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Dartgod 05-02-2006 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John
Cutler has proven to be more natural than Croyle at making a second chance at a play happen, due to his athleticism and ability to escape.

And under Jake's tutelage, he will learn to use those second opportunities to throw left handed interceptions deep in his own territory.

KCTitus 05-02-2006 12:52 PM

21 QB's drafted in the 3rd round since 1989...

1989: Erik Wilhelm, Anthony Dilweg
1990: Tommy HOdson, Peter Tom Willis, Neil O'Donnell
1993: Billy Joe Hobert
1995: Stoney Case, Eric Zeier
1996: Bobby Hoying
1998: Jonathan Quinn, Brian Griese
1999: Brock Huard
2000: Chris Redman, Giovanni Carmazzi
2002: Josh McCown
2003: Dave Ragone, Chris Simms
2004: Matt Schaub
2005: Charlie Frye, Andrew Walter, David Greene

Looking at this list, the only QB that ever amounted to a hill of beans was the one that Denver drafted, so it's clear that Croyle has no prayer playing QB in the NFL.

vailpass 05-02-2006 12:53 PM

Chiefs Fan:

"Ha ha ha. Broncospaid WAY more for his Schwinn than we did for our sweeeett Huffys. And ours have wheels and pedals and a frame so they must be just as good as yours.
And we paid a LOT less. Both tires have popped but they have patches now. We're so smart. Schwinn and Huffy are the same thing. Uncle Carl said so."

stevieray 05-02-2006 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass
Chiefs Fan:

"Ha ha ha. Broncospaid WAY more for his Schwinn than we did for our sweeeett Huffys. And ours have wheels and pedals and a frame so they must be just as good as yours.
And we paid a LOT less. We're so smart. Schwinn and Huffy are the same thing. Uncle Carl said so."

Given both teams track record of drafting QB's, assuming that Cutler is better because he was chosen by Denver is silly.

Time will tell. Let's see Cutler come back from those injuries before we compare toughness.

Dave Lane 05-02-2006 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj
They both got QB's with good arms who took a beating in college. Denver's QB never suffered a major injury though. Advantage - Bronco's. Except for the huge QB controversy that will erupt after the first Plummer INT of the year.


So 14:38 in the 1st game and it all erupts!

Dave

FAX 05-02-2006 12:56 PM

There once was a donk fan who thought
Their draft pick was great but he's not.
Cutler never threw scores
'Cause he played for the 'Dores.
The rat's better off picking snot.

FAX

CosmicPal 05-02-2006 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCTitus
21 QB's drafted in the 3rd round since 1989...

1989: Erik Wilhelm, Anthony Dilweg
1990: Tommy HOdson, Peter Tom Willis, Neil O'Donnell
1993: Billy Joe Hobert
1995: Stoney Case, Eric Zeier
1996: Bobby Hoying
1998: Jonathan Quinn, Brian Griese
1999: Brock Huard
2000: Chris Redman, Giovanni Carmazzi
2002: Josh McCown
2003: Dave Ragone, Chris Simms
2004: Matt Schaub
2005: Charlie Frye, Andrew Walter, David Greene

Looking at this list, the only QB that ever amounted to a hill of beans was the one that Denver drafted, so it's clear that Croyle has no prayer playing QB in the NFL.

Wah! Billy Joe Hobert was a freakin' stud, ,man!

:D

Chris Simms seems to be doing all right with Tampa Bay. But, I agree- looking at that list- it doesn't look very good for Croyle. But, does it really matter WHERE they are drafted?

morphius 05-02-2006 12:58 PM

Its impossible to say, so far Denver has yet to have a QB that didn't need a tight leash and a psychatrist since elway left and KC hasn't devopled a QB anytime recently. Seems to be a bit of a wash.

KCTitus 05-02-2006 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CosmicPal
Wah! Billy Joe Hobert was a freakin' stud, ,man!

I know...and Carl wasted his pick on a OG that year.

HerculesRockefell 05-02-2006 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dartgod
And under Jake's tutelage, he will learn to use those second opportunities to throw left handed interceptions deep in his own territory.

Gotta do something to help KC stay in the game at Invesco.

FringeNC 05-02-2006 01:07 PM

That article is a joke. Vince Young one of the best QB prospects to come along in years? How can a guy with a 6 Wonderlic score be a successful NFL quarterback? It's just not going to happen.

I'll take Cutler over Croyle, but Croyle over Vince Young.

Neither Cutler nor Croyle had much offensive talent around them. Croyle was the highest ranked QB coming out of high school. He should have gone somewhere other than Alabama, and he may have been a first-rounder too.

vailpass 05-02-2006 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX
There once was a donk fan who thought
Their draft pick was great but he's not.
Cutler never threw scores
'Cause he played for the 'Dores.
The rat's better off picking snot.

FAX

That shit might cut it in GoChiefs Gay2006HighSchoolPopularityCircleJerkMostPopularCPMemberEVAR111!!!
but it won't win play off games!!!

:p

CupidStunt 05-02-2006 01:14 PM

Overall, i'd take Jay Cutler by a solid(ish) margin, but Cutler as the 11th pick or Croyle as the 85th pick, and it ain't even close - Croyle.

Pitt Gorilla 05-02-2006 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass
WTF? None of those three chumps had anywhere near the on and off field talents/intangibles Cutler has. Feel free to not put words into my mouth going forward, thanks.

I must have missed where I directly attributed anything to you. Note the "I'd GUESS that people LIKE" in my post. Comprehension, Grasshopper.

CupidStunt 05-02-2006 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John
If Bono Croyle can stay healthy, there's no telling how many games he can lose with you guys...

Maybe he can give Jay Cutler a call and ask him for advice on how to deal with losing.


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