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ChiefsCountry 01-08-2007 01:00 PM

Russell reminds me of Culpepper. No way I want him on the Chiefs.

Mecca 01-08-2007 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by louie aguiar
Calvin Johnson just came out and declared for the draft.

That was about the worst kept secret in history........

I'd much rather have Russell than Quinn that's for sure.

Chiefnj 01-08-2007 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
That was about the worst kept secret in history........

I'd much rather have Russell than Quinn that's for sure.

Russell or Smith??

Basileus777 01-08-2007 03:55 PM

Russell vs Quinn won't impact the Chiefs, both will be gone way before we pick. The only first round qb we have a shot at is Brohm.

Mecca 01-08-2007 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777
Russell vs Quinn won't impact the Chiefs, both will go gone way before we pick. The only first round qb we have a shot at is Brohm.

He's been pretty consistent that he isn't coming out.

Basileus777 01-08-2007 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
He's been pretty consistent that he isn't coming out.

That was before his coach left. Petrino leaving changes everything. He might not want to risk playing for a new coach and in a new scheme.

JBucc 01-08-2007 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
He's been pretty consistent that he isn't coming out.

But now his coach is gone. I don't think it would be wise for him to stay and have to learn a new system his senior year.

El Jefe 01-08-2007 04:03 PM

Raiders have shown a lot of interest. Quinn is way better IMO. Give Quinn LSU's Defense and that team would be hard to beat, too much pressure on ND's offense to keep them in the game.

JBucc 01-08-2007 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777
That was before his coach left. Petrino leaving changes everything. He might not want to risk playing for a new coach and in a new scheme.

Yeah what he said

Mecca 01-08-2007 04:05 PM

What if they promote his brother? His brother is one of the offensive coaches down there...they'd be stupid to hire a coach who'd completely change everything.

Basileus777 01-08-2007 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
What if they promote his brother? His brother is one of the offensive coaches down there...they'd be stupid to hire a coach who'd completely change everything.

It looks like they will be hiring Kragthorpe from Tusla. Right now Jeff Brohm could be promoted to OC or he could go with Petrino to Atlanta. I don't know if Brohm will come out or not, but there is still a significant chance that he leaves.

CupidStunt 01-12-2007 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho
1) The speed in the secondary will be different than what he sees in college. Russell's receivers usually have a distinct speed advantage right now... when that disappears, I think he'll throw a lot more picks on busted plays than he does now because the corners will have the wheels to stay with the receivers on busted plays.

Same goes for just about every top-end QB coming out of an elite school. The difference is that Russell sees SEC defenses and not garbage like the stuff Matt Leinart, for example, among others, used to see in the Pac-10.

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2) His size advantage will become less of a factor in the NFL because everyone is bigger, stronger, faster, better tackler, etc. He'll escape fewer pressure situations, and that's his biggest quality.

It isn't much of a factor now. He doesn't do well because he's big and strong. And looking at similar QBs in the NFL - Big Ben and Culpepper - leads me to believe that Russell will still be able to take advantage of NFL defenses with his size.

Extra Point 01-12-2007 05:27 AM

Chief Nute is transferring some funds from savings to pay lj4mvp, as Kiper Jr. has Russell going 4th!

http://proxy.espn.go.com/melkiper/index.html

htismaqe 01-12-2007 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho
His team was already eliminated from SEC title contention against Arkansas... (which ranked 35th against the pass in the country, just one spot ahead of Missouri :rolleyes: ), and he also failed to get in the end zone against Auburn and produced just three points. Heck, even Zac Taylor managed more than that, and he was doing it with far less talent on his team (and inept coaching to boot).

It's not just that he turns the ball over. It's that when the talent level evens, his production drops off. And his turnovers are bonehead turnovers (like the fumble in the ND game or the pick on the deep throw around the goal line). I'm not just basing this opinion on 2006... it's been the story of his career.

I see one top 8 team on LSU's schedule (Florida), looking at the final rankings.

35th out of ONE HUNDRED AND NINETEEN. ROFL

htismaqe 01-12-2007 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho
At least one of them was, IIRC. I think I have a tape of that game at home... might break it out and watch it at some point tonight (halftime, perhaps?) Most of the interceptions I've seen him throw leave me wondering what he was thinking.

He makes a lot of plays in college because his size allows him to shrug off hits, then roll out and chuck it deep.

A couple more reasons I don't think he'll succeed in the NFL...

1) The speed in the secondary will be different than what he sees in college. Russell's receivers usually have a distinct speed advantage right now... when that disappears, I think he'll throw a lot more picks on busted plays than he does now because the corners will have the wheels to stay with the receivers on busted plays.

2) His size advantage will become less of a factor in the NFL because everyone is bigger, stronger, faster, better tackler, etc. He'll escape fewer pressure situations, and that's his biggest quality.

3) He's going to be playing for the Raiders. :)

1) He plays in the SEC. Give me a break.

2) His size advantage isn't a factor now. His ARM is.

3) I ABSOLUTELY agree.


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