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Reerun_KC 12-22-2006 11:58 AM

The Kieth Traylor was really a one I wish Carl and fucktarty would of kept.

All he did was go to Denver and anchor that D line for 2 superbowls....

DaneMcCloud 12-22-2006 11:58 AM



My bad on Horn. I was thinking 1995 for some reason when I wrote that and didn't double check.

Keith Traylor wasn't a draft choice.

Fujita hasn't made the Pro Bowl.

Tongue had minimal impact elsewhere.

HemiEd 12-22-2006 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
The Titans aren't resplendent with talent, they just have a good coach.

Drafting 6th and 3rd the last two years could not have hurt the talent at his disposal.

Baby Lee 12-22-2006 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud
Yeah, but.
Addendum A.
Subpart Q.
Some other obscure exception

Whatever.
If your point is that the Chiefs haven't drafted many players in years xxx-yyy who made the pro-bowl elsewhere, say THAT.
Not "nobody's left in the past 10 years and contributed elswhere."

htismaqe 12-22-2006 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd
Drafting 6th and 3rd the last two years could not have hurt the talent at his disposal.

That's two players out of 22 starters. And we could always bring up Pac Man Jones.

DaneMcCloud 12-22-2006 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee
Whatever.

Huh? So you're DEFENDING Peterson's incredibly awful draft record? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, dude?!!!

2112 12-22-2006 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Zouk
C'mon man - WR's take time to develop. You can find lots of Wideouts around the league who blossomed in their 3rd year, that doesn't mean all the guys that coached those players were stupid for not starting them in their rookie or sophmore years.

Didn't Erik Coleman and Kerry Rhodes both start as rookies?

Yep..Coleman and Rhodes..but..I can assure you..had he come back..Mawae and Abraham would be back too,and B.Thomas would be rotting on the bench..he would have never started Mangold as a rookie center or Dbrick as a LT..

I still think he should have kept Lamont Jordan instead of Curtis Martin...

Sorry Mr. ismaqe,I had to reply to this one.. ;)

htismaqe 12-22-2006 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud
Huh? So you're DEFENDING Peterson's incredibly awful draft record? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, dude?!!!

Why does everybody here automatically play that card?

Pointing out inaccuracies in your statement DOES NOT EQUAL defending anybody, let alone Carl Peterson.

HemiEd 12-22-2006 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
That's two players out of 22 starters. And we could always bring up Pac Man Jones.

Um, what position did they draft in the 2nd through 7th rounds?

htismaqe 12-22-2006 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bill parcells
Yep..Coleman and Rhodes..but..I can assure you..had he come back..Mawae and Abraham would be back too,and B.Thomas would be rotting on the bench..he would have never started Mangold as a rookie center or Dbrick as a LT..

I still think he should have kept Lamont Jordan instead of Curtis Martin...

Sorry Mr. ismaqe,I had to reply to this one.. ;)

Hey, it's your opinion. I got no problem with it. I actually agree with you.

htismaqe 12-22-2006 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd
Um, what position did they draft in the 2nd through 7th rounds?

High draft picks don't automatically mean great players. What's your point anyway? That Jeff Fisher isn't a good coach?

melbar 12-22-2006 12:18 PM

Our Safeties are the big problem here. That play by Clayton you can see Law looking for his safety help and their not where they are supposed to be. I dont think either CB can trust where the Safeties are so that they can be agressive. If you cant be agressive then you become tentitive and you cant do that and be successfull. No push up front doesnt help...

DaneMcCloud 12-22-2006 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
Why does everybody here automatically play that card?

Pointing out inaccuracies in your statement DOES NOT EQUAL defending anybody, let alone Carl Peterson.

Where was I inaccurate? I said "Name me a player that's made an impact elsewhere" in an effort to show the poor draft record. Not that I didn't know about Edwards, Horn, Tait. Duh.

HemiEd 12-22-2006 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
High draft picks don't automatically mean great players. What's your point anyway? That Jeff Fisher isn't a good coach?

Not at all, my point is the same as I make to Bears fans up here. When you continually pick in the top 5, you should have a pretty darn good selection of talent to work with. Better than a team like the Chiefs that is always picking 15-22. I would hate to suffer through the seasons, but I would love to see Carl have an opportunity to pick in the top 5 two years in a row.

DaneMcCloud 12-22-2006 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd
Not at all, my point is the same as I make to Bears fans up here. When you continually pick in the top 5, you should have a pretty darn good selection of talent to work with. Better than a team like the Chiefs that is always picking 15-22. I would hate to suffer through the seasons, but I would love to see Carl have an opportunity to pick in the top 5 two years in a row.

Well, if you want to go top 6, CP is about 50-50. DT was number 4 overall, Ryan Sims number 6. I think we can all agree that Sims was equally as bad a pick as DT was a good one.

Not good odd, IMSHO.


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