Pat in press conference on the throw to hardman.

“That was just a really shitty throw”. No time for fox 4 to bleep it.

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I suspect we won't hear anything until tomorrow.

He's in the hospital for observation and he's stable. You can't really learn anything else without some time.

LMAO Yeah, dude, you were having one of those nights for a while.

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They got him a jacket and some chunky soup.

**** that was horrible to watch.

Maybe doesn’t trust Hardman to catch the ball. He was definitely looking at him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> offense has adjusted to the soft 2 high schemes. They have the answers now. Look out.</p>&mdash; Louis Riddick (@LRiddickESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LRiddickESPN/status/1471700486550085633?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I am to hyped and happy to bitch but tomorrow I am bumping that CEH is a jag thread.

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I would have thought Nnadi and Reed would be a formidable run stopping unit but they got gashed a few times. I think we felt the loss of Gay quite a bit in the run game, which doesn’t look good for Hitchens.

Patrick on his duff to Mecole: "It was just a shitty throw." LMAO

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Okay. Had to step away for a bit so didn't catch that. BTW, what the **** was Buck on about talking about him shivering because he was cold? Bit surprised he's not catching a lot more shot for that "gem".

It's a real concern. The 1 yard ones against garbage fronts will always put pressure on Patrick.

Patrick being Patrick has a higher probability than anyone to overcome it - but to not even have the ground game as an option is really disappointing with our Golden God of a QB.

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The NFL put up the last few minutes of regulation and overtime up on YouTube.

Uhhh **** yeah I'm watching that shit again. RIGHT NOW!

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andy Reid on his reaction to Travis Kelce&#39;s walkoff touchdown: &quot;If I could jump, I’d jump.&quot;</p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1471709458627653632?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Here's the problem, though - they ALWAYS look like they have the answers for 15 plays. Then they go dark for 5-6 drives.

Every time I think "oh yeah, now you're all really ****ed..." it just falls apart on them.

I really don't get it.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When will they learn? <a href="https://t.co/MaYXt8WOYf">pic.twitter.com/MaYXt8WOYf</a></p>&mdash; ��L’Jarius Sneed DPOY�� (@SneedPick6) <a href="https://twitter.com/SneedPick6/status/1471703721562329089?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That was straight up one of the scarier plays I’ve seen. He hit the back of his head and then postured. That was preserved motor reflex. And every neurosurgeon watching that game had to hold their breath.

I hope he’s okay.

And then Mahomes became “Mahomes Magic” ;)

CEH couldn’t break a tackle or make a defender miss if he was carried by a caravan of Willie Roaf, John Alt, Anthony Munoz, Mike Webster, Orlando Pace, Larry Allen and Will Shields.

Clyde wasn't good tonight - but Williams was a BIG pile of shit.

Surprised that everyone's killing CEH for a mediocre night without acknowledging that Williams was goddamn terrible.

It was beyond scary. It looked like he was having a sustain seizure. It didn't look that bad at first but clearly was. Hope he is okay.

Travis Kelce scored on this play:

https://i.postimg.cc/yxvscxJj/sfdsd.jpg

They both ****ing sucked. Can Gore be that much worse at this point?

He does exactly that all the time. Tonight the OL was getting its shit pushed in. Hard to get a running game going when your OL is getting pushed back to where the handoff is taking place.

The Chiefs best runners tonight were their QB and fullback.

Neither one is good enough to be used how they are trying to use them as runners.

As somebody that was playing against a CEH and Williams stack in a big money fantasy league, I thought they were great! :D

They're both terrible. Sometimes you just have to hit the hole and keep those legs moving. Too many times they tippy toe around and get tackled short when they only needed to power forward for 1.

It's insane we don't have one guy we can count on to grind out 3-4 yard runs when we need to. What's unsaid is that we absolutely needed Damien Williams to do just that to beat the Titans in the AFCCG.

It doesn't feel like we're asking a lot here, yet...

We really are an enigma on offense this year. As stated numerous times, we're a completely different team after the first drive. It's so strange to watch.

And I feel like the only time we run the ball is on a down and distance that doesn't make sense or interrupts whatever passing momentum we have. The whole "who's calling the plays" debate might or might not be a bunch of bullshit. I do wonder what our offense would look like if we let Pat call all the plays ROFL Think we'd ever run the ball?!

Either way...what a freaking win. Will be nice to have the extra days to rest and get some of these Covid situations worked out.

Stud muffin.

We aren't an enigma.

Most of the problems are caused by Patrick missing a throw - he did, 2-3 times tonight, on 3rd or 4th down.

Or, drops, or turnovers.

Execution.

This game just highlights our need for another receiver even more. Pringle is okay, Hardman has fizzled hard and Robinson is terrible.

Offense will open up so much with another legit weapon

They were gassed early in the 4th, i think. Sand Diego ran the ball about 40 times by then. And they sent a lot of double teams at them on those runs.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As called on Chargers radio: <a href="https://t.co/VAsGFsW2UZ">pic.twitter.com/VAsGFsW2UZ</a></p>&mdash; Timothy Burke (@bubbaprog) <a href="https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1471701459209179144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I mean the line was AWFUL tonight. Are we all on the same page there, at least? I'm not sure how anyone has any success with the line working like it did this evening.

I was just really frustrated by Williams on a couple of short-yardage plays and then Reid stubbornly giving him the ball on 1st down a couple of times. He had the goal-line run where he stuttered at the line for no reason and then when he gets to the line from a yard out and our 'power back' got stood straight up 1v1.

Sometimes he’s a little much, but I love Mitch Holthus.

I don't know where/how to find it, but I'd be really curious what his yards above expected where tonight.

I just don't feel like CEH left many yards on the field tonight. I mean he damn sure didn't steal any either, but the line was getting mauled at the point of contact.

He nailed that call.

He's hit or miss these days, but top shelf Holthus is still elite as they come.

Thuney and Creed have been money all season. Tonight they struggled

Say his name, mother****ers.

Michael.

Burton.

Which confuses me about our line more than anything. Like what is the disconnect here between our new line and getting consistent yardage in the trenches? Is that where we're seeing their newness or youth? It's just one of the more bewildering parts of the year.

The Chargers do have a good defensive line too.

We all expect that from Williams, well at least I do. CEH is a 1st rounder and should be a lot better runner. He is a very good receiver so just do that and let Gore carry the ball.

Not a lot of people clocked it, but reminds me of Larry Miller.

Don't know who knows, but he was out with his wife at lunch and slipped and fell backwards on a bit of moisture on the stoop of the restaurant.

Same whiplash strike to the base of the back of the skull.

Was out for a good bit [EDIT - 10day coma], and had a decent bit of rehab to get back to health.

https://www.braintrauma.org/news/art...t-larry-miller

Are you also going to give any leeway for Patrick's two bad quarters (not three, as you've still been saying for some reason) with our line tonight or nah?

Patrick had bad throws, man, no one's denying that, but I'm a bit confused with your continued negativity about his overall game here.

Look - I want to stand up for Tillery for obvious reasons, but he's been ass this year. Linval Joseph is WAY past his prime and what the hell is a Christian Covington? Justin Jones? Bosa's excellent but Nwosu isn't. He's...there. Fackrell - same story.

Line their DL up against ours and I'd take ours, talent for talent, 100 times out of 100.

I mean I'm not convinced that DL is worth a shit. Certainly not one of the better units we've played this year.

Continued negativity? You ****ing stupid? I responded to a guy who quoted someone saying that Mahomes went from bad to god. Mahomes not going through progressions, pump faking into a fumble, jump passing an interception, and bouncing a WR open by 15 yards had anything to do with the ****ing line.

Shut the **** up.

65% Kelce; 35% NFL "Tackling"

Because CEH was a first round pick and Williams was an UDFA. It’s completely different expectations.

Yeah; CEH is..... very disappointing. I don't have metrics or any sort of numbers or specific examples; but as a viewer of Chiefs games, CEH seems to consistently guess wrong when he has a 2 way go in terms of which hole to hit; and he doesn't seem to have yards after contact; and I don't necessarily think he's a good blocker sans a decent chip on his way out to a route.

In general; he appears to be a back who has less than average vision, little power, and the inability to fight off contact for extra yards. Not something you want to see when you've given up 1st round (granted...essentially 2nd round...but the point still remains) capital.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see anything that CEH does that late rounders or even undrafted FA can't. / haven't done. Perhaps I'm undervaluing his receiving ability, but.... even that, I just don't see it. Even if he catches passes consistently, the issue of being Brough down with little contact is still an issue.

Hill was about to break open on that TD to Kelce.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The dots even make the Kelce TD fun <a href="https://t.co/lDGVenDMDA">pic.twitter.com/lDGVenDMDA</a></p>&mdash; Cody Tapp (@codybtapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/codybtapp/status/1471716323440971776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lord, 25 - where you going? You're driving on the RB out of the backfield when you appear to be in a Man Cover 1? Against THIS team???

Yikes.

Reacting to CEH. Our 3rd and 4th WRs come out of the backfield.

I was being nice by saying continued negativity with some of your takes this year.

Take a breath and enjoy one of the best regular season wins we've had in a while.

I have had terrible takes about Andy, Tyreek, and hell, wanting to run the ball more at times this season. Quote them all up -- I don't care. I was stupid and I was wrong. The difference is you've been passive aggressive about Patrick for this entire season and it makes your posts miserable to read. Shape up, dude.

Pulling quotes from old threads not related to this? Get a life bro.

Complaining about stuff that was said when Mahomes was in the worst 5-6 game stretch of his career and the punter I claimed was MVP was named Special Teams Player of the Month.

Seriously, go **** yourself.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes in final 10 minutes: 10-for-13, 197 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT</p>&mdash; Reuben Frank (@RoobNBCS) <a href="https://twitter.com/RoobNBCS/status/1471702739340206081?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Nah. I'm not going to. You're one of my favorite posters, dude. But you've been on Mahomes a lot this year, and at times undeservedly. Even tonight, you buffered all of your praise after the game by saying he had 3 bad quarters (he didn't) and with that weird . post you had after the game. It wasn't hard to find your posts, my dude. We both spend a lot of time here, as evidenced by our post counts. But your digs at Mahomes this year have crossed a lot of threads - even after victories like this one - and I don't really understand it, given your post history before this season.

It's all I'm pointing out, it wasn't my intention saying that you've had "continued negativity" to be upsetting for you, dude.

Anywho, to try to get this thread back on track, here's some of my favorite tweets I saw from tonight.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes in final 10 minutes: 10-for-13, 197 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT</p>&mdash; Reuben Frank (@RoobNBCS) <a href="https://twitter.com/RoobNBCS/status/1471702739340206081?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Travis Kelce had 104 yards AFTER the catch tonight<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KCvsLAC?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KCvsLAC</a></p>&mdash; Steve Palazzolo (@PFF_Steve) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Steve/status/1471703677316608001?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here’s the absolutely insane thing about Patrick Mahomes:<br><br>He had 410 yards, 3 TDs, a 106 rating. <br><br>Had TWO, 75-yard 4th quarter game tying drives. And then a 75 yard game winning drive in OT. <br><br>And that wasn’t even close to a Top 15 all time Mahomes game.</p>&mdash; nick wright (@getnickwright) <a href="https://twitter.com/getnickwright/status/1471702776052785153?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patrick Mahomes is 12-0 in road divisional games during his NFL career <a href="https://t.co/KeyiDzhfcv">pic.twitter.com/KeyiDzhfcv</a></p>&mdash; Pro Sports Outlook (@PSO_Sports) <a href="https://twitter.com/PSO_Sports/status/1471728303962836993?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Best record in divisional games since merger<br><br>Patrick Mahomes 19-3 (.864)<br>Tom Brady 92-24 (.793)<br>David Woodley 19-5-1 (.792)<br>Dak Prescott 22-6 (.786)<br><br>*min 20 starts <a href="https://t.co/mOL2P8Kcgs">pic.twitter.com/mOL2P8Kcgs</a></p>&mdash; NFL on CBS �� (@NFLonCBS) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLonCBS/status/1470851650759835649?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 14, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

CEH is a RB that tries to go through the Hole the play was designed for... even if that hole doesn't exist. There could be a giant pile of dudes, and CEH gets pulled right into it by their tractor beam.

Gore has shown us (in his small amount of opportunities) that he can witness a giant pile of asses, and bounce it to the outside.

Obviously Gore isn't going to get many reps this season, but hopefully by next season we see more of him, with CEH getting more catches out of the backfield. I do like CEH catching passes... I just haven't seen but a few plays of him having good vision.

Ya, my digs on Mahomes have been totally uncalled for. The quotes you went back to find came from the Packers game when he completed 54% of his passes for 4.5 yards on average and we squeeked out a win against a Rodgerless Packers squad. His weekly QBR leading up to and including that game was 42.3, 51.3, 6.8, 19.4, and 45.3.

Nothing about it was uncalled for. He has for a big chunk of this season been playing quite poorly. Sorry you are too scared to admit that.

And none of those comments take away from my enjoyment in a win. It's calling a spade a spade. So like I said, you can go **** yourself on your high horse.

Mahomes has been forced to completely change up his style of play, and on top of that, NOT getting help from his receivers the majority of the season.
Obviously he has had a learning curve (The Packers game), but as you can see with time it's getting better, and that is good.

C'mon, man. This ain't it. If any poster on this forum, after watching Patrick since 2017, ever seriously implies that Chad Henne would be a better option for our offense than Patrick Mahomes, that's a different thing than calling a spade a spade - as is exaggerating his poor play tonight - as you did even after the game. It doesn't line up with your post history - and you know what? I'm calling a spade a spade here.

And no, not going to do that. Legitimately did not mean to upset you like this tonight, my dude.

Just to be clear here, you think the Chiefs are "pussies?"

I know you arent saying I seriously implied Chad Henne would be a better option when I ****ing quoted you with that comment and simply said that the gameplan would have been completely different in the Packers game had Henne been in the game.

You are such a dumbass.

That's not true at all.

Yeah - it's why I remembered it. You were downplaying one of the greatest plays Mahomes made this season by implying that if Henne were QB would have already had the game won late in the game and wouldn't have needed Mahomes superhuman throw to seal it. Do I have that right? You downplayed Mahomes after the win, and are continuing to do it here.

Just gonna keep calling a spade a spade here, my dude. Call me a dumb*** all you want to.

... and it really wasn't even a bad game by Pat.

Obviously the 4th to Hardman was bad... and 1-2 passes that were short. (Common for every QB in the NFL EVER).

But some plays were just shitty 1-read designs that were busted up by the defense. The INT was a designed play with an AWESOME play by the Bolts DE. Sometimes you have to give the Defense credit.

Like the Chiefs defense tonight. They deserve some ****ing credit... Herbert doesn't deserve all the blame because he played well enough to win also. He was dragged down by stupid coaching decisions, a horrific fumble at the goal line, and many dropped passes. Stats don't tell the whole story.

I wasnt implying anything on how the game would have played out you clueless ****.

LMAO

It was also a shitty play call. So sick of shotgun on 4th and inches.

Does Andy realize you can have a fullback and a halfback on the field at the same time? And you can even have the fullback run ahead of the halfback as a blocker. Imagine!

How is a play call shitty when the receiver is wide the **** open for a TD and even Townsend has shown he can make that throw?

LMAO

You seem mad.