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Chiefs Pantalones 09-01-2013 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9932468)
Berry is a fantastic player. It's also unfair to judge him on last year after playing in a passive defense where he didn't trust his knee most of the year.

This.

DeezNutz 09-01-2013 09:08 PM

Berry is going to have to create turnovers and be an absolute menace in the secondary for me to consider him a great player at #5 overall. He's been fine thus far, but underwhelming based on what so many expected him to be.

Feel like we're talking about Dorsey all over again.

ILChief 09-01-2013 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9932468)
Berry is a fantastic player. It's also unfair to judge him on last year after playing in a passive defense where he didn't trust his knee most of the year.

Also Romeo inexplicably had him covering tight ends all the time, which is a horrible matchup

chiefzilla1501 09-01-2013 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9932234)
With the first overall pick in the 2014 NFL draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select...

Trevor Gebhart - gunner, North Dakota State.

JFC. Because that's what I'm saying. That we should start drafting gunners in the first round.

Bambi 09-01-2013 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9931785)

I love the guy in the upper right hand corner who jumps twice...

Bambi 09-01-2013 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9932468)
Berry is a fantastic player. It's also unfair to judge him on last year after playing in a passive defense where he didn't trust his knee most of the year.

OK, I guess we'll wait another year.

Bambi 09-01-2013 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9932488)
Berry is going to have to create turnovers and be an absolute menace in the secondary for me to consider him a great player at #5 overall. He's been fine thus far, but underwhelming based on what so many expected him to be.

Feel like we're talking about Dorsey all over again.

This

Mother****erJones 09-01-2013 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9932468)
Berry is a fantastic player. It's also unfair to judge him on last year after playing in a passive defense where he didn't trust his knee most of the year.

Any chance we go for Jonathan Dwyer

Bambi 09-01-2013 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9932490)
Also Romeo inexplicably had him covering tight ends all the time, which is a horrible matchup

A safety picked at #5 should be able to at least somewhat decent coverage of an NFL tight end. Berry's coverage is a joke.

Give me a break and stop making excuses. Could have had the guy in the 20's.

Chiefshrink 09-01-2013 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9932488)
Berry is going to have to create turnovers and be an absolute menace in the secondary for me to consider him a great player at #5 overall. He's been fine thus far, but underwhelming based on what so many expected him to be.

THIS !! Troy Palamalu without the injuries type play.:clap:

O.city 09-01-2013 09:13 PM

Berry had a great rookie year, great playoff game then tore his acl. I do t think he was 100% til later last year.

That said, he does need to make more plays and I think he's going to be asked to this year

chiefzilla1501 09-01-2013 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 9932503)
A safety picked at #5 should be able to at least somewhat decent coverage of an NFL tight end. Berry's coverage is a joke.

Give me a break and stop making excuses. Could have had the guy in the 20's.

His coverage of tight ends isn't a joke. It's not the best part of his game, but he does it well enough. I wouldn't count anything anybody did last year. He freelanced way too much and I don't see that happening under Sutton.

I think taking Berry at #5 was incredibly conservative. But he'll be more valuable this year now that he's used more as a blitzer, as a center fielder, as a linebacker, in the box... he'll truly be a weapon, and Rex Ryan defenses have a tendency to do some really creative things with safeties like Berry.

Dante84 09-01-2013 09:21 PM

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O.city 09-01-2013 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9932502)
Any chance we go for Jonathan Dwyer

Why?

He's be the 4th best back on our team

Mother****erJones 09-01-2013 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9932534)
Why?

He's be the 4th best back on our team


I'd have him over gray


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