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ChiefsCountry 07-12-2007 08:12 AM

Here is my take - KU wont go 10-2. That is some good drugs you are on to think that. If Mizzou doesnt win the North this year, they are screwed for a while, mainly bc I think if Nebraska gets it they will be back on top for a while.

eazyb81 07-12-2007 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry
Here is my take - KU wont go 10-2. That is some good drugs you are on to think that. If Mizzou doesnt win the North this year, they are screwed for a while, mainly bc I think if Nebraska gets it they will be back on top for a while.

I tend to agree. If Nebraska doesn't win the North this year, I believe Callihan could get canned, and at the very least will be on the hot seat to win it the following year.

However, if Nebraska wins the division this season, then the recruits will keep flowing in because they know Callihan will be there for awhile, and then it could get rough for the rest of the teams in the North. I like what Pinkel is doing at Mizzou, but in reality they can't keep up with the Huskers if they're running at full steam.

Should be a fun season!

DJay23 07-12-2007 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
Still - at year 6 in his tenure though? It's not just about SoS, it's about value to your ticket holders as well.

And I would argue that K-State maintained their cream puff Non-con for Snyder's entire tenure save two or three decent opponents. Where was the value there?

Saulbadguy 07-12-2007 11:19 AM

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And I would argue that K-State maintained their cream puff Non-con for Snyder's entire tenure save two or three decent opponents. Where was the value there?

I suppose you are right - Snyder did ramp up the schedule once we got screwed by the BCS in 98. They were rarely as bad as KU's is now.

I guess I'll agree with you - until Mangino can get his team to start winning conference games, it's probably safe to line up 4 patsies right off the bat.

mikeyis4dcats. 07-12-2007 11:19 AM

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I just want to point out that if it were not for, "pussy schedules" K-State probably wouldn't have a football program.

Mangino learned from Snyder. You've got to start winning to get the recruits, and if your program sucks balls, you've got to start with "weaker" competition.

easy non-conference schedules != "easiest schedule in the country in 2007"

Saulbadguy 07-12-2007 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.
easy non-conference schedules != "easiest schedule in the country in 2007"

Some of ours were pretty bad in the mid to late 90's. Probably not the worst in the country, but they had to be close.

Still, we would go undefeated or 1 loss in conference after that. Until Mangino can go .500 in conference, it's probably a safe bet to continue scheduling like this so he can guarantee a bowl game and keep feeding his apologists with excuses.

Priest4Prez 07-12-2007 11:27 AM

They won't beat Iowa State

Eleazar 07-12-2007 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
Until Mangino can go .500 in conference, it's probably a safe bet to continue scheduling like this so he can guarantee a bowl game and keep feeding his apologists with excuses.

Exactly.

Saulbadguy 07-12-2007 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Priest4Prez
They won't beat Iowa State

I'd say ISU is probably their easiest non-con opponent.

mikeyis4dcats. 07-12-2007 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
Some of ours were pretty bad in the mid to late 90's. Probably not the worst in the country, but they had to be close.

Still, we would go undefeated or 1 loss in conference after that. Until Mangino can go .500 in conference, it's probably a safe bet to continue scheduling like this so he can guarantee a bowl game and keep feeding his apologists with excuses.

I'd have to look into it again and don't have the time today, but as I recalll last I reviewed our SoS, we were always in the top 75% under Snyder. We finished as high as 10 one year IIRC.

Saulbadguy 07-12-2007 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.
I'd have to look into it again and don't have the time today, but as I recalll last I reviewed our SoS, we were always in the top 75% under Snyder. We finished as high as 10 one year IIRC.

That is because the Big 8/12 was pretty damn strong in the 90's.

Lzen 07-12-2007 12:23 PM

BWillie007, I think you're predictions are little nuts. KU might end up with a winning record and make a bowl, but I haven't seen enough to think that they can win 10 games. That being said, I don't see them losing 93-10. I see the game at A&M as a loss, but not by that big a margin. Also, we play Nebraska at Lawrence this year. We beat the Hell out of them 2 years ago in Lawrence and played them into OT at Lincoln last year. No way does Nebraska win 63-0. As a matter of fact, I think KU has a good shot in that game. I think KU will lose at OSU, though. The rest, who knows.

Saul, KU also had not beaten KSU in 11 years before the 2004 season. Last I checked, KU has taken 2 out of the last 3 from KSU. That streak you mention won't be around much longer. ;)

Saulbadguy 07-12-2007 12:33 PM

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Saul, KU also had not beaten KSU in 11 years before the 2004 season. Last I checked, KU has taken 2 out of the last 3 from KSU. That streak you mention won't be around much longer. ;)

KSU also went to 11 straight bowls before KU beat them. Coincidence? They've taken 2 out of the last 3..er...13 :P

Lzen 07-12-2007 12:38 PM

I find it comical when a KSU fan makes fun of KU's weak non-con schedule. KSU's non con schedules were just as weak as KU's is this year. Anybody who says otherwise is most likely a KSU homer.

By the mid to late 90s, KSU had become a powerhouse program. They should have been scheduling strong opponents. Who knows, maybe it would have helped toughen them and give them confidence to win a title.

chuxtrux 07-12-2007 12:50 PM

I think 9-3


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