Jared Allen, Kawika Mitchell, Derrick Johnson, those 3 starters fit a cover 2. After that I'm really questionable on if any of the other guys do. I'm sure Surtain can play it but it isn't his strength and now his contract seems really out of hand for a defense that isn't defined by great corner play.

I don't like either safety for it, I don't like any of our lineman other than Allen for basically any defense. The positive to this is, is atleast we're changing defenses when the majority of the players need to be replaced anyway.

How much does a football weigh?

I think if they can at least let Surtain start getting in peoples faces and bumping them off the line instead of playing 8 yards off, which bumping is allowed in the cover 2, could make him worth while.

Our DL is an issue no matter what D we play, Allen has proved the only guy on that line who can make a play.

As far as Safety, well, we all know what we have there. With any luck Woods will be released after June 1st, and hopefully we can pick up a starter in the draft.

Bell was crap last year, but who knows, we may end up playing some more 3 4 this year, which I think could lead to some interesting play from out LB's.

Either way, I believe we will still mix up our D's some.

We have to get another corner who has some kind of playmaking ability or teams are just going to avoid Surtain all year.

Maybe you can expand on this and tell why some players or types of players work better in this defense than others. educate us.

Alright..........

Cover 2 is all about speed and pass rush. Big hulking DT/DE's have no place in a cover 2 defense. Cover 2 defenses are generally undersized but blazingly fast. DT's like, I'll use this years draft as an example, Broderick Bunkley would be a better fit for a cover 2 than Haloti Ngata. The job of the entire line is to penetrate and create pressure, which is why cover 2's can be exploited in the run game.

The coverage of a cover 2 is a base zone where the corners up are tight and play short zones while the safeties are responsible for over the top/deep coverage. If you run the "Tampa 2" version of it the MLB also needs to have excellent speed as in numerous coverage he will drop 20-30 yards straight back in coverage to take away the deep middle.

Thats the type of thing I'm looking for in a thread like this....information and examples that those who want to learn about, can understand.

It seems to me that Ron Edwards, the DT brought in from Buffalo fits your agenda for a Cover 2 DT.

Woods has no place in cover 2 and I don't know that Wesley does either. The Chiefs have got to improve the FS position for sure, and aquire another Corner. Because of the Short zones and physical play required by the corners....this is another reason that a big corner like Walls, may be a solid pickup imo.

Edwards does fit into this defense so that was a nice pickup. Problem is that he and Dalton should be the 3-4 tackles so we need the 1-2.

Personally I think Lenny Walls could be a pretty good FS in this defense. Draft Cromartie in the first, put him and Surtain out there at CB, move Walls back to FS, cut Wesley and Woods, then hopefully pick up a SS in the 3rd to compete with Knight and take over next year.

Or any other defense for that matter! :)

I've got a question.

I've never understood the discrepencies between chop blocks and real blocks. Many times I see Trent Green go out for a block and get down low as to trip the defensive player. Then what about chop blocks? Isn't that what Trent Green just did was a chop block?

Also, what cheating system did Alex Gibbs use before and how has he changed his blocking schemes to make them legal?

Also someone explain the finer details of false starts. Like in the Al Saunders offense where there are two people doing two different things at once before the ball is snapped... I thought that was illegal to have two men in motion at once? How/why can they do that and why is it sometimes called and others it is not?

SNR,

The difference, and what makes the block illegal....Its not illegal to hit someone low. It is illegal to cut someone when they are engaged high...ex...Guard is standing up with DT....Center cuts his legs while he's engaged.

thats illegal.

That technique was pretty common in Gibbs' Zone blocking offenses.

A lineman can cut a DT low, but has to make contract first I believe....hands to shoulder pads, then drop and cut low.

I think thats the basics.


As for the 2 players in motion....that is illegal, if the QB has Set the formation...After that point, only 1 player can be in motion at one time, and it can't be going forward. Prior to the QB setting the line, they can adjust the formation however they choose.

Like Iownanian said, it is illegal if the player is already engaged. In the college book a chop block is defined by a delay of one second or more. In other words, if a player contacts the defensive player high and then a second or more later another offensive player takes him out low, that is a chop block and illegal due to its dangerous nature.

All 11 offensive players must come set for one full second. Once that has happened it is legal for one player to go in motion away from the line of scrimmage and to snap the ball. If two or more players go in motion, all 11 players must again set for one full second before the snap. Two players can never be in motion at the snap nor can two players go in motion and one stop and the other stay in motion. They must both stop and reset before the snap or you will have an illegal shift.

Not real happy with the clarity of my answer but I would be glad to try again if you like.

I was asked about this thread earlier, and going into the draft week, it might be something that can help some newer fans understand some of the "why" some players are better fits for some teams than others.