While I agree the whole "Choc PENI" crap is garbage, I am a fan of Geno's and I like watching him progress in the NFL, just like I do any other college football players that I take interest in. The other player threads on this forum simply supply me with good discussions and great .gifs by Clay to keep up on watching these players develop, because I don't have the time to go sign up for Jets Planet, Lions Planet, etc.

Also, you sound like a guy who has all Chiefs players on his Fantasy team lineup. =P

Keep in mind the thread title is not "The Geno Smith Discussion Thread".

Its a debate over Alex vs Geno. Our QB vs Theirs.

So yea people who support Alex are going to comment on Geno, and vice versa.

I actually have 0. And my team is sucking ass. All my RB and WR are hurt.

I'm not a homer. I find it endlessly funny that if you don't hate Alex Smith and love Geno you are considered a homer.


God 3-0 sucks.

The sad part is that we have a thread comparing a rookie to an 8-year veteran, and that the two players have a lot more in common than most are willing to admit.

I have Chiefs team D, DJ, Berry, and Poe (due to bye week) and I'm 3-0...:evil:

Or suck the balls of a rookie QB that has nothing to do with the Chiefs.

Bitches, scorned.

Discussion is not the same as nuthugging.

This is Geno nuthugging.

Where is the Tannehill thread?

I'm gonna start a Glennon thread...

This thread is nothing more than Clay attention-whoring with a handful of his minions parroting him.

It IS entertaining.

There is a thread for both of these players. Feel free to bump if you want to discuss them instead of whining in this thread like a little bitch.

But my guess is you will stick around in here because it feeds into your drama needs.

I'd rather whine like a bitch than obsess over another team's QB.

Do you enjoy riding Clay's coattails?

Drama?

Hardly. This kind of mancrush you have is quite funny?

worst completion % in league

1. Josh Freeman
2. Geno Smith

That will happen when everything isn't a checkdown.

He has almost identical stats to Andrew Luck after 3 games.

Including completion percentage.

Check. (no pun intended)

Mate.

No he doesn't, you posted Lucks stats the other day, Luck had 2 more touchdowns and 2 less interceptions, that's a big difference for a 3 game sample size. Luck had thrown more tds than picks (5 tds to 4 interceptions) while Geno has thrown double the amount of interceptions as he has to touchdowns (3 tds to 6 interceptions). How are those stats nearly identical?

LMAO

Geno nuthuggers

Peyton Mannings first 3 games:

0-3
54% comp (62-114)
683 yards
2touchdowns
8interceptions

Geno Smiths first 3 games:

2-1
54% completion
801 yards passing
78 yards rushing
4 touchdowns
6 interceptions

Andrew Lucks first 3 games:

1-2
54% completion
848 yards passing
5td
4picks
80 yards rushing

LMAO, yea Geno is going to be equal to Manning or Luck in his career.


Further proof stats are a bad measure of QB play.

This is getting rich.

I'm still not quite sure Geno is going to end up being a true franchise QB. I wouldn't feel any better with Geno at QB as I do with Alex right now. I don't expect Geno to ever be a top 5 QB. After all, that is the goal for the Alex Smith haters, right? Can't win without a top 5 QB? He played a really, really, really good game against NYJ (for a rookie) where he let his receivers make plays by throwing excellent passes...but that doesn't mean he's making Aaron Rodgers' esque reads. He definitely should have been the 1st QB off the board...and I think EJ has done really well, too.

Either way...meh. I'm just happy the Chiefs have a team that is set up really, really, really well for the playoffs. This team is the very definition of a team that wins when it gets cold.

That being said...we better pray for it to be -20 again in Denver because that team just looks like it's going to be impossible to stop unless the weather gives the rest of the AFC an assist.

Stats are for losers!

(Except when they help push your agenda)

Alex Smiths first 3 starts:

0-3
52% comp
351 yards passing
0tds
8ints

ROFL

Alex didn't even throw a touchdown pass his rookie year until the very last game of the year.

Maybe if people weren't writing off a rookie QB three games into his career, simply because he's thrown more INT's than TD's - you wouldn't see these comparisons.

But hey, he's 2-1 - and according to CP, that's all that matters.

I guess I am just not confident that a team that can't run the football is built to win in the cold.

Eh, I have been using stats today to support my beliefs as well but really all I care about is the ability to win games which I think Alex has.

That is something I have stated since day one. The only stat that matters is wins.

Sure Geno is 2-1, he should be 1-2 barring a ridiculous penalty and in the end IMO he wont have a better career than Alex and that is what the premise of this whole debate was supposed to be.

You have no clue how Genos career will unfold.

If the only stat that matters is wins, the rest of that means nothing.

That's like stating KC won the game against Clevland in 2002 because of a total team effort.

You are correct, lets see how many games he wins. He can have the freebie.

And for the record he has been better than I expected especially given the team he is on.

I still think shit goes downhill very quickly.

That is my opinion.

Hey maybe I will be wrong about Geno just like you will be about Alex. :harumph:

In the next 2-3 years, Geno does. not. have a better chance of taking his team or this team to the playoffs and making some hay... than Smythe.

That's all I need to know to not. give. a. ****. about Geno.

I want to win NOW, and develop our future star along the way... the two are NOT mutually exclusive and NEVER were.

For those who want to continue to bemoan our not taking him, please be my guest, i'm not standing in your way or begrudging you your choice... but in the end, its pointless and you're all just pounding your heads into a brick wall.

And while you're doing that, you might be missing out on something pretty cool that's already going on in KC.

On my honor, this is the last time i'll ever post about Geno, so sick of it I could puke... for the rest, please carry on, no harm no foul.

I don't think OTWP's measuring stick for Alex will be his regular season record.

I have an opinion on it. Its just like you have no clue how Alex's career in KC will end up but you have an opinion on it.

I laugh when people compare the 2013 NFL to even the 2005 NFL or more laughably, the 1998 NFL (with Peyton Manning).

The league is so swayed towards passing now rookies come in all of the time and put up huge, huge numbers. Different league now. Passing league through and through.

You cannot compare NFL QBs like Peyton Manning's rookie seasons to guys like Andrew Luck. It's ridiculous, and doesn't even come close to telling any sort of story. Same with Alex Smith.

Who said it would?

I love all the fatalist here.

Alex has a 1-1 playoff record.

Again, to show how ridiculously dense our fanbase is.

Say anything negative about Alex Smith, get "3-0" as a response.

Mention that Geno Smith is 2-1, and get a laundry list of reasons why he shouldn't be.

Mention that the reason why AS is 3-0 is his defense, get laundry list of excuses why the offense hasn't "gelled" yet.

Pretty comical, I must say.

Geno could be total crap until his seventh year and be on pace with Alex.

Whats comical is you don't see the difference between a ridiculous personal foul call handing a game to the Jets and how KC has won all 3 games without anything being handed to them.


Come on man admit Geno was gifted a win. You know its true. Acting any different is disingenuous.

Key point in bold.

People are impatient and want to "win now." Would have been interesting to win now, and potentially be prepared for the future

Geno is winning now with jack and shit around him. Who knows how much better he'd look with Charles, Bowe, etc.

I personally think we'd still be 3-0 with Geno.

But God forbid I speak highly of a kid we didn't take. I should be writing him off after three games.

Nope. He gets three weeks.

Ok that is so relevant to Alex Smith being our QB right now and how he has done the last 31 starts of his career. .

No QB has ever started their career slow and had success. Never happened, never will.

Sanchez had 5 years. Started out decent and then boom.

If you want to ignore the plays he made to even make the PF call matter, feel free.

If you also want to ignore punt returners fumbling, QB's throwing ill-advised passes right to us, opponents dropping pick sixes, feel free as well.

Goes both ways, but last I checked you said all that matters is wins.

I never said he should be written off, I have said I would rather have the guy we have, right now and in the near future.

What does Sanchez have to do with it?

Insert Herm Edwards quote here - "____________________"

Actually, funny you mention Sanchez.

Here's a guy that gets carried by his defense, goes 4-2 in the playoffs with a 9:1 TD to INT ratio his first two years in the league - and he's was crucified the entire time.

When Alex Smith wins the same way, he's ****ing glorified.

CP in a nutshell.

Hey, you made the comment, can't blame me for calling you on it.

Another Chiefs Planet QB hero as a rookie and for several years after. Everyone knew where his career was going and how much failure was involved not drafting him. He won playoff games, he is franchise.

Wins are all that matters as long as it involves playoffs.

Geno has beat Buffalo and was gifted a game against Tampa Bay. Let's try and be realistic lol. He's been good for a rookie...most of him impressive throws (and they were impressive) were one read passes. He's been good for a rookie.

And yet you chose to dicard everything Geno has done thus far to win 2/3 to start his career with one of the worst rosters in football.

Since you guys like bringing up fantasy scenarios to take Geno down, if his receivers catch half the drops from the NE game, Geno is sitting at 3-0.

Receivers dropped 2 touchdowns in that game and he lost by 3.

Ha.

And Tom Brady had receivers that caught everything. Oh wait. Lol.

You're wasting your time.

This place refuses to acknowledge promising young players from other teams. They get no benefit of the doubt, while our own get all the benefit of the doubt.

There's no way to tell for sure, but I have a hard time believing that this team would be any worse with Geno in the present day or near future, based on our weapons, the defense and what he's shown in 3 games surrounded by hot garbage.

Guess that makes me a bad fan.

Apparently you aren't reading my posts.

:facepalm:

You just don't get it and probably never will.

I for one, have given the kid who shall not be named plenty of praise, he's looked very, very good on some of those throws... but I don't think that's what most "doubters" problem is.

Its the constant carping about what we DONT have, as opposed to what we DO have that rubs some people wrong.

Swore 15 minutes ago i'd stay out of this, but you in particular have me wondering just one thing... is there any, single one thing about this team you're happy about besides the defense?

3-0! isn't some panacea, there ARE holes in our game right now, Bowe not getting enough looks is at the top of my personal list, then throw in our invisible tight ends... but my question remains, is there anything at all you're pleased with right now?

For every person slobbering over the good plays there is a guy slobbering over his bad plays
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Bull ****ing shit.

The only reason this thread exists is because the Chiefs passed on Geno. Where is the EJ love? He doesn't deserve a thread?

This fanbase is so dense... BOO ****ING HOO

Move on, already.

This isn't a discussion about a young QB.

It's more like pining.

Most of us don't give that much of a shit.

I'm going to call bullshit here. Go to a game thread. Then see for yourself. You will find out you are way wrong
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This is nothing more than this years version of

Draft a rookie quarterback or trade for a vet?

GTFO out of the thread if you don't like it.

There's no thread about EJ because...he's inferior. Looked like GARBAGE against the Mighty Choco Thunder.

It is what it is, man.

You've lost a love before it could blossom.

This is funny.

Asking me if there's anything I'm happy with OTHER than the defense, while mentioning some of the problems on offense I would have mentioned.

Right now, the defense is carrying the team.

Offensively, the playcalling has been terrible. We're not even trying to establish the run before the 4th quarter. When we do run early, it's out of the shotgun/pistol. We expect people to bite on play action when we haven't made any attempt to establish the run.

We have a QB that refuses to throw to someone even remotely covered. For all the shit Cassel got around here - and much of it from me, deservedly - he was willing to get Bowe the ball. That HAS to change.

So, if you're honestly going to ask what I'm happy with other than the defense, I guess the answer is that we're 3-0, and that ST and the kicking game has been solid.

Anyone care to guess what the average starting field position is for KC?

How about for the Jets?

Your 77th post in this thread.

ROFL

I see the issues on offense.

This team also only won 2 games last year.

New staff. New players. New system. Yet, they are 3-0.

That is very impressive. After the garbage we've seen the past few years it's nice to watch a competitive team.

I've mentioned my interest in this thread.

Lazy, much?

Your posts are always some bullshit about other people being "obsessed".

You're capable of laughter?

Who knew?

You're posts read like someone who's depressed. Constantly.

I find the obsession of Geno amusing.

Well, mostly Clay's.

Its true, Axl seems to prefer darters who can get a quick separation, I see it too, its something he definitely needs to work on.

But at the same time, Michael Crabtree had over 1100 yards in 2012, he's much the same kind of player as Bowe, a big man who doesn't need to be wide open to catch it, yet Axl was responsible for the majority of those yards since he played into week 10.

So it isn't that Smith WONT throw to a guy like Bowe, its that he doesn't have the same comfort level throwing to that kind of receiver at this point... it will come in time, Smiff needs to know the playbook and players back and forth to be truly comfortable according to many sources, he's a technician... not a mad bomber.

So there it is, while its no guarantee of playoffs or playoff success, 3-0 is a good harbinger, it says that however un-pretty its been so far, it HAS been efficient and it HAS led to the 3-0 that you claim to be happy about... so even though its a work in progress, its a winning work in progress, and theres nothing wrong with that.

But whatever you do, don't think that our defense and special teams exist in a vacuum, if Axl weren't doing whats needed to win, we wouldn't be winning, period.

Just give it time, that's all most people are asking...

I dont give a **** I'm not a Jets fan.

What's amusing is the people who immediately declared him a bust after the Patriots game.

And now you don't like a taste of your own medicine after he went off like a BEAST.

When was this?

Surely you are joking. The Pats/Jets gameday thread was basically true fans yukking it up.

Guess what the average starting field position is for Chiefs scoring drives this year.

Go ahead, guess.

You need to look at Crab's stats again.

1) he only had 1100 receiving yards in the regular season.

2) A little over half of those yards (615) were gained in the post-Alex Smith season, with Kaepernick throwing him the ball.