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Mecca 02-23-2009 06:22 PM

What's the argument?

The argument is you need both sides of the ball.

You can build a defense mostly out of the 1st round but this idea you can just pull a QB out of your ass in the 6th round is ludicrous.

That's why I asked the question and I'll ask it again, how many 1st rounders do the Steelers have on offense and how many do they have on defense and who is the highest drafted player on their roster?

Rigodan 02-23-2009 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 5519747)
Without a defense, they lose too. You're making a poor argument.

You need both!!!! Damn't get this through your head!!!! :cuss:

Mecca 02-23-2009 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by soundmind (Post 5519755)
Yeah, plus that Defense had nothing to do with getting them TO the Super Bowl - it was all Ben?

How many times did Roethlisberger lead a 4th quarter winning drive for them?

The point is you can't sit here and say the defense is more important than Roethlisberger is.

SAUTO 02-23-2009 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5519761)
How many times did Roethlisberger lead a 4th quarter winning drive for them?

The point is you can't sit here and say the defense is more important than Roethlisberger is.

for that team they probably are actually equal

Rigodan 02-23-2009 06:26 PM

You need a great defense and franchise qb. Franchise qbs are much harder to come by so if we pass up a chance to take one we run the risk of being the Minnesota Vikings. No playoff success.

Mecca 02-23-2009 06:26 PM

I'm still waiting for someone to answer my question.

Just Passin' By 02-23-2009 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rigodan (Post 5519760)
You need both!!!! Damn't get this through your head!!!! :cuss:

Ummm.... that's what I've said.

CrazyHorse 02-23-2009 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rigodan (Post 5519760)
You need both!!!! Damn't get this through your head!!!! :cuss:

Agreed.

If Stafford is there draft him. If not Curry.

SAUTO 02-23-2009 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5519777)
I'm still waiting for someone to answer my question.

what 6 times 7 but to be fair they wouldnt have been in many of those games if not for the d keeping them in it thats why i said BEN=defense on THAT team(sorry thought the question you were referencing was how many 4th qtr comebacks)

Just Passin' By 02-23-2009 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5519777)
I'm still waiting for someone to answer my question.

Why? It's a stupid question. Brady was a 6th round pick, so do we somehow ignore him being a franchise quarterback for the Patriots? Your argument is bad because you're going overboard trying to make your point.

Mecca 02-23-2009 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 5519786)
Why? It's a stupid question. Brady was a 6th round pick, so do we somehow ignore him being a franchise quarterback for the Patriots? Your argument is bad because you're going overboard trying to make your point.

Ah yes the Brady defense, when someone doesn't have another argument that is what they go to.

Well Tom Brady!

CrazyHorse 02-23-2009 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5519777)
I'm still waiting for someone to answer my question.


I dont think anyone want to do the legwork for such a weak arguement. The answer wont mean that Sanchez is the answer.

I think most people know that the !# defense is the reason the Steelers won the SB.

A better question might be, how many middle of the road offenses have won a SB with no defense. Beecause that's where the Steelers are. Middle of the road on O.

Just Passin' By 02-23-2009 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5519792)
Ah yes the Brady defense, when someone doesn't have another argument that is what they go to.

Well Tom Brady!

It's not a defense. It's pointing out the obvious. The question of how many Steelers first round picks are on offense, defense or special teams is irrelevant.

CrazyHorse 02-23-2009 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 5519797)
It's not a defense. It's pointing out the obvious. The question of how many Steelers first round picks are on offense, defense or special teams is irrelevant.

Not to mention the best QB on the field was Warner. Where was he drafted?

SAUTO 02-23-2009 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5519792)
Ah yes the Brady defense, when someone doesn't have another argument that is what they go to.

Well Tom Brady!

it's overused sure, but it's a fact, some just dismiss it like its not true


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