Then why did you say "and in fact almost none of them went on to become starters" when 4 of the 6 players you listed DID?

Exactly.

Could have added Victory Riley, or Sylvester Morris, or Ryan Sims to that list...

Good God his drafts have been horrible. :banghead:

Clearly I should have said for the Chiefs, my error.

Where did I EVER say it's not acceptable to bash on Dawes?

I merely pointed out the irony (and HYPOCRISY) of posting Dawes' articles here for "entertainment" purposes.

I never said prior to FA. Re-read the post(s).

No problemo. :thumb:

In that case, add Victor Riley and possibly even John Tait.

And then there's Joe Horn and Greg Favors.

Goddammit Jim! :banghead:

While I agree you did not say it dirctly you certainly seemed to imply it with the year after year teams can stock up in FA statement. If I read something into it you did not intend, my error, and my apologies.

I didn't mean to imply. No big thing Vlad.

My point is this:

Carl Peterson is a joke. Rufus Dawes is quite possibly the lowest-class Bush League insult to fans in all of professional sports, let alone the NFL.

But everytime a guy like KK or Whitlock levels a VALID criticism against him, all he has to do is say "Yeah, look who that came from. Mr. Pants around his ankles, or Mr. Walked out of his radio show while on the air."

Now, now, Rufus will have a hard time beating out Al D_avis:p

ive been watchin it for to long dont think so

I think you'll find "most" great teams were built through the draft(Steelers, 49ers, Cowboys) but in today's era you need to have a good combination of great drafts & making correct decision in the FA market. Obviously if Carl had drafted the correct players over the last few years to go along with the Priest Holmes & Willie Roaf's the Chiefs would be up in the Patriots echelon. You have to have a few years of great drafts to go along with the correct signings of FA's.

DAMMIT CARL!!!!!!!! :cuss:

The reason you build through the draft is that it's cheaper. You get a 2nd, 3rd, 4th round pick signed to a three or four year deal at a reasonable price. If you go sign a vet, they get paid more...plain and simple. The Eagles have guys like Sheppard, Brown, M. Lewis, etc. who aren't getting paid as much as guys like Woods, Wesley and Warfield despite the painful disparity in level of play. Why? The Chiefs have years in the league which means money.

I really can't believe anyone believes that FA/trade is even remotely as important as building through the draft. Hell, not many teams have done better through FA/trade than the Chiefs, and look at our lack of success on the field. We're the perfect counterpoint.

Pat Tillman (7th rnd), Anquan Boldin, Larry Fitzgerald, Leonard Davis, David Boston, LJ Shelton, Cory Chavous, Michael Pittman, Frank Sanders, Garrison Hearst, Jeff Christy, Ricky Proehl, Larry Centers, Tom Tupa...


Oh, and Jake Plummer. :)

Kietzman was on fire today! I usually can't stand the guy, but apparently bashing Carl is his strong suit.

Unbelievably good radio!