Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 11743386)

Exactly. Kubiak's coaching was so bad it appears that Manning started ignoring him and running his own offense.

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11743339)

You just have to execute.

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 11743396)

Reid out coached his own damn self.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11743379)

NFL head coaches have always been "bad", which is why so many are fired and hired each year. And the reason for this is simple:

There is only so much one man can do from the sidelines.

Players have to execute. Plain and simple. When players execute, teams win, which makes head coaches look "great". When players don't execute, head coaches look like fools, allowing everyone to criticize.

Reid has won far more games than he's lost, making him a good head coach. He's definitely one of the best at game planning and scheming. He does his "thing" well but once it's off script, he has as many problems as anyone else in the league, which is why you'll always hear commentators say "He just needs to stick with the game plan".

I can't believe that anyone thought that Kubiak "out coached" Reid. If so, that's a joke. The Chiefs didn't execute and turned over the ball five times.

That's why they lost.

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 11743405)

I don't think he's "bad". When I criticize Reid, it's rarely anything to do with playcalling. It's usually pertaining to him being oblivious to clock, down, and distance situations, of which there's a long track record. He's one of the last guys on earth I'd want managing my team in a critical 2 minute situation.

Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 11742784)

He hasn't been out coached, he over thinks it and gets too cute.

1st and goal, run the ****ing rock 4 times if needed.

It seems more like play calling than coaching that he struggles with

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11743432)

wrong


Reid setup a game plan against Denver that was the exact opposite of what it should have been. We used a misdirection,lateral offense against a undersized,speed defense. That is a mistake from day 1 of the game plan. Reid was either too stupid or stubborn to use the correct game plan.

The fact that we don't have a power back on the team indicates that Reid has no plan to ever change regardless of the opponent.

Andy Reid was a good guy to bring in to turn the organization around but this should be his last year in Kansas City.

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 11743405)

I don't think he's "bad". When I criticize Reid, it's rarely anything to do with playcalling. It's usually pertaining to him being oblivious to clock, down, and distance situations, of which there's a long track record. He's one of the last guys on earth I'd want managing my team in a critical 2 minute situation.

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11743432)

wrong


Reid setup a game plan against Denver that was the exact opposite of what it should have been. We used a misdirection,lateral offense against a undersized,speed defense. That is a mistake from day 1 of the game plan. Reid was either too stupid or stubborn to use the correct game plan.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11743437)

I just don't understand the criticism and hate towards Reid for Thursday night's loss. I can't recall any team at any point in time overcoming five turnovers to win a game against a team as formidable as the Broncos and their HOF QB.

I could see how people would go nuts if he had called and end around featuring James O'Shaunessey or Frankie Hammond. But Reid put the ball in the hands of his best offensive player and that player failed to execute.

Let's not pretend like Reid didn't do the smart thing. And for those of you that counter with "play for OT", which would have been foolish against Manning anyway, as Reid said, he played to win the game.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11743437)

I just don't understand the criticism and hate towards Reid for Thursday night's loss. I can't recall any team at any point in time overcoming five turnovers to win a game against a team as formidable as the Broncos and their HOF QB.

I could see how people would go nuts if he had called and end around featuring James O'Shaunessey or Frankie Hammond. But Reid put the ball in the hands of his best offensive player and that player failed to execute.

Let's not pretend like Reid didn't do the smart thing. And for those of you that counter with "play for OT", which would have been foolish against Manning anyway, as Reid said, he played to win the game.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11743437)

I just don't understand the criticism and hate towards Reid for Thursday night's loss. I can't recall any team at any point in time overcoming five turnovers to win a game against a team as formidable as the Broncos and their HOF QB.

I could see how people would go nuts if he had called and end around featuring James O'Shaunessey or Frankie Hammond. But Reid put the ball in the hands of his best offensive player and that player failed to execute.

Let's not pretend like Reid didn't do the smart thing. And for those of you that counter with "play for OT", which would have been foolish against Manning anyway, as Reid said, he played to win the game.

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 11743440)

Just curious, what coaching experience do you have?