Originally Posted by Bwana

:spock:

I think we will be fine, but let me jump on the bandwagon with all the doom bringers.
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Originally Posted by Logical

Not doomed just more of our long suffering continued.

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

All of you doom and gloom posters should really think about finding a new hobby. I don't think that watching the Chiefs is healthy for any of you anymore. Seriously, Royals fans are optimistic than some of you guys. Think about it. You watch this game and follow this team for fun. If you have become soooooo miserable in following this little drama over the past (fill in the blank) years, that you now have to prepare yourself for horrible, rotten seasons just to be able to cope it's time to hang them up. Take up something else. All it takes in this league is a little luck and it can make all the difference between 6-10 and 12-4. Luck. One way or the other. Just calm the **** down.

Originally Posted by ZachKC

But you can be honest, there isn't a situation in which a year could go by where you wouldn't make one of these threads before the season.

Originally Posted by Logical

Being serious for a moment who are you to tell us we should find another hobby. I have seen the good times (two Super Bowls) and suffered the eighties and the Carl Peterson 17 year plan. This team it seems is cursed to some sort of failure on the order of the Boston Red Sox. Yet people will still follow them just like the people still follow the Cubs and Red Sox in the slight hope that there will one day be that grand and glorious year like the Red Sox fans had a couple of years ago. Won't stop complaining and suffering until it happens and that is part of being a loyal Chiefs fan.

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

I think its funny that you always have these "it's over before it starts" threads before the season starts. This is becoming a tradition and expected at this point.

I am ready for the season, let's see what happens!

Originally Posted by Logical

After DJ was drafted my enthusiasm had me going a little overboard. I still think 11-5 is the likely record going all the way to the AFC Championship. I think 12-4 with a few breaks is entirely possible, to me that would be ideal given our grueling schedule.

Originally Posted by Logical

I don't like it and I think he is wrong but if I was an oddsmaker I would probably place the Chiefs towards the middle. I will say again I think the Chiefs will go 11-5 and win their division and even reach the AFC championship game if not better.

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OK now having said all that:
I believe we will still finish top 5 offense

I believe we will finish in the top 12 defensively

I believe that we had a really awful year injury wise and that balance says we are more fortunate this year.

Originally Posted by Logical

Actually here is what I said before the start of last season.

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

I actually remember those posts, but how do you go from that to doom and gloom yet again, because of the Roaf retiring? We don't know what we got in offensive line, might as well atleast try a wait and see approach rather than throwing in the towel already. Hopefully our defense will be alot better and our new tackle can do 'decent', My hopes went down a little bit with this retiring, but i still think we got a pretty good shot at having a good season, hopefully more.

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

We are NOT going back to Martyball.

God.