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FloridaMan88 01-05-2023 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16713624)
What is the standard now for how disturbing a sight needs to be to get a “no contest”? Does an Alex Smith type injury get you a no contest? A Ryan Shazier or a Dennis Byrd type injury?

That’s the issue… it becomes a slippery slope.

Dartgod 01-05-2023 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 16713494)
How do you figure? All that has to happen is for the Chiefs to lose and them both to win and they will play each other in the AFCCG.

Again, I'm behind so may have been addressed. The divisional round would be our first playoff game and will be played the same weekend as the Bills/Bengals, assuming that they both win their WC games.

digger 01-05-2023 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16713630)
So there's at least one owner probably saying no.

I don't think we will know... meaning they won't tell us the vote count... Just pass or not...

Chitownchiefsfan 01-05-2023 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16713624)
What is the standard now for how disturbing a sight needs to be to get a “no contest”? Does an Alex Smith type injury get you a no contest? A Ryan Shazier or a Dennis Byrd type injury?

I think it's "is he going to die?"

Alex smith was gruesome but no-one was thinking "did my teammate just die? They didn't have to think during the game is one of my friends still alive? This is an extreme case. Very extreme and some people are acting like we are in danger of this happening everytime someone stubs their toe.

KC_Connection 01-05-2023 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16713629)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In a memo obtained by ESPN’s <a href="https://twitter.com/SethWickersham?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SethWickersham</a>, Bengals executive VP Katie Blackburn urged the competition committee to rule against the change that affects a potential coin flip for the Wild Card. <a href="https://t.co/ikhUZDn6E2">https://t.co/ikhUZDn6E2</a></p>&mdash; Ben Baby (@Ben_Baby) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ben_Baby/status/1611206211424100354?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Bengals executive vice president Katie Blackburn is on the competition committee, which approved the scenarios Thursday. In a memo obtained by ESPN's Seth Wickersham, Blackburn urged the committee members to vote against the scenarios. Her reasoning stemmed from the timing of a rule change away from the standard of winning percentages used in this scenario.

"The proper process for making rule change (sic) is in the off-season," Blackburn wrote. "It is not appropriate to put teams in a position to vote for something that may introduce bias, favor one team over another or impact their own situation when the vote takes place immediately before the playoffs."
Katie is making sense here. The NFL is very much not. This will set a horrible precedent.

Sassy Squatch 01-05-2023 10:04 PM

If Jerry Jones decides to be a **** just because it probably won't pass.

digger 01-05-2023 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 16713634)
Again, I'm behind so may have been addressed. The divisional round would be our first playoff game and will be played the same weekend as the Bills/Bengals, assuming that they both win their WC games.


Try this...

http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machine

MahomesMagic 01-05-2023 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP (Post 16713628)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A brief, three-tweet thought regarding the NFL&#39;s resolution and the Chiefs: <br><br>There was no perfect way to do this: extreme circumstances regarding player safety, time left before the playoffs and the AFC contenders involved. Every team impacted had to give a little.<br><br>(1/3)</p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1611208816116252677?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Well said



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs could not have made out much better in terms of competitive advantage in this plan.<br><br>(3/3)</p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1611208818750373889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Exactly where I was earlier, I just didn't think Cincinnati deserved neutral site if we win Saturday. Now that's resolved, I'm 👍.

dirk digler 01-05-2023 10:05 PM

I was curious who was on the competition committee and after reviewing this I guess I don't feel so bad for Bengals\Ravens unless the vote wasn't unanimous. Would be curious to see who voted for what.

Rich McKay (chairman) – president, Atlanta Falcons
Katie Blackburn – executive vice president, Cincinnati Bengals
Chris Grier – general manager, Miami Dolphins
Stephen Jones – executive vice president, Dallas Cowboys
John Mara – owner, New York Giants
Ozzie Newsome – executive vice president, Baltimore Ravens
Frank Reich – head coach, Indianapolis Colts
Ron Rivera – head coach, Washington Commanders
Mike Tomlin – head coach, Pittsburgh Steelers
Mike Vrabel – head coach, Tennessee Titans

KC_Connection 01-05-2023 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16713639)
If Jerry Jones decides to be a **** just because it probably won't pass.

Do it, Jerry. **** their shit up.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-05-2023 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16713257)
I already said before it's not the worst and nothing that's going to get me worked up, but I still think they got it wrong.

Same here, it's just ridiculous they didn't make them resume on Tuesday or Wednesday with the prognosis of Damar stable and improving.

Hammock Parties 01-05-2023 10:06 PM

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Also, given that the proposed approach represents a deviation from current rules, the owners will be required to approve the revision via a 24-vote supermajority. The NFL has confirmed this.

So, in other words, only nine votes are needed to block it. Tomorrow could be interesting.
https://i.imgur.com/u9jnQuU.gif

stanleychief 01-05-2023 10:06 PM

I'd add one more provision to their proposal. If the Chiefs win out, have to play at a neutral site and lose to the Bills or Bengals, we get an early round compensatory draft pick.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-05-2023 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 16713641)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs could not have made out much better in terms of competitive advantage in this plan.<br><br>(3/3)</p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1611208818750373889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Exactly where I was earlier, I just didn't think Cincinnati deserved neutral site if we win Saturday. Now that's resolved, I'm 👍.

Bengals are pissed though. If they win and the Bills win they have to play in Buffalo even though they controlled their own destiny going into Monday night and most likely would have been happy to resume the game on Tuesday or Wednesday...

TwistedChief 01-05-2023 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16713639)
If Jerry Jones decides to be a **** just because it probably won't pass.

Not sure what he would gain from that. And my suspicion is it's already been cleared by him.

They don't want to have this lingering out there for days because the owners can't agree on it. I think that's just a formality at this stage.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-05-2023 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16713646)

It's like congress, the votes most likely have been counted...

Sassy Squatch 01-05-2023 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16713649)
Not sure what he would gain from that. And my suspicion is it's already been cleared by him.

They don't want to have this lingering out there for days because the owners can't agree on it. I think that's just a formality at this stage.

Because he doesn't like Goodell and hasn't been shy about making that as publicly apparent as possible. Anything that makes him look like an incompent goof serves him quite well.

jettio 01-05-2023 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16713637)
Katie is making sense here. The NFL is very much not. This will set a horrible precedent.

Zac Taylor and Joe Burrow might prefer not to make a big deal about it since Ravens are at Bengals Sunday. Bengals win Sunday no coin flip to decide venue if Ravens v. Bengals is a wild card game.

Hell Bengals could lose to Ravens this Sunday and still have chance to host wild card with a coin toss.

Hammock Parties 01-05-2023 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 16713648)
Bengals are pissed though. If they win and the Bills win they have to play in Buffalo even though they controlled their own destiny going into Monday night and most likely would have been happy to resume the game on Tuesday or Wednesday...

I speak for everyone here when I say:

**** the Bengals

Eleazar 01-05-2023 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 16713648)
Bengals are pissed though. If they win and the Bills win they have to play in Buffalo even though they controlled their own destiny going into Monday night and most likely would have been happy to resume the game on Tuesday or Wednesday...

Yeah, the Bengals got the shaft here more than anyone. It’s more likely to drop them a place in the seeding, not just cost them a home game.

FloridaMan88 01-05-2023 10:09 PM

The bigger benefit is the first round bye which the Chiefs will keep (assuming they win on Saturday).

The NFL better not do Buffalo any scheduling favors on Wild Card weekend.

Shag 01-05-2023 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 16713648)
Bengals are pissed though. If they win and the Bills win they have to play in Buffalo even though they controlled their own destiny going into Monday night and most likely would have been happy to resume the game on Tuesday or Wednesday...

Bengals far and away came out the worst in this.

MahomesMagic 01-05-2023 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 16713648)
Bengals are pissed though. If they win and the Bills win they have to play in Buffalo even though they controlled their own destiny going into Monday night and most likely would have been happy to resume the game on Tuesday or Wednesday...

I can't speak for their fans but it doesn't look so bad. They got a mini-bye this week already and Buffalo is now depleted even further in their secondary.

smithandrew051 01-05-2023 10:11 PM

I wonder if we could get a 2/3 majority of this board to vote for it

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-05-2023 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 16713658)
I can't speak for their fans but it doesn't look so bad. They got a mini-bye this week already and Buffalo is now depleted even further in their secondary.

They pretty much would have had the 2 seed if that game was resumed...

Hammock Parties 01-05-2023 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16713655)
Yeah, the Bengals got the shaft here more than anyone. It’s more likely to drop them a place in the seeding, not just cost them a home game.

We should be thrilled.

The team that knocked us out has the hardest road to get past us again.

wazu 01-05-2023 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16713632)
How many times has a player nearly died on a football field?

We’ve seen broken necks, people hauled away unconscious. It’s always upsetting.

kcpasco 01-05-2023 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 16713625)
Bills aren't making it to the Championship game with no coverage safeties left.

If they do, tip your cap to them.

Surprised they aren’t asking for a bye until the championship game.

Hammock Parties 01-05-2023 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16713659)
I wonder if we could get a 2/3 majority of this board to vote for it

i thought we were an autonomous collective

Frazod 01-05-2023 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Shag (Post 16713657)
Bengals far and away came out the worst in this.

Well, they've got no one to blame but themselves. Never should have agreed to cancelling the game; in that scenario, they should have been awarded a win when the Bills declined to continue. And honestly, it looked like they were well on their way to stomping the Bills' asses.

|Zach| 01-05-2023 10:14 PM

Is there a coalition of 9 teams to block this proposal?

TomBarndtsTwin 01-05-2023 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16713591)
You do understand that changing the rules in the aftermath of last year's situation isn't changing the rules to accomodate the Bills

You DO realize that’s exactly WHY it was done. Because Josh didn’t get to touch the ball and people were ‘upset’.

You do realize that 3 years earlier the same EXACT thing happened to Mahomes and no one outside of KC gave a shit. In fact, KC proposed a rule change so that wouldn’t happen again and you know who voted against it (amongst most others)? That’s right, the Buffalo Bills.

The Bills only want the rules changed when it affects them. They’re a bunch of self serving pussies. Guess it’s why their entitled fanbase fits so well with them. And the NFL plays right along with it (honestly have no idea why).

It’s pathetic.

Eleazar 01-05-2023 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16713661)
We should be thrilled.

The team that knocked us out has the hardest road to get past us again.

I’m just pointing out that the Bengals seemed to mutually agree with the Bills to take their teams off the field and to not press the issue about finishing the game out of respect, and they got screwed for it.

Titty Meat 01-05-2023 10:14 PM

Indy is half way between KC & Buffalo I bet thats where the game would be or LA

|Zach| 01-05-2023 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16713670)
Indy is half way between KC & Buffalo I bet thats where the game would be or LA

Was thinking the same. Indy is also good at taking on big events.

jettio 01-05-2023 10:15 PM

I proposed that Bills be 2 seed and Bengals 3 seed for matchups, but Bengals and Bills in divisional should be at Cincy because of suspended game, and if Bills win divisional, AFC Championship could be played in Buffalo as if Bills won week 17 at Cincy.

I think the proposal is fine, but Bills v. Bengals in divisional should be a neutral site game.

I would not be surprised if part of the rationale was they did not want Bills to play at Cincy so no thoughts of revisiting a scene with recent bad memories.

Eleazar 01-05-2023 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 16713668)
You DO realize that’s exactly WHY it was done. Because Josh didn’t get to touch the ball and people were ‘upset’.

You do realize that 3 years earlier the same EXACT thing happened to Mahomes and no one outside of KC gave a shit. In fact, KC proposed a rule change so that wouldn’t happen again and you know who voted against it (amongst most others)? That’s right, the Buffalo Bills.

The Bills only want the rules changed when it affects them. They’re a bunch of self serving pussies. Guess it’s why their entitled fanbase fits so well with them. And the NFL plays right along with it (honestly have no idea why).

It’s pathetic.

A million games have ended that way, but because Joshy made a sad face on TV, we gotta change the rules.

staylor26 01-05-2023 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 16713668)
You DO realize that’s exactly WHY it was done. Because Josh didn’t get to touch the ball and people were ‘upset’.

You do realize that 3 years earlier the same EXACT thing happened to Mahomes and no one outside of KC gave a shit. In fact, KC proposed a rule change so that wouldn’t happen again and you know who voted against it (amongst most others)? That’s right, the Buffalo Bills.

The Bills only want the rules changed when it affects them. They’re a bunch of self serving pussies. Guess it’s why their entitled fanbase fits so well with them. And the NFL plays right along with it (honestly have no idea why).

It’s pathetic.

All of this.

Of course the rule going forward doesn't necessarily benefit the Bills or anybody else.

The problem is the timing. All the whining the media and everybody else did on behalf of the Bills, and the sudden (and convenient) change of heart about something we've seen play out the same way like the Chiefs/Pats.

Sygerrik 01-05-2023 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by stanleychief (Post 16713647)
I'd add one more provision to their proposal. If the Chiefs win out, have to play at a neutral site and lose to the Bills or Bengals, we get an early round compensatory draft pick.

Super Bowl. Clark has to be a part of this community, and losing that game will cost millions in revenue. If he didn't demand something in return that was at least as valuable as an AFCCG for Kansas City (the city, not the team), I'd not want to be him next time he comes hat in hand looking for a bond issue or public assistance with renovations.

RINGLEADER 01-05-2023 10:18 PM

Why didn’t they just play OT rules for one quarter to determine a winner. They’d play a quarter of football Monday night and all this could have been avoided.

TwistedChief 01-05-2023 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 16713668)
You DO realize that’s exactly WHY it was done. Because Josh didn’t get to touch the ball and people were ‘upset’.

You do realize that 3 years earlier the same EXACT thing happened to Mahomes and no one outside of KC gave a shit. In fact, KC proposed a rule change so that wouldn’t happen again and you know who voted against it (amongst most others)? That’s right, the Buffalo Bills.

The Bills only want the rules changed when it affects them. They’re a bunch of self serving pussies. Guess it’s why their entitled fanbase fits so well with them. And the NFL plays right along with it (honestly have no idea why).

It’s pathetic.

Uhm, I understand all of that.

Apparently though you don’t understand that changing that rule during the AFCCG last year would be accommodating the Bills but changing it in the offseason does not.

Do you realize that?

HC_Chief 01-05-2023 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 16713678)
Why didn’t they just play OT rules for one quarter to determine a winner. They’d play a quarter of football and all this could have been avoided.

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Frazod 01-05-2023 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 16713668)
You DO realize that’s exactly WHY it was done. Because Josh didn’t get to touch the ball and people were ‘upset’.

You do realize that 3 years earlier the same EXACT thing happened to Mahomes and no one outside of KC gave a shit. In fact, KC proposed a rule change so that wouldn’t happen again and you know who voted against it (amongst most others)? That’s right, the Buffalo Bills.

The Bills only want the rules changed when it affects them. They’re a bunch of self serving pussies. Guess it’s why their entitled fanbase fits so well with them. And the NFL plays right along with it (honestly have no idea why).

It’s pathetic.

Yep. They're a bunch of whining ****ing emo toddlers. In the past I didn't like them but at least respected them. That's gone forever.

WilliamTheIrish 01-05-2023 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16713228)
I was told there would be no math.

Sincerely,

ChiefsPlanet

LMAO

It’s like everybody decided become complete petegz’sss (you can’t use winning % when you have unequal games, because fish wear tennis shoes”)

Shag 01-05-2023 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 16713665)
Well, they've got no one to blame but themselves. Never should have agreed to cancelling the game; in that scenario, they should have been awarded a win when the Bills declined to continue. And honestly, it looked like they were well on their way to stomping the Bills' asses.

No team in their spot would have taken that route, I guarantee it. And the league would have never forced a Bills forfeit that night for PR reasons.

They should have (and may have) requested the game be resumed 2-3 days later.

BigRedChief 01-05-2023 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 16713580)
Who died?


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Creed you moron

TwistedChief 01-05-2023 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 16713682)
LMAO

It’s like everybody decided become complete petegz’sss (you can’t use winning % when you have unequal games, because fish wear tennis shoes”)

The closest I can come to comparing it to something is when I was at a gas station in New Orleans and someone randomly came up to me and asked if New Orleans was a bigger city than Maryland.

staylor26 01-05-2023 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16713679)
Uhm, I understand all of that.

Apparently though you don’t understand that changing that rule during the AFCCG last year would be accommodating the Bills but changing it in the offseason does not.

Do you realize that?

I don't think anybody, even the first person you quoted, thinks the rule change benefits the Bills going forward.

The point is the blatant favoritism, which has now become a pattern.

suzzer99 01-05-2023 10:22 PM

Bye week: HUGE
Not having to play Bills AND Bengals in the playoffs: HUGE
AFCCG at a neutral site: kinda sucks but nothing compared to those other two

People need to stop whining. The Bills could have easily come back and won that game. We could be looking at Cincy in the divisional round and at Buffalo in the AFCCG.

kstater 01-05-2023 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16713659)
I wonder if we could get a 2/3 majority of this board to vote for it

2/3 of one specific team that benefits the most if not adapted? No.

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ShowtimeSBMVP 01-05-2023 10:23 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">��So we not following the rules no more��☕️ <a href="https://t.co/AreAM1xAsp">pic.twitter.com/AreAM1xAsp</a></p>&mdash; ⚡️Primetime!!!⚡️ (@Joe_MainMixon) <a href="https://twitter.com/Joe_MainMixon/status/1611212660271374336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Joe Mixon not happy

Pitt Gorilla 01-05-2023 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16713679)
Uhm, I understand all of that.

Apparently though you don’t understand that changing that rule during the AFCCG last year would be accommodating the Bills but changing it in the offseason does not.

Do you realize that?

I wonder what their rationale is on changing their position on the vote?

baitism 01-05-2023 10:23 PM

Not to mention the Bengals were going to drop a 50 burger on the Bills Monday night...

KC_Connection 01-05-2023 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 16713691)
Bye week: HUGE
Not having to play Bills AND Bengals in the playoffs: HUGE
AFCCG at a neutral site: kinda sucks but nothing compared to those other two

People need to stop whining.

I'd rather have all three myself. And we'll have it if Clark can build the 9-vote coalition (and obviously beat the Raiders).

kstater 01-05-2023 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 16713667)
Is there a coalition of 9 teams to block this proposal?

No. At worst you have 3(chiefs, bengals, ravens)

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TwistedChief 01-05-2023 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16713690)
I don't think anybody, even the first person you quoted, thinks the rule change benefits the Bills going forward.

The point is the blatant favoritism, which has now become a pattern.

He said the rule change was to accommodate the Bills.

It doesn’t do that for them more than it does for any other NFL team.

Sassy Squatch 01-05-2023 10:25 PM

If Reid is cool with it I doubt Clark votes against it. We'll see what happens.

KC_Connection 01-05-2023 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP (Post 16713694)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">��So we not following the rules no more��☕️ <a href="https://t.co/AreAM1xAsp">pic.twitter.com/AreAM1xAsp</a></p>&mdash; ⚡️Primetime!!!⚡️ (@Joe_MainMixon) <a href="https://twitter.com/Joe_MainMixon/status/1611212660271374336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Joe Mixon not happy

Not if the rules hurt the Bills, Joe.

suzzer99 01-05-2023 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16713697)
I'd rather have all three myself. And we'll have it if Clark can build the 9-vote coalition (and obviously beat the Raiders).

Would you rather the Bills and Bengals actually play again for us to get a chance at all three, but also risk losing all three?

Because I think we come out a lot better on average w/o them playing again.

|Zach| 01-05-2023 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 16713682)
LMAO

It’s like everybody decided become complete petegz’sss (you can’t use winning % when you have unequal games, because fish wear tennis shoes”)

:)

WilliamTheIrish 01-05-2023 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16713268)
The best is gonna be when we lose to the Raiders and the Bills lose to the Patriots and the Bengals steamroll the Ravens and we're gifted the AFCCG at a neutral site instead of in Cincy.

Haha

Can we get ARROW2 and petegeegzz to calculate these odds?

ArrowHeader 01-05-2023 10:26 PM

Neutral site proposal? What a ****ing joke. Play it in Dallas if that’s the case.

KC_Connection 01-05-2023 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 16713703)
Would you rather the Bills and Bengals actually playing again to get all three, but risk losing all three?

Because I think we come out a lot better on average w/o them playing again.

I'd just rather they actually follow their own rules without changing them a week before the playoffs, regardless of what we were given.

And actually, yeah, I really wanted to watch that Bills/Bengals game too.

staylor26 01-05-2023 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16713699)
He said the rule change was to accommodate the Bills.

It doesn’t do that for them more than it does for any other NFL team.

I think it's pretty obvious what he meant though dude. I'm pretty sure he understands that it doesn't benefit any particular team.

You're just getting caught up in the semantics, because you're too busy simping for the Bills.

DRM08 01-05-2023 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 16713691)
Bye week: HUGE
Not having to play Bills AND Bengals in the playoffs: HUGE
AFCCG at a neutral site: kinda sucks but nothing compared to those other two

People need to stop whining. The Bills could have easily come back and won that game. We could be looking at Cincy in the divisional round and at Buffalo in the AFCCG.

Neutral site is similar to college conference title games, not too bad. Bye week & setting up Buffalo/Cincy to beat each other is pretty huge. But KC has to beat the Raiders first. That won’t be easy.

|Zach| 01-05-2023 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 16713681)
Yep. They're a bunch of whining ****ing emo toddlers. In the past I didn't like them but at least respected them. That's gone forever.

Lets look live at the NFL locker room as a guy nobody has ever heard of on the internet has declared boldly he has lost respect for the team.

The shock waves from this devastating turn will be heard for a while.

mr. tegu 01-05-2023 10:27 PM

So it sounds like the Bengals are now locked in at the 3 seed. They cannot get the 1 seed, which of the three teams, are the only ones with that limit. I don't see a path to the 2 seed for them either. If we lose and they win they still have one less victory so we are still ahead.

For the Bills to get the 1 seed they need us to lose and they win, now no longer having to worry about the Bengals outcome which would have been the case had they lost (and same as forfeiting) which is something I posted about earlier. The Bills actually had better potential outcomes by not playing the game with more to lose by playing it and I believe that motivated them to not try getting the game in.

TwistedChief 01-05-2023 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16713695)
I wonder what their rationale is on changing their position on the vote?

I would imagine it has something to do with 1/ Tom Brady; 2/ the fact it had happened 2 times in 4 seasons; and 3/ the greatest playoff game/ending ever seen in large part decided by a coin toss*.

*I am aware the Chiefs/Patriots playoff game was pretty great too but it wasn’t the same clash of titans and there was Tom Brady

suzzer99 01-05-2023 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16713709)
Neutral site is similar to college conference title games, not too bad. Bye week & setting up Buffalo/Cincy to beat each other is pretty huge. But KC has to beat the Raiders first. That won’t be easy.

Raiders always check out in the last week when they have nothing to play for. We just need to get up a couple scores and they'll pack it in.

Discuss Thrower 01-05-2023 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 16713678)
Why didn’t they just play OT rules for one quarter to determine a winner. They’d play a quarter of football Monday night and all this could have been avoided.

Undermines the entire point of playing 68 quarters of football for a full season for the rest of the league.

staylor26 01-05-2023 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16713712)
I would imagine it has something to do with 1/ Tom Brady; 2/ the fact it had happened 2 times in 4 seasons; and 3/ the greatest playoff game/ending ever seen in large part decided by a coin toss*.

*I am aware the Chiefs/Patriots playoff game was pretty great too but it wasn’t the same clash of titans and there was Tom Brady

LMAO

You're such a ****ing simp.

It's because it happened to the Bills against the Chiefs. Nobody gave a single **** about it when it happened to the Chiefs. When it happened to the Bills, people acted like it was the first time they even heard of the rule. There was an entire movement through the media and fans to change it. That's why something got done.

Eleazar 01-05-2023 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 16713691)
Bye week: HUGE
Not having to play Bills AND Bengals in the playoffs: HUGE
AFCCG at a neutral site: kinda sucks but nothing compared to those other two

People need to stop whining. The Bills could have easily come back and won that game. We could be looking at Cincy in the divisional round and at Buffalo in the AFCCG.

The Chiefs haven’t been hurt here as much as the Bengals have, but it’s still nonsense that the Bills refusing to resume the game under any circumstances could get a road AFCCG for them moved to a neutral site.

Hammock Parties 01-05-2023 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 16713667)
Is there a coalition of 9 teams to block this proposal?

Clark Hunt
Mike Brown
Jerry Jones

Those three are definitely on board.

Andy has pull in Jacksonville and Philadelphia.

Add Shahid Khan and Jeffrey Lurie.

Clark is PROBABLY in tight with Janice McNair (Texas ties) and Stephen Ross in Houston and Miami, especially after we dealt them Tyreek. Ross hates Buffalo. So does Woody Johnson in New York with the Jets.

That's eight.

Who's left? Snyder hates the league, the Hunts and Rooneys go way back. The Bucs, the 49ers? They owe us for 31-9 and...Joe Montana? Dunno.

The question is if they WANT to block it. If they want to, they can.

TwistedChief 01-05-2023 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16713708)
I think it's pretty obvious what he meant though dude. I'm pretty sure he understands that it doesn't benefit any particular team.

You're just getting caught up in the semantics, because you're too busy simping for the Bills.

Yup, that’s exactly what I’m doing.

He’s saying the NFL is changing things to accommodate the Bills and points to today’s ruling in conjunction with the change to the OT rules as proof.

I’m making that up.

mr. tegu 01-05-2023 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16713701)
If Reid is cool with it I doubt Clark votes against it. We'll see what happens.

There's no competitive reason for Clark to not vote against it. Mights as well. Nothing to lose only potential gain.

Shag 01-05-2023 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 16713711)
So it sounds like the Bengals are now locked in at the 3 seed. They cannot get the 1 seed, which of the three teams, are the only ones with that limit. I don't see a path to the 2 seed for them either. If we lose and they win they still have one less victory so we are still ahead.

For the Bills to get the 1 seed they need us to lose and they win, now no longer having to worry about the Bengals outcome which would have been the case had they lost (and same as forfeiting) which is something I posted about earlier. The Bills actually had better potential outcomes by not playing the game with more to lose by playing it and I believe that motivated them to not try getting the game in.

If Cincy wins and Buf loses, Cincy gets the 2 (assuming the playoff machine is accurate).

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-05-2023 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16713707)
I'd just rather they actually follow their own rules without changing them a week before the playoffs, regardless of what we were given.

And actually, yeah, I really wanted to watch that Bills/Bengals game too.

I agree, however, the more I think about it the more I think this will save us from a Flagfest in LV this Sat...

Hammock Parties 01-05-2023 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16713716)
The Chiefs haven’t been hurt here as much as the Bengals have, but it’s still nonsense that the Bills refusing to resume the game under any circumstances could get a road AFCCG for them moved to a neutral site.

The Bengals are not gonna be happy when they play the Bills.

They just pissed away any goodwill.

Eleazar 01-05-2023 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 16713711)
The Bills actually had better potential outcomes by not playing the game with more to lose by playing it and I believe that motivated them to not try getting the game in.

Yeah, and whether they used this situation to lean on the NFL so things were tilted in their favor or the NFL did it voluntarily, it isn’t right.

Dartgod 01-05-2023 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by digger (Post 16713640)

That didn't change a thing. If we beat the Raiders on Saturday, the Bills and Bengals will be the 2 and 3 seeds. If they both win their WC games they will play each other and the Chiefs will get the winner of the 4/5 WC game.

There is no way those two teams can play each other in the AFCCG if we have the 1 seed.


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