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|Zach| 09-27-2007 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Duck Dog
There is no such thing as black on white racially motivated crimes. :rolleyes:

Whoa.

Strawman.

Mr. Laz 09-27-2007 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian
Another thing.....why the hell do so many urban thugs feel the need to attack in a pack? For Crimeny sake....its 1, lone, 13 year old white kid.....not Jet Li.

it's consider "cool" to record a group "beatdown" :shake:




it my day it was called "being a possy" cause you weren't man enough to fight on your own.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-27-2007 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free
Whitey bad.

Dude, you need to get a grip. As soon as this thread was posted, generalities started flying out from everyone....

"Blacks only fight in groups, they're too afraid"

"The white man is getting screwed" and yada yada yada.

Sometimes this site makes me embarrassed to be a Chiefs fan.


Look, there exists a reality where both crimes, in Jena, and this one are completely heinous, and even if it were racially motivated on either side, making wholesale accusations about an entire race based upon a sample size that could fit comfortably in an SUV is a ridiculous and ignorant leap.

|Zach| 09-27-2007 12:07 PM

As time goes on my support for the idea of hate crime designation lessens.

Donger 09-27-2007 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Kings
http://www.koco.com/video/14202233/index.html

Never mind, the attackers weren't white so it must have just been coincidental.

How do you know that this was racially-motivated? Maybe the white kid is just an a$$hole?

Mr. Laz 09-27-2007 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
Dude, you need to get a grip. As soon as this thread was posted, generalities started flying out from everyone....

"Blacks only fight in groups, they're too afraid"

"The white man is getting screwed" and yada yada yada.

Sometimes this site makes me embarrassed to be a Chiefs fan.


Look, there exists a reality where both crimes, in Jena, and this one are completely heinous, and even if it were racially motivated on either side, making wholesale accusations about an entire race based upon a sample size that could fit comfortably in an SUV is a ridiculous and ignorant leap.

don't jesse jackson, farikan and all there cohorts do the same all the time?

whitey is starting to get pissed about this 1-way racism standard.


if the skin color were reversed there would be "no doubt" about whether it was racially motivated on not. Another million man march would already be on the horizon .... not to mention rumblings of a race riot some place in protest.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-27-2007 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz
don't jesse jackson, farikan and all there cohorts do the same all the time?

whitey is starting to get pissed about this 1-way racism standard.


if the skin color were reversed there would be "no doubt" about whether it was racially motivated on not. Another million man march would already be on the horizon .... not to mention rumblings of a race riot some place in protest.

So your theoretical "reversal" somehow makes it right?

Show me where I've supported Jesse Jackson or Farakhan.....

Just because you oppose one bad action doesn't mean that you're a good person.

Can't both stances be wrong and objectionable?

Mr. Laz 09-27-2007 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
So your theoretical "reversal" somehow makes it right?

Show me where I've supported Jesse Jackson or Farakhan.....

Just because you oppose one bad action doesn't mean that you're a good person.

Can't both stances be wrong and objectionable?

didn't say you supported anything ..... this isn't about you. This is about the subject matter of the thread.

yes, this beating is wrong no matter what the skin color.


using it as political statement isn't good for anyone either.


But the reality is Good for the Goose, Good for the Gander


as long as african america groups call racism at every opportunity and continue to try to use racism as a social power tool there will be backlash.


it's also happening with religion.....


as long as people go around hitting people upside the head with their bibles saying "i'm better than you ...... Repent!!!" there is going to be backlash when an incident happens on the religion side.


bash gays, then get caught toe-tapping in a bathroom stall ... backlash

condemn homosexuality then molest and altar boy ..... backlash.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-27-2007 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz
as long as african america groups call racism at every opportunity and continue to try to use racism as a social power tool there will be backlash.

So 6 kids being dickheads (and perhaps racists themselves) in Norfolk should overrule any other racist tendencies in our countries??

Easy 6 09-27-2007 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
Dude, you need to get a grip. As soon as this thread was posted, generalities started flying out from everyone....

"Blacks only fight in groups, they're too afraid"

"The white man is getting screwed" and yada yada yada.

Sometimes this site makes me embarrassed to be a Chiefs fan.


Look, there exists a reality where both crimes, in Jena, and this one are completely heinous, and even if it were racially motivated on either side, making wholesale accusations about an entire race based upon a sample size that could fit comfortably in an SUV is a ridiculous and ignorant leap.

Dumping me in with knee-jerkers is not a fair analysis.

I agree 100% that the generalities were'a flyin'. Me using the term "always" sounds like one too, but man, i'm having a hard time remembering a case that was different.

Jena was flat out wrong on all sides, its not so hard to imagine that a small town in Louisiana still has some heavy duty racial problems.

A "whites only tree"...wrong. Period.

Hanging nooses???...wrong. Period.

Several guys jumping 1 kid???...wrong. Period.

Attempted murder charges???...wrong. Period.

Anyways, i cant & wont be labeled a "closet racist" or any other kind of racist for that matter. Not that you did, but some here feel that if someone disagrees with them, that they are a bunch of cowardly racists.

Mr. Laz 09-27-2007 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
So 6 kids being dickheads (and perhaps racists themselves) in Norfolk should overrule any other racist tendencies in our countries??

oh please .... if those 6 kids were white, and the victim was Black,the whole country would be freaking out.

Donger 09-27-2007 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
So 6 kids being dickheads (and perhaps racists themselves) in Norfolk should overrule any other racist tendencies in our countries??

You suffer from significant White Guilt, don't you?

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-27-2007 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free
Anyways, i cant & wont be labeled a "closet racist" or any other kind of racist for that matter. Not that you did, but some here feel that if someone disagrees with them, that they are a bunch of cowardly racists.

I agree with your concern, but when those "some here" extrapolate the actions of a very small number of people as indicative of the actions of an entire race, that's what I have a problem with.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-27-2007 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger
You suffer from significant White Guilt, don't you?

Sorry to burst your bubble, but absolutely not. Deflections aside, and I say again, neither case is right in this case or excusable.

Mr. Kotter 09-27-2007 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|
As time goes on my support for the idea of hate crime designation lessens.

Life experience and active citizenship bring wisdom....to those who seek it. :thumb:


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