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Brock 05-20-2008 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4760643)
If the owners wanna do something the first thing they need to do is fix the sharing so there isn't a have and have not system in the cap. If the cap keeps going up eventually you'll have 10 teams right on it and everyone else way under it..

The Chiefs can't spend with the Cowboys.


It's already that way.

Brock 05-20-2008 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pikesome (Post 4760536)
At this point Dorsey ain't worth what he's going to get paid.

The chance Dorsey isn't worth a 10th of what he'll get is not small. Being a first round pick doesn't mean he'll be great.

This is the way it is. Deal with it.

Mecca 05-20-2008 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 4760669)
It's already that way.

Pretty much, that's why several teams are bitching, I know people were making fun of Ralph Wilson in that other thread but you know the Chiefs are alot closer to him than say the Redskins.

This getting done properly is essential to the future of the Chiefs, if it stays like it is now they will become a have not team.

Basileus777 05-20-2008 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4760678)
Pretty much, that's why several teams are bitching, I know people were making fun of Ralph Wilson in that other thread but you know the Chiefs are alot closer to him than say the Redskins.

This getting done properly is essential to the future of the Chiefs, if it stays like it is now they will become a have not team.

Yep, but thats why we should hope the owners, and not the players union get their way.

el borracho 05-20-2008 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4760643)
If the owners wanna do something the first thing they need to do is fix the sharing so there isn't a have and have not system in the cap. If the cap keeps going up eventually you'll have 10 teams right on it and everyone else way under it..

The Chiefs can't spend with the Cowboys.

I'm not sure that is the case. Typically, the Chiefs are right at the cap. Also, I'm 85% sure I have read that all NFL teams must spend some specified minimum percentage of the cap. Is this not true?

the Talking Can 05-20-2008 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 4760700)
all NFL teams must spend some specified minimum percentage of the cap. Is this not true?

yes

Mecca 05-20-2008 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 4760700)
I'm not sure that is the case. Typically, the Chiefs are right at the cap. Also, I'm 85% sure I have read that all NFL teams must spend some specified minimum percentage of the cap. Is this not true?

Yes there is a floor, but you can see a stark difference in how the Chiefs do business and how the Cowboys do it.

el borracho 05-20-2008 10:03 PM

Sure it is different but if I am not mistaken Carl has historically had the Chiefs near the cap and often over the cap. It is only the last two years that the Chiefs have been well under the cap. I don't see ownership as cheap; I see Carl as foolish with the money. Really take a moment and think about Hicks' last contract or any of the old CBs we have bought in free-agency since Carter and Hasty departed. For all the talk of being a tough SOB negotiator Carl has gotten the shaft on a lot of signings.

jjchieffan 05-21-2008 05:56 PM

I have a question on this topic. In this story on nfl.com, it said, "The Falcons' haste in finalizing the deal with Ryan received a boost when word leaked the NFL owners, who met Tuesday in Atlanta, were about to opt out of a labor deal with the players' union in 2011. Before the owners' unanimous vote, the deal could not have gone through 2013.

The Falcons and Ryan's agent, Tom Condon, already had agreed on six years as the basis for their deal, and to make that happen they needed to complete the negotiations by Tuesday.

"We couldn't have gotten a six-year contract if we didn't get this deal done by 4 today," Blank said." So what does that mean for the rest of the nfl teams?

Coogs 05-22-2008 11:42 AM

How in the world are the Falcons going to sign all of the rest of their draft picks? Just the pro rated portion of his signing bonus is right at 5.8 million a year. And from an ESPN article, I got these figures on what teams salary caps for rookies are. That includes all drafted rookies and all free agent rookies that are signed. Chiefs are Number one in cap space this season and Falcons were number two, but my goodness...

KC 12(picks) $8,221,790
ATL 11(picks) $7,918,670

Brock 05-22-2008 11:43 AM

The salary cap is meaningless.

Coogs 05-22-2008 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 4763139)
The salary cap is meaningless.

Apparently! :shrug:

cadmonkey 05-22-2008 11:53 AM

I really feel that there should be a Rookie Salary Cap to handle this crap. I understand why verteran players are getting so upset with these rookie contracts. I mean they haven't proven shit to anyone, and if they want a huge contract they should earn it.

Buehler445 05-22-2008 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cadmonkey (Post 4763147)
I really feel that there should be a Rookie Salary Cap to handle this crap. I understand why verteran players are getting so upset with these rookie contracts. I mean they haven't proven shit to anyone, and if they want a huge contract they should earn it.

Agreed. Even if he is medocre, he is vastly overpaid. Depending on where the cap goes from here, it could be terribly crippling if he busts.

Easy 6 05-22-2008 02:46 PM

Its really hard to believe that a rookie contract cap hasnt been implemented yet, this is reeruned.


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