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bringbackmarty 04-11-2008 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 4678527)
I know I will get torched for this but here goes.....

Screw taking Ryan in the 1st.

*IF* Long or Dorsey are not available with our pick, I honestly believe we should trade down 1sts and pick up Clady plus get another 2nd and 3rd in the process. With that we should be able to address several concerns.

I am betting that Talib's stock took a hit with getting lit up 3 times for smoking weed. We will need a replacement for Law and someone to look forward to when Surtain hits the wall this or next season. I am betting he will be available in the 2nd when we go to pick.

If Talib is gone then we still have a shot at Porter.

Last but not least.....

Also, if Colt Brennan is available when we go to pick in the 4th round.... we DAMN well better pick him up.
omfg

bringbackmarty 04-11-2008 08:34 AM
It depends on who is there, who wants to trade and what they are offering.
Nobody wants to trade anything decent, J. Long, Dorsey gone, We have little use for Mcfadden at this point. We have Larry Johnson and we couldn't block for shit with him back there, so unless......

My guess is that Dorsey and Ellis are two candidates for the "Big Slide", Ryan gets drafted by Atlanta, we take Clady with Dorsey or Ellis on the board. Probably wrong about this. Miami Drafts J. Long, STL C. Long. Oakland takes Dorsey, Mcfaddn, or trades down. We are stuck with ellis or dorsey, and we take clady.

The Rick 04-11-2008 08:53 AM
You know, it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing to have two young, good quarterbacks if Ryan is there and the staff thinks he's worthy of the pick. Better than pinning all hopes on Croyle and him not living up to them. Competition could make both better.

El Jefe 04-11-2008 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 4678016)
Dude, haven't you heard Croyle has a strong arm? Apparently that's all you need to succeed in the NFL according to some on here.
LMAO.

El Jefe 04-11-2008 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 4678129)
I see the point. There's no way he would remain intact behind this Oline this year. Let Croyle get shitbeat, exit about Week 2. Let Huard come in and take his lumps.

Let Ryan take over fully in 2009 with an upgraded line.

Oh man ROFL, that is rich.

Brock 04-11-2008 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 4678009)
Give me a fuckIN break LMAO, already proclaiming him a SB QB before even playing a down in the NFL
It's almost as funny as you claiming that you are good at evaluating quarterbacks because you're a noted interweb quarterback genius, because you always thought trading for Trent Green was a smart move. Even though everybody else has Ryan as a first rounder and Croyle wasn't drafted until the third, you claim they're the same thing. You're good for a laugh your own self.

CosmicPal 04-11-2008 10:08 AM
I can tell you this right now, and I've said it before- the Chiefs won't draft Ryan. There's one simple reason why: Peterson's ego will get in the way. He drafted Croyle last year and he knows if he drafts Ryan with the first pick, then he's admitting to everyone he made a mistake with Croyle. The last thing Peterson wants to admit, is that he made a mistake.

Sure-Oz 04-11-2008 10:10 AM
Croyle wasn't a 1st rounder anyway so i dont think it would be that big of a deal to draft Ryan

Brock 04-11-2008 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by CosmicPal (Post 4678917)
I can tell you this right now, and I've said it before- the Chiefs won't draft Ryan. There's one simple reason why: Peterson's ego will get in the way. He drafted Croyle last year and he knows if he drafts Ryan with the first pick, then he's admitting to everyone he made a mistake with Ryan. The last thing Peterson wants to admit, is that he made a mistake.
???

Upgrading a position is not a mistake.

eazyb81 04-11-2008 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 4678894)
It's almost as funny as you claiming that you are good at evaluating quarterbacks because you're a noted interweb quarterback genius, because you always thought trading for Trent Green was a smart move. Even though everybody else has Ryan as a first rounder and Croyle wasn't drafted until the third, you claim they're the same thing. You're good for a laugh your own self.
ROFL

CosmicPal 04-11-2008 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz;
Croyle wasn't a 1st rounder anyway so i dont think it would be that big of a deal to draft Ryan
Croyle was taken in the 2nd round which commands a high salary. I didn't say he was a first rounder.

Peterson isn't George Steinbrenner, and he's not interested in having 2 quarterbacks: one taken in the 2nd round, and the other taken in the 1st round. That's way too much for Peterson and his cheap bank.

I may be wrong, and the only way I'm wrong is if they saw something they very much liked in Ryan and feel he is worth the 1st pick on their draft board.

But, knowing Peterson's ego and his stingy wallet- I don't see him having two costly QB's on the same staff- one of them being only a year older than the other.

eazyb81 04-11-2008 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by CosmicPal (Post 4678930)
Croyle was taken in the 2nd round which commands a high salary. I didn't say he was a first rounder.
Croyle was taken in the 3rd round, and it was in 2006, not last year.

CosmicPal 04-11-2008 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by eazyb81;
Croyle was taken in the 3rd round, and it was in 2006, not last year.
:doh!:

You're absolutely right! Dammit. Ugggh....Okay folks, well that blows my whole argument. :D

More coffee for me!!

shaneo69 04-11-2008 10:25 AM
Don Banks of SI: "At least one league insider predicted to me that if the Chiefs take Ryan instead of an offensive tackle, Peterson and Edwards will both wind up getting fired sooner rather than later."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ml?eref=si_nfl


PLEASE TAKE MATT RYAN!!

NUMBER7 04-11-2008 10:54 AM
Matt Ryan's agent is Condon? If he does go in the first round as planned it is going to take big bucks to sign him. Is Hunt ready to pony up with the big boys?


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