58 04-28-2012 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 8577557)
I get the impression that Pioli looks up to Crennel. Crennel was a head coach before and has a bunch of rings as a coordinator. Pioli probably felt that he had to reign in Haley and protect Haley from himself where he doesn't have to do that with Romeo.

Romeo did say before the draft he wanted fast WR's.

DaKCMan AP 04-28-2012 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricoswaff (Post 8577562)
I'd love it if the Chiefs picked up Antonio Allen here. I think eventually, they will end up with either Cyrus Gray or Shaun Prater in one of the upcoming rounds..

I'm fine with Allen or Iloka.

DTLB58 04-28-2012 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefs1111 (Post 8577569)
wow there goes another FB

Good, take them all, we don't need to blow another pick on one again this year!

rico 04-28-2012 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8577576)
I'm fine with Allen or Iloka.

God, I keep forgetting that Iloka is still on the board. I wouldn't mind having him either.

Dylan 04-28-2012 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8577568)
They should look at Zebrie Sanders.

offensive linemen is not in their head. same shit, different toilet

I'm sure they will select a defensive player next.

chop 04-28-2012 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8577471)
He doesn't add any dimension we don't already have, IMO. Breaston does better what Wright would do.

If he is a Welker type of WR, he will be doing a lot of shorter routes in hopes he breaks one. Quoted wrong comment.

Frosty 04-28-2012 11:42 AM

NFLN ignoring the draft to cover the RG3 welcoming party in Washington. :spock:

Frosty 04-28-2012 11:43 AM

Dylan gets her wish

Dylan 04-28-2012 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 8577599)
NFLN ignoring the draft to cover the RG3 welcoming party in Washington. :spock:

On the Giants selection, no less! F word

DaKCMan AP 04-28-2012 11:43 AM

Giants take your OL. Mosley from Auburn.

the Talking Can 04-28-2012 11:43 AM

giants take mosley

good pick

Dylan 04-28-2012 11:45 AM

OMG an offensive linemen?

Watch, they'll sit him for two years - and use all their broke dicks

thanks, guys

DTLB58 04-28-2012 11:47 AM

Posted by Mike Florio on April 28, 2012, 1:28 PM EDT

Four years ago, the Dolphins opted for a left tackle over a franchise quarterback, taking Jake Long instead of Matt Ryan with the first pick in the draft. With the Dolphins using a first-round pick in 2012 on the player they hope will become the team’s next franchise quarterback, the Dolphins also may have acquired their next cornerstone left tackle.

Mike Berardino of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel believes that the arrival of Jonathan Martin via round two could eventually mean the end of the line for Long.

Martin played sparingly at right tackle during his college career, and if the Dolphins decide to move on from Long, Martin could take over on the left side.

As Berardino explains it, with the Dolphins admittedly transforming their approach, Long may not fit in the new-look offense. “We’re not going to be as much a power scheme as we’ve been in the past,” G.M. Jeff Ireland said when discussing the decision to take Martin. “So his athletic ability and . . . quickness and ability to play in space transfers to this scheme probably a lot better than any other scheme.”

Long is due to receive a base salary $11.2 million in 2012. Long recently proclaimed that he’s the healthiest he has been in a long time.

milkman 04-28-2012 11:48 AM

I turned on to watch the draft, but what I get now is analysis of every east coast team drafts.

So excited.

DaKCMan AP 04-28-2012 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 8577613)
Posted by Mike Florio on April 28, 2012, 1:28 PM EDT

Four years ago, the Dolphins opted for a left tackle over a franchise quarterback, taking Jake Long instead of Matt Ryan with the first pick in the draft. With the Dolphins using a first-round pick in 2012 on the player they hope will become the team’s next franchise quarterback, the Dolphins also may have acquired their next cornerstone left tackle.

Mike Berardino of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel believes that the arrival of Jonathan Martin via round two could eventually mean the end of the line for Long.

Martin played sparingly at right tackle during his college career, and if the Dolphins decide to move on from Long, Martin could take over on the left side.

As Berardino explains it, with the Dolphins admittedly transforming their approach, Long may not fit in the new-look offense. “We’re not going to be as much a power scheme as we’ve been in the past,” G.M. Jeff Ireland said when discussing the decision to take Martin. “So his athletic ability and . . . quickness and ability to play in space transfers to this scheme probably a lot better than any other scheme.”

Long is due to receive a base salary $11.2 million in 2012. Long recently proclaimed that he’s the healthiest he has been in a long time.

Thanks. As I said at the time of the pick:

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8574372)
Wow. Didn't see the Fins taking Martin.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8574377)
I don't really understand that pick unless they move him to OG. He's not RT.

So this at least rationalizes the selection.

The Franchise 04-28-2012 11:51 AM

I could see the Vikings or Cowboys taking Iloka.

milkman 04-28-2012 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 8577613)
Posted by Mike Florio on April 28, 2012, 1:28 PM EDT

Four years ago, the Dolphins opted for a left tackle over a franchise quarterback, taking Jake Long instead of Matt Ryan with the first pick in the draft. With the Dolphins using a first-round pick in 2012 on the player they hope will become the team’s next franchise quarterback, the Dolphins also may have acquired their next cornerstone left tackle.

Mike Berardino of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel believes that the arrival of Jonathan Martin via round two could eventually mean the end of the line for Long.

Martin played sparingly at right tackle during his college career, and if the Dolphins decide to move on from Long, Martin could take over on the left side.

As Berardino explains it, with the Dolphins admittedly transforming their approach, Long may not fit in the new-look offense. “We’re not going to be as much a power scheme as we’ve been in the past,” G.M. Jeff Ireland said when discussing the decision to take Martin. “So his athletic ability and . . . quickness and ability to play in space transfers to this scheme probably a lot better than any other scheme.”

Long is due to receive a base salary $11.2 million in 2012. Long recently proclaimed that he’s the healthiest he has been in a long time.

This essentially says that they don't believe that Jake Long has the athletic abaility to be an outstanding pass blocker in a more pass oriented offense.

Imagine that.

Reaper16 04-28-2012 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8577623)
This essentially says that they don't believe that Jake Long has the athletic abaility to be an outstanding pass blocker in a more pass oriented offense.

Imagine that.

*sound of AustinChief weeping*

chop 04-28-2012 11:52 AM

Lilja recently stated that Cassel is a good QB and that the Chiefs needed to get better players around him. Maybe he speaks for more people in the organization and that is why the Chiefs are drafting the way they are. Unfortunately for him, he is one of the guys getting replaced.

Bewbies 04-28-2012 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8577623)
This essentially says that they don't believe that Jake Long has the athletic abaility to be an outstanding pass blocker in a more pass oriented offense.

Imagine that.

I could be wrong, but isn't that exactly what we read around here before he was drafted? LMAO

DaKCMan AP 04-28-2012 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8577622)
I could see the Vikings or Cowboys taking Iloka.

Vikes already took Harrison Smith.

ChiefsCountry 04-28-2012 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 8577629)
I could be wrong, but isn't that exactly what we read around here before he was drafted? LMAO

Since you were around here in 2008?

milkman 04-28-2012 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 8577629)
I could be wrong, but isn't that exactly what we read around here before he was drafted? LMAO

That is exactly what I, and many others, said, yes.

DaKCMan AP 04-28-2012 11:55 AM

Vikes loading up on Arky WRs!

chiefs1111 04-28-2012 11:56 AM

Vikes take another wr from Arkansas

chop 04-28-2012 11:57 AM

That Droid Razr commercial is really getting on my nerves.

the Talking Can 04-28-2012 11:58 AM

let's get to this 5th round pick so i can get out of here

DaKCMan AP 04-28-2012 11:58 AM

Dear ESPN,

I'd really like to see that manly woman named Suzy interview the Eagles fat walrus coach. Can you please arrange that?

Thanx,
DaKCMan AP

Frosty 04-28-2012 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8577635)
That is exactly what I, and many others, said, yes.

Can you imagine the shakeup that would have happened had the Mamee Doffins taken Ryan instead? Atlanta probably would have taken Dorsey. I wonder who the Chiefs would have gotten? Ellis? Long? Gholston?

chop 04-28-2012 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8577649)
let's get to this 5th round pick so i can get out of here

What player is it going to take to get you you leave happy?

Frosty 04-28-2012 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chop (Post 8577645)
That Droid Razr commercial is really getting on my nerves.

Thank God for the mute button.

Reaper16 04-28-2012 11:59 AM

Colts made one Hell of a pick there in Josh Chapman. The Colts get their anchor NT for their new 3-4 in the first offseason of transition to that alignment. It took the Chiefs three seasons.

DaKCMan AP 04-28-2012 12:00 PM

Indy could use a RB.

DaKCMan AP 04-28-2012 12:00 PM

Chapman is a nice pick for them.

Bewbies 04-28-2012 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8577634)
Since you were around here in 2008?

I've said before I have been here long before I appeared as Bewbies.

Bewbies 04-28-2012 12:01 PM

Indy takes the NT I wanted with our 3 or 4. They got him in the 5th. Sadface.

the Talking Can 04-28-2012 12:01 PM

colts take chapman....my sweetheart

Frosty 04-28-2012 12:02 PM

Andy Reid on one network and RG3 press conference on the other.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzz

chiefs1111 04-28-2012 12:02 PM

Malik Jackson to Denver

the Talking Can 04-28-2012 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chop (Post 8577658)
What player is it going to take to get you you leave happy?

doesn't really matter at this point, this draft is a b movie

but a safety or running back would be my choice

DaKCMan AP 04-28-2012 12:03 PM

Lions trade up.

the Talking Can 04-28-2012 12:03 PM

i'll bet a dollar chapman has a longer career than poe

Frosty 04-28-2012 12:04 PM

I wanted Polk but the thing about his knee scares me.

Dylan 04-28-2012 12:04 PM

Reid says, "It all starts with me….." same excuse for 13 years

Can the Super Bowl end in a tie? / Eagles

Three runs - success. Two passes - fail / Eagles

Reaper16 04-28-2012 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8577682)
i'll bet a dollar chapman has a longer career than poe

Chapman is way, way better at football.

Coogs 04-28-2012 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8577688)
Chapman is way, way better at football.

Which is why he is a 5th rounder and Poe went at #11.

the Talking Can 04-28-2012 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8577688)
Chapman is way, way better at football.

yup, and plays with more heart too

the Talking Can 04-28-2012 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8577693)
Which is why he is a 5th rounder and Poe went at #11.

poe was drafted on what he did in college?

really?

Titty Meat 04-28-2012 12:07 PM

What's everyone think of Malik Jackson? Guy looks like an athletic beast.

Frosty 04-28-2012 12:07 PM

A lot of talent went in the fourth. A couple of trades down might have netted some really good players.

Titty Meat 04-28-2012 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8577698)
poe was drafted on what he did in college?

really?

He only did bad cuz he played 60 downs a game against spread offenses.

DaKCMan AP 04-28-2012 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8577699)
What's everyone think of Malik Jackson? Guy looks like an athletic beast.

He's a typical 5th round pick. He'll either be a run-stop DE or maybe play inside. A rotational guy. He makes more sense at DE in a 3-4, though, so kind of strange for Denver. He'll need to add weight to play DT and he's not a speed rusher off the edge.

the Talking Can 04-28-2012 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8577703)
He only did bad cuz he played 60 downs a game against spread offenses.

chapman was a stud in the SEC with a torn ACL

poe was a nobody in the beer league


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