Croyle's first year (9 games)
127/224 (57%), 1227, 5.5 avg, 6 TDs, 6 INTs... 69.9 rating

Eli's first year (9 games)
96/192 (48%), 1043, 5.3 avg, 6 TDs, 9 INTs... 55.4 rating

Again, let me remind you. Troy ****ing Aikman went 0-11 in his first 11 starts.

You really can't tell how good a QB can be with just six ****ing games. How about giving him the ****ing benefit of the doubt, and give him a chance? Jesus Christ couldn't even throw the football, becuase the linemen isn't giving him four seconds to throw the goddamned football.

Come on.

Oh snap.

sh#t. Giants need more than a few players rushing.

here come the cowboys

Hate to point this out to you, but Manning is older, and cost them two first round picks and a third rounder.

Croyle cost one third rounder.

Yeah, I'd rather have Croyle. He cost a hell of a lot less, both monetarily and in draft picks. It's not just about comparing the two physically.

Do you think that the Pats would choose a 29 year old CB who is just a tick better than a 24 year old, when the 29 year old will also command a much larger salary?

Not 'already better', but saying "let me know when Brodie wins a playoff game" is just as dumb as saying Croyle is without a doubt better than Eli.

I think the point is that Croyle's potential of throwing ~20 TDs and ~20 INTs with about 3,000 yard passing and a rating of 75 is pretty good. That's what Eli's done each of his first 4 years.

What's wrong with that statement?

I'm not even remotely looking at what they gave up for him...but hey you can hope he'll be good. I don't think he's a "tick" below either, right now that's a gap.

I don't see it with Croyle, I see a guy who's rail thin that can't stay on the field.

Fa-vah-ra's first pass in the NFL was an INT returned for a touchdown.

FAX

At any rate, Cowboys 14-7.

I'll be surprised if he stays healthy enough to play enough games to get those stats.

They just highlighted the Chiefs inability to win a playoff game....

Thanks for rubbing it in, Fox.

WOHOO 14 yrs baby! I hope Carl saw that.

And with the second-longest number of years since a playoff win: Your Kansas City Chiefs. Ouch.

Nice catch.